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basketcase

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No, by Netanyahu.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...ion-state-law-controversy-explained-1.6344237

What choice have Israeli Arabs had about this Jewish state basic law?
You should explain to Israeli Arabs that they shouldn't want to be Israelis. Seems they keep making their choices but in your racist elitism and obsessive hatred of Israel you just don't care what Palestinians have to say (just like you telling them that the solution is One State even though Palestinians hate the idea).
 

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You tell me. It is the PA that is operating Apartheid rules by allowing Israeli Arabs full rights while denying them to Israeli Jews. Of course you never blame Arabs for their choices.
Israel is the occupying power in the West Bank and Gaza.
They are the ones responsible for apartheid, not those they are occupying.

Separate laws, schools, social services, roads and rights are all implemented by the Israeli occupation.
They are responsible for the apartheid you agree is happening.


In PA controlled areas of the West Bank, apartheid is implemented because .
 

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You should explain to Israeli Arabs that they shouldn't want to be Israelis.
No, this is your colonial idea that you want them to believe, not mine.
I'm sure you're already trolling other sites where you're pushing that line, no need for me to step in on your handiwork.

I'm all for telling Israeli Arabs and Palestinians that they should become Israeli with equal rights.
That's what I'd tell them.


In PA controlled areas of the West Bank, apartheid is implemented because .
 

basketcase

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No, this is your colonial idea that you want them to believe, not mine.....
It's colonial to allow people the chance to live in the country of their choice? Wow you are fucked.

I'm all for telling Israeli Arabs and Palestinians that they should become Israeli with equal rights.
Again that self determination thing. West Bank, Gaza, and foreign Palestinians overwhelmingly DON'T WANT to be Israelis but again your colonial racism has you thinking you know what they need.

And why are you so afraid to discuss the purely religious discrimination under the PA?
 

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It's colonial to allow people the chance to live in the country of their choice?
So you claim Palestinians have 'chosen' to become Israeli Arabs so therefore its not a big deal that Israel takes away their full rights to be Israeli Arabs?
Israeli Arabs didn't 'choose' to have the right to self determination taken from them.
 

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So you claim Palestinians have 'chosen' to become Israeli Arabs so therefore its not a big deal that Israel takes away their full rights to be Israeli Arabs?
Israeli Arabs didn't 'choose' to have the right to self determination taken from them.
You should really check what self-determination means. Just another case where you completely ignore what Arabs want when it doesn't fit in with your racist world view.
 

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It means that even if Palestinians have chosen to become Israeli Arabs they won't ever have the same rights as Israeli Jews.
It means apartheid.
Your argument is getting stupidly circular. They made their choice but you say they don't have the right to make their own choice.

Sadly just another case where you think Arabs are beneath you.
 

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Your argument is getting stupidly circular. They made their choice but you say they don't have the right to make their own choice.
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They made their choice and then Israel took that choice away from them.

If Israel is a democracy, it’s a state of all its citizens. There is no democracy that isn’t a state of all its citizens. From America to Germany, all are states of all their citizens. If they weren’t, to whom would they belong? Only to their privileged citizens. There’s no such thing as a democracy that belongs only to the privileged of one nationality.

The state belongs to everyone. A regime that segregates and discriminates is called apartheid. There is no other name. The fact that Azmi Bishara, who fled Israel amid suspicions he supplied information to Hezbollah, was the first to draw attention to this obvious truth doesn’t detract from it one iota. A state of all its citizens isn’t “the slogan of the enemy,” as the new foreign minister put it. It’s the heart and soul of democracy.
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-apartheid-under-the-cover-of-a-jewish-state-1.7402080
 

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They made their choice and then Israel took that choice away from them....
That would mean Israel revoked their citizenship. That is bullshit.

Sorry but Israeli Arabs are Israeli Arabs because they want to be Israeli Arabs and they will continue to be Israeli Arabs because that is what they overwhelmingly want. But in your elitism you refuse to listen to what Arabs want unless you think it justifies your obsession.
 

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That would mean Israel revoked their citizenship. That is bullshit.
I agree, its bullshit that Israel has declared that Israeli Arabs are second class citizens who don't deserve the right to self determination.
'Cuz that's apartheid.
 

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I agree, its bullshit that Israel has declared that Israeli Arabs are second class citizens who don't deserve the right to self determination.
'Cuz that's apartheid.
Keep on with your stupidly circular arguments.

Why won't you accept the choice of Arab Israelis to be Israelis? Seems your version of self determination only applies when other people do what YOU want.
 

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Why won't you accept the choice of Arab Israelis to be Israelis? .
I'm fine with their choice, this is just your latest straw man claim.
The only problem is that despite the 'choice', Israel has now taken that 'right' away from Israeli Arabs.
Another act of apartheid you totally support.
 
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