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And why they prefer to live in a Jewish democratic state.


British Labor party shadow Foreign Secretary Emily Thornberry, speaking at the British House of Commons (May 13, 2019), accused Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of taking steps that pushed Israel “away from democracy, and away from the rule of law while also attacking the freedoms of Israeli Arabs…” It is apparent that Ms. Thornberry’s accusations against Prime Minister Netanyahu have to do with the Jeremy Corbyn led Labor party policies rather than with reality on the ground. This reporter has just traveled throughout Israel and experienced a different reality insofar as Arab-Israeli citizens are concerned. Ms. Thornberry should do likewise and travel throughout Israel before making a judgement about Arab freedoms in Israel.

In the last Israeli parliamentary elections on April 9, 2019, the combined Arab parties, Hadash-Ta’al and Ra’am-Balad lost 3 seats (mandates) in the Knesset. Ahmed Tibi and Ayman Odeh decided to run on an independent list and garnered 6 seats while the more radical and Islamist Ra’am-Balad party, led by Mansour Abbas received 4 (it barely passed the threshold of 3.25% of the vote), down from 13 in the previous 2015 elections when the two parties ran on a combined list. These results reflect the disenchantment of younger Arab-Israelis with their Knesset representatives. The Arab Knesset members, in the words of many young Arab voters, care more about the welfare of Palestinian Arabs than about their own constituents, who seek to integrate into Israeli society and partake in Israel’s prosperous economy.

The New York Times, with its anti-Netanyahu bias, reported (by David Halbfinger) on March 20, 2019 that according to a new poll from the University of Maryland suggested that Mr. Netanyahu’s racial provocations may spur turnout among Arab voters motivated to usher him out of office. Exactly the opposite has happened. The Arab turnout dropped by 15% from 64% in 2015 to 49% in the recent election. Netanyahu and his Likud party garnered the most votes, and he is more than likely to continue serving as Prime Minister. According to the same New York Times story, the number of Arabs identifying themselves as Israeli first, rather than Arab, Palestinian, or Muslim has been steadily ticking up to 17% up from 12% in 2011, but this does not account for those young Arabs who find it socially dangerous to identify themselves as Israeli first.

Whether at the Jaffa Port or at the Dead Sea Resorts, while traveling throughout the country, this reporter witnessed Arab families freely mixing with Israeli families and looking indistinguishable were it not for their speaking Arabic. At the Jaffa Port on a Friday night (the Muslim Shabbat), restaurants were packed with Arab dinners along with Israelis. At the long boardwalk, Arab women paraded their finest dresses, and fashionable jeans worn by younger Arab women. The ice cream parlor owned by Arabs was a mecca for Jewish Israeli customers as was the famed Abulafia restaurant. In the very Jewish northern Tel Aviv boardwalk, Arab-Israeli women with strollers sat at the outdoor tables of the expensive restaurants, exhibiting their middle-class status, and their independence.

Along the resort town of Eilat’s long and attractive boardwalk, sandwiched between luxury hotels and the Red Sea, Arab families vacationing in town, walked along with Israelis during Israel’s Independence Day celebration. Not even a single incident or a frown, nasty look, or an insult was levelled at the Arab vacationers. Some (women) who stood out by their head cover, proudly identifying themselves as Muslim, were treated with respect, and it was clear that the Arab families enjoyed their time as much as the Israelis. What struck this reporter most is the fact that many Arabs managed the catering at the hotels both in the Dead Sea and Eilat, as they were supervising Jewish-Israeli employees. I never heard a complaint from Israelis about that. It is now so common that nobody cares about the religious or ethnic identity of a person. Israeli Jews and Arabs young, urban, and educated, share the same westernized culture. They attend the same clubs and show up at the same concerts. Israeli universities give preference to Arab students in their admission policies. Like the U.S., Israel’s Affirmative Action is designed to benefit the Arab minority. Arab professors teach in virtually all major Israeli universities.

Should you wander into a pharmacy, almost anywhere in Israel, you are likely to be serviced by an Arab pharmacist, in hospitals Arab physicians abound. Arab-Israelis have a head-start over Jewish-Israeli youth in that they are not obligated to serve in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). They can however volunteer, and more and more Arab (Muslim) youth are doing so, realizing that it is a clear path into Israeli society and economy. This reporter encountered Arab-Israelis as well as Palestinian-Arabs as workers, managers, and employers throughout Israel, and no one I spoke to complained about discrimination.


As Tel Aviv is gripped by the Eurovision Song Contest it is hosting this year, viewed by over 300 million throughout Europe and beyond, cameras focus on Lucy Ayoub, an Israeli Arab born in Haifa, who proudly enlisted in the IDF, and served two years as a flight simulator instructor in the Air Force. Lucy graduated from Tel Aviv University and joined the Israel Broadcasting Corporation (IBC). She hosts a weekly cultural program on the radio, and the Culture Club on Kan 11 TV channel, an IBC station. The media however, would rather cover a Muslim-Arab agitator like former Knesset Member Hanin Zoabi, who leads Israeli-Arabs in demonstrations against recruitment of Arabs into the IDF, including Arabs from the Christian community.

Politically, Israeli Arabs are the only Arab community in the Middle East that can influence the make-up of the nation’s government with their votes. By way of contrast, in neighboring Arab states, public opinion, not to mention their votes, holds little sway over government decisions. While Arab-Israelis may be quite unhappy with their current Knesset representatives, they are nevertheless aware of the fact that in the State of Israel they, and other minorities have a paradise of democracy, a delightful exception among Middle East and Palestinian dictatorships.

Ms. Thornberry’s unsubstantiated allegation that PM Netanyahu is “attacking the freedoms of Israeli Arabs” is negated by the realities visible to everyone visiting Israel without a political agenda who cares to speak the truth. Arab-Israelis enjoy the same freedoms Israeli Jews have. Arab-Israelis relish their religious freedom, equality under the law, and human and civil rights Israeli democracy affords them. While they may resent the fact that Israel enshrines Jewish symbols, they must be cognizant of the fact that Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish people. One such Jewish state compared to 22 Arab Muslim states. And yet, given a choice, every poll has shown that the most Arab-Israelis prefer to live in a Jewish democratic state rather than in the neighboring Arab-Muslim states, including being subjects of the Palestinian Authority.


https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/273825/arab-israelis-today-joseph-puder
 

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Why some Palestinians are backing Trump’s peace push
A growing number of Palestinians want a ‘one state, equal rights’ model and think Trump may unwittingly pave the way for it.




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Some prominent Palestinian activists and politicians are quietly rooting for Jared Kushner as he prepares to unveil the first part of his Middle East peace plan next month.

That's not because they think the plan will resolve their decades-long conflict with Israel. It’s because they hope it will hasten the onset of a “one-state” solution they are coming to support.


The push for one state with equal rights for Palestinians and Israelis has gained steam in recent years as the Trump administration has been preparing its peace plan, which Kushner, President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and adviser, is expected to unveil at a June conference in Bahrain. Kushner has signaled that his plan abandons America’s decades-long official support for a “two-state solution,” in which the Palestinians are given a sovereign nation of their own.

Many Palestinian supporters of a single state — whose ranks now include Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.), a Palestinian-American — wouldn’t necessarily mind seeing the creation of two independent, full-fledged states in the region. But they don’t consider that outcome realistic, nor do they believe that the international community ever truly backed the idea.

Some argue that due to Israeli actions on the ground, including the construction of settlements in the West Bank, Palestinians already live in a de facto single state, but one in which they lack the same rights as Israeli Jews. Many liken the situation to apartheid South Africa and say Trump’s policies are simply exposing that reality.

“Trump is now not only burying the two-state solution, which was not viable anyway, but he’s gladly dancing on its grave, thus forcing people to end their denial,” said Yousef Munayyer, executive director of the U.S. Campaign for Palestinian Rights. “It’s important for us to respond very clearly that we need equal rights in one state.”

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Surrendering the fight for two states could mean short-term pain for Palestinians, one-staters admit. But they hope to draw the world’s attention over time to the implications of one Israeli state in which Palestinians lack full voting and freedom-of-movement rights, bolstering their demands for one state with equal rights for all citizens.
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The push for one state with equal rights is also fueled by a series of other strongly pro-Israel actions by Trump, including recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel despite its contested status. If the Palestinians are not given sovereignty, an Israel that absorbs millions of them indefinitely may ultimately be forced to choose between its democratic character and its Jewish identity — especially if demographic growth favors Palestinians.

“I don’t think it’s the intention of Mr. Trump to help Palestinians, but indirectly I think it is [helping]," said Hamada Jaber of the One State Foundation, an organization that launched last year to argue that a single state is actually in the Palestinians’ interest. “There is no two-state solution. It’s pushing us as Palestinians to think about an alternative.”

The growing calls among far left Palestinians and other advocates for “one state, equal rights” comes as Israeli and Palestinian officials acknowledge that the decades-long efforts at achieving a political solution has stalled, and that the two sides’ respective positions on issues like borders, the status of Jerusalem, and the fate of Palestinian refugees may be irreconcilable.

Even so, many close observers of the conflict say, a one state, equal rights approach may prove an even more impractical goal.

“It’s not a real-world solution,” insisted Jeremy Ben-Ami, head of J Street, the left-leaning Jewish advocacy group that supports the two-state model. “It may sound nice in an academic hall. In a real world, this is not going to become one democratic state with equal rights.”

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Israeli politicians won’t stand for an outcome in which they could lose political power, critics of the one-state idea say. Then there’s the fact that Palestinian leaders still say they want two separate states. Tensions between Palestinians and Israelis run so deep, some two-staters argue, that they could not co-exist peacefully under one government.

Israeli leaders have long blamed the lack of progress in past peace talks on Palestinians, saying they’ve repeatedly refused generous offers that would have helped them create their own state while supporting violence against Israel. The militant group Hamas’ control of the Gaza Strip — from which it launches attacks on Israeli soldiers and civilians — hasn’t helped inspire Israeli confidence in a potential peace deal.

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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has offered only tepid support for the creation of a Palestinian state. | Gali Tibbon/Pool Photo via AP
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has offered only tepid support for the creation of a Palestinian state in the past, and more recently, he’s made statements that seem aimed at derailing that possibility, including reportedly telling Trump that he will not evacuate “a single person” from any West Bank settlements and saying that he might move to annex parts of that territory. The conservative Israeli’s recent reelection led to headlines such as, “Netanyahu won. The two-state solution lost.”

But Israelis say they’re not worried the Trump-Kushner plan will hasten a one-state, equal rights model. “We have confidence in the Trump administration to try and present a plan that will enable Israel to maintain its security interests and on the other hand help improve the life of Palestinians and put an end to this conflict,” an Israeli official told POLITICO.

Officials with the Palestinian Authority did not respond to requests for comment, but they have repeatedly said the Trump administration is not an honest broker. The White House did not provide a comment for this story.

Meanwhile, there are signs that even people traditionally linked closely to the pro-Israel camp are worried about what the Kushner-led proposal will contain.

For instance, Rob Satloff, executive director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, has urged the administration to scrap the proposal, arguing it could spur a chain of events that leads to adverse long-term repercussions for Israel’s global standing.

In an interview, Satloff told POLITICO: “It would be a shame if any American initiative advances the idea or contributes to the idea that a single binational state is the solution for the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians.”

Satloff’s stance has drawn attention across Washington. "It's an interesting world in which people such as Rob Satloff urge the administration not to release a plan that almost certainly will be heavily tilted toward Israel's position and others more sympathetic to the Palestinian cause are far less alarmed," noted Rob Malley, president of the International Crisis Group.

Malley agreed that the one-state, equal-rights idea is gaining traction in various corners, especially younger Palestinians who seek a more "rights-based discourse.” “I don’t want to overstate it, but there is a shift,” he said.

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One prominent supporter is Rashida Tlaib, a newly elected Democratic congresswoman from Michigan who is of Palestinian descent.


Tlaib has been accused of anti-Semitism for some of her remarks, a charge she vehemently denies, and she declined to comment for this story. But in comments last year to In These Times, a progressive publication, Tlaib compared the push for one-state, equal rights to the American civil rights movement.

“It has to be one state,” she said. “Separate but equal does not work.”

Other Middle East observers are not confident that the one state, equal rights camp will prevail.

“The idea that you’ll end up with apartheid state and it’ll eventually raise sympathy: This is too linear a view of history,” said Ghaith al-Omari, a former Palestinian Authority official now with the Washington Institute. He and others stressed that they’re trying to keep an open mind about the Trump peace proposal given that very few people know its contents.

Early on in his presidency, Trump casually tossed aside decades of official U.S. support for a two-state solution, declaring that he “can live with either” a one-state or two-state solution so long as Palestinians and Israelis agree.

More recently, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, when pressed by lawmakers, declined to say if the U.S. still supports a two-state solution. Kushner, meanwhile, said the peace proposal will not include the phrase “two-state solution.”

“If you say ‘two-state’, it means one thing to the Israelis, it means one thing to the Palestinians,” Kushner said during an event hosted by Satloff and the Washington Institute. “We said, ‘You know, let’s just not say it. Let’s just say, let’s work on the details of what this means’.”

From what little Kushner and his team have revealed, the specifics appear focused more on economic matters than political rights. The first phase of the plan is expected to be rolled out in Bahrain in late June at an “economic workshop” that will convene business leaders among others to discuss ways to help improve Palestinian lives materially.

Trump administration officials say the plan will also cover political issues, including sensitive topics such as borders, but have not offered a time frame for revealing those details.

The release of the plan, which at one point was around 50 pages, according to a Western diplomat, has been delayed several times.

During that time period, Trump has taken several steps that appear to undercut Palestinian hopes for their own state while pressuring them to come to the negotiating table, including by declaring Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, a cutoff of financial aid to the Palestinians, and recognition of sovereignty over the Golan Heights.

Trump administration officials have also not contested Netanyahu’s recent suggestion that he will move to annex parts of the West Bank, home to millions of Palestinians.

Palestinian activists say that move would clearly signal that Israeli leaders have given up on a Palestinian state.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/21/trump-israel-palestinians-1336621
 

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not interested in the opinions of a Hamas aplogist
 

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Still pushing that One State model rejected by the UN and neither Palestinians nor Israelis want? How democratic of you.

Do you have any comment on the PA rejecting the possibility of a peace deal that they haven't even seen and refusing to take discuss economic opportunities for their people simply because they fear what Trump may suggest?

(or comment on Hamas refusesing to be involved in any peace talks)
 

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Still pushing that One State model rejected by the UN and neither Palestinians nor Israelis want? How democratic of you.
Funny how you call equal rights 'undemocratic'.
That's pretty sad that in your view Israel can only exist if Palestinians living under Israeli rule don't get basic human rights.
Your model is apartheid.
 

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Funny how you call equal rights 'undemocratic'.....
When Hamas, the PA, the Palestinian people, and the Israeli people all say that they don't want a one state solution it sure isn't democratic. Also worth mentioning that the UN is against the idea.


That's pretty sad that you stoop to obvious lies about other people when you have no basis for your argument other than base racism.
 

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When Hamas, the PA, the Palestinian people, and the Israeli people all say that they don't want a one state solution it sure isn't democratic. Also worth mentioning that the UN is against the idea.


That's pretty sad that you stoop to obvious lies about other people when you have no basis for your argument other than base racism.


One-state solution gains ground as Palestinians battle for equal rights
Belief in two-state solution crumbles as up to 600,000 Israeli settlers remain on occupied land
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...round-as-palestinians-battle-for-equal-rights
 

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Not only is it rejected by Hamas, the PA, Israel, and the UN...

March 2019
Q43) There is an internal Palestinian discussion regarding the best permanent solution to the conflict with Israel: is the two-state solution? or the one state solution? or some other solution? If it were up to you, which of those would you choose?

1) The one-state solution in all the areas of Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip whereby the rights of Palestinians and Israeli Jews would be equal in all dimensions
17.3%

https://www.pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll 71 English full text March 2019.pdf

Sorry but the Palestinian people clearly reject the solution you want to impose on them with your racist elitism and in your anti-semitism you will never criticize the Palestinians for hating your plan.


p.s. They didn't ask it this time but their Dec. 2018 poll had a mere 43% of people supporting "armed attacks against Israeli civilians inside Israel" (their words, not mine). No need for you to criticize that either.
 

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Not only is it rejected by Hamas, the PA, Israel, and the UN...

March 2019
Q43) There is an internal Palestinian discussion regarding the best permanent solution to the conflict with Israel: is the two-state solution? or the one state solution? or some other solution? If it were up to you, which of those would you choose?

1) The one-state solution in all the areas of Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip whereby the rights of Palestinians and Israeli Jews would be equal in all dimensions
17.3%

https://www.pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll 71 English full text March 2019.pdf

Sorry but the Palestinian people clearly reject the solution you want to impose on them with your racist elitism and in your anti-semitism you will never criticize the Palestinians for hating your plan.


p.s. They didn't ask it this time but their Dec. 2018 poll had a mere 43% of people supporting "armed attacks against Israeli civilians inside Israel" (their words, not mine). No need for you to criticize that either.
It also says this:
48% support and 50% oppose the two-state solution; but 58% believe that the two state solution is not practical or feasible due to settlement expansion
The two state solution is long dead, the question is just whether the existing one state solution will always be apartheid or whether it will evolve to equal rights.
Though we know you are against equal rights.
 

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It also says this:....
So you don't want to discuss your racist elitism where you want to force the people there into a path they detest. Nice.

Less that 20% of Palestinians support your bullshit. You need to either admit that it is a non-starter or at least start criticizing Palestinians for hating your idea.
 

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So you don't want to discuss your racist elitism where you want to force the people there into a path they detest. Nice.

Less that 20% of Palestinians support your bullshit. You need to either admit that it is a non-starter or at least start criticizing Palestinians for hating your idea.
The one state solution is already there, its just the apartheid one state solution.
There is no way left for a two state solution so the options are down to apartheid or equal rights.

I know you choose apartheid, but its a poor choice and won't last.
 

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And Hamas' leader in Gaza just made some admissions you won't like.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-leader-thanks-iran-for-long-range-rockets-threatens-tel-aviv/

1) They intentionally targeted and Israeli city with their rockets (and brag about it)
2) Iran supplied them with the war crime rockets

I know you won't criticize them since you think it is a Palestinian right to commit war crimes.
And Israel destroyed Al-Araqeeb for the 145th time, not much different.

Both sides do stupid things which seem to be only escalating.

What do you see as the endgame here?
Ethnic cleansing the rest of Palestine?
Full on apartheid?
Putting the rest of Palestinians in the Gaza Ghetto?
 

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And Israel ...
So once again Hamas admits to war crimes but you still want to pretend it's Israel's fault. You also don't want to discuss that only 17.3% of Palestinians support the idea your racist elitism wants to force on them.

What do you see as the endgame here?
Ethnic cleansing the rest of Palestine?
Full on apartheid?
That is exactly Hamas' endgame and you stay silent about them.


p.s. The end game should have always been a two state peace like the UN intended and still supports. Sadly the Palestinian leadership hasn't come around to the idea yet and your Hamas is still violently opposed to the concept of permanent peace.
 

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The end game should have always been a two state peace like the UN intended and still supports. Sadly the Palestinian leadership hasn't come around to the idea yet and your Hamas is still violently opposed to the concept of permanent peace.
Netanyahu, and the country you back, have killed the two state solution.
There is not enough continguous land left and Israel has repeatedly stated that they will never give up a metre nor even allow a Palestinian state to exist.

That leaves you with the one state solution.
Your plan died a long time ago.
 

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http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=27724

27% of Israeli Arabs voted for Zionist parties
in recent elections


PA slander: Israel is an "apartheid state";
but Israeli Arabs experience real democracy

In Israel's recent elections:
12 Israeli Arabs elected to Israel's Parliament
50% of Israeli Arabs chose to vote
At least 112,000 Israeli Arabs (27%) voted for Zionist parties in exclusively Arab cities and towns:
35,783 Israeli-Arabs voted for Meretz
33,453 Israeli-Arabs voted for Blue and White
9,404 Israeli-Arabs voted for Likud
8,268 Israeli-Arabs voted for Shas
6,516 Israeli-Arabs voted for Yisrael Beiteinu
By Maurice Hirsch, Adv. and Itamar Marcus

Now that the newly elected Israeli Parliament has been dissolved due to Prime Minister Netanyahu's inability to form a government, Israeli Arabs will again be experiencing the Israeli democracy in the next elections, which are set for September 17, 2019.

The next elections will once again prove wrong the Palestinian Authority's claim that Israel is an "apartheid state" as Israeli Arabs will be able to exercise their voting rights on equal terms with Israel's Jewish citizens.

Palestinian Media Watch has taken a look at the statistics from the recent Israeli elections and they prove the existence of a thriving Israeli democracy.

Responding to the results of the Israeli elections held in April this year, PLO Chief Negotiator and Fatah Central Committee member Saeb Erekat, said that the vote shows Israel has a "policy of apartheid and racial segregation":

"The preliminary results of the Israeli elections have clearly showed that the Israeli voters have voted to keep the situation as it is. They have voted to continue the occupation. They have voted to continue the apartheid and the racial segregation. In reality, the competition during the election campaign was over who on the Israeli side could continue the status quo, the policy of apartheid and racial segregation, but at a reduced cost."
[Official PA TV News, April 10, 2019]

A comparison focusing on the rights of Israeli Arabs compared to the rights of Black South Africans under the Apartheid regime shows that the reality could not be more different.

 

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http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=27724

27% of Israeli Arabs voted for Zionist parties
in recent elections
By that metric Iran isn't anti-semitic, since they have had Jewish MP's as well.

Your post misses two of the major notes from the recent election:
1) 'Israeli Arab' vote participation has been declining for years, with calls to boycott the election because of apartheid rule.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/orde...ab-voter-turnout-for-israels-election-plunge/

2) The election was an excellent demonstration of how apartheid rule works there, with Netanyahu's party admitting that they installed video cameras at Israeli Arab polling stations in order to stifle their voting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/10/world/middleeast/netanyahu-cameras-arab-voter-turnout.html

That story shows the government actively working to stop the voters of one race.
Sounds like apartheid.

And don't forget this point:
No governing coalition has ever included the Arab parties, and the mere idea is still toxic to most Jewish Israelis.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...-new-election-is-an-opportunity-for-its-arabs
 

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Netanyahu, and the country you back, have killed the two state solution.....
Hamas, the terrorists you back have never wanted any peace other than ethnic cleansing, and a fundamentalist Islamic state.

Of course you always lie about others views when you get exposed. I am quite happy that Netanyahu was unable to form a government and there is a new election.

That leaves you with the one state solution.
So much for your support of the UN, democracy, and human rights. The Palestinians overwhelmingly hate your idea but between you racist demeaning of Arabs and your hatred of Israel you obviously don't care that both sides of the conflict overwhelmingly hate the idea you want to force them into. It is obvious your support for one state is simply because you want Israel eliminated.

Again, only 17.3% of Palestinians support one state. How can you pretend to support democracy while ignoring that even the Palestinians hate your stance?
 

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By that metric Iran isn't anti-semitic, since they have had Jewish MP's as well....
You should really read up on Iranian "democracy". Religious minorities are not part of the electorate at large. The vote is divided by religion of the voters and religious minorities are only allowed to vote for the one token representative out of several hundred legislators and therefore can never have any influence. Every higher office in Iran is by law restricted to Shia Muslims who are observant and approved by the religious oligarchs.


But at least you are starting to come to terms with the systematic religious hatred in Iran.
 

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So you don't want to discuss your racist elitism where you want to force the people there into a path they detest. Nice.

Less that 20% of Palestinians support your bullshit. You need to either admit that it is a non-starter or at least start criticizing Palestinians for hating your idea.
So sad that you think the one state solution with equal rights is 'racist elitism'.
Guess that's why you keep backing apartheid and the continuing ethnic cleansing, because your definition of 'racist elitism' means you think apartheid is the best option.
 
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