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basketcase

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Hezbollah is now part of the Lebanese government.
They are part of the state now.
Hezbollah's army isn't. According to the UN, the LAF are the only ones legally allowed to be armed. You know that but since you are incapable of criticizing anyone who hates Israel as obsessively as you do...
 

Frankfooter

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Hezbollah's army isn't. According to the UN, the LAF are the only ones legally allowed to be armed. You know that but since you are incapable of criticizing anyone who hates Israel as obsessively as you do...
I don't know that, go ahead and state the UN resolutions that apply.
And then feel free to tell me why you think that resolution should be obeyed by the countless resolutions on Israel and the occupation can be ignored.
 

basketcase

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I don't know that, go ahead and state the UN resolutions that apply.
And then feel free to tell me why you think that resolution should be obeyed by the countless resolutions on Israel and the occupation can be ignored.
Why are you so desperate to pretend Hezbollah is a legitimate military when the UN clearly says otherwise?

Oh right, your obsessive hatred has you aligning yourself with massive rights abusers and terrorists.

BTW.
-- full implementation of the relevant provisions of the Taif Accords, and of resolutions 1559 (2004) and 1680 (2006), that require the disarmament of all armed groups in Lebanon, so that, pursuant to the Lebanese cabinet decision of 27 July 2006, there will be no weapons or authority in Lebanon other than that of the Lebanese State;
https://www.un.org/press/en/2006/sc8808.doc.htm

Of course you will ignore what the UN says about Hezbollah and instead claim it is Israel'f fault.
 

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Why are you so desperate to pretend Hezbollah is a legitimate military when the UN clearly says otherwise?

Oh right, your obsessive hatred has you aligning yourself with massive rights abusers and terrorists.

BTW.
-- full implementation of the relevant provisions of the Taif Accords, and of resolutions 1559 (2004) and 1680 (2006), that require the disarmament of all armed groups in Lebanon, so that, pursuant to the Lebanese cabinet decision of 27 July 2006, there will be no weapons or authority in Lebanon other than that of the Lebanese State;
https://www.un.org/press/en/2006/sc8808.doc.htm

Of course you will ignore what the UN says about Hezbollah and instead claim it is Israel'f fault.
Lebanon would be crazy to disband Hezbollah's military wing: the 100,000 unguided rockets pointed at Israel is a deterrent to Israel invading Lebanon, or a reapeat of the bombing campaign of 2006. If it weren't for Hezbollah, Israel would still be occupying South Lebanon, and Israel would have invaded much of Lebanon in 2006; instead, they gave the IDF a drubbing they never forgot. If it weren't for Hezbollah, the Assad government would have fallen and the black ISIS flag would be flying over Damascus. Then ISIS would have invaded Lebanon and the weak Lebanese army could not possibly have stopped them. This would have led to the end of 2000 years of Christianity in the Middle-East, that Hezbollah wound up saving. Hezbollah successfully repulsed ISIS in the Qalamoun mountains in the last couple of years; they closely coordinated with the Lebanese Army.

And since when does Israel respect UN Security Council resolutions, especially 242 and 338. UN resolutions have no force of law, especially when it has to do with Israel.
 

Frankfooter

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Why are you so desperate to pretend Hezbollah is a legitimate military when the UN clearly says otherwise?

Oh right, your obsessive hatred has you aligning yourself with massive rights abusers and terrorists.

BTW.
-- full implementation of the relevant provisions of the Taif Accords, and of resolutions 1559 (2004) and 1680 (2006), that require the disarmament of all armed groups in Lebanon, so that, pursuant to the Lebanese cabinet decision of 27 July 2006, there will be no weapons or authority in Lebanon other than that of the Lebanese State;
https://www.un.org/press/en/2006/sc8808.doc.htm

Of course you will ignore what the UN says about Hezbollah and instead claim it is Israel'f fault.
Great, so are you willing to say that all countries absolutely have to obey all UNSC resolutions?
Or are you going to show yourself a total hypocrite by demanding Hezbollah obey but not Israel?
Because, unless you're demanding Israel also obey all UNSC resolutions, then you have no right to complain about Hezbollah.

I assume you will also call for Israel to honour UNSC 2334 and join me in a call for Israel to abandon all settlements, since they are illegal.
https://www.un.org/press/en/2016/sc12657.doc.htm
 

basketcase

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Great, so are you willing to say ...
Just like with those rights organizations, you keep bringing up reasons to attack Israel but refuse to hold you jheroes to the same standard.

The UN says Hezbollah is an illegal army and you keep defending them.
 

basketcase

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Lebanon would be crazy to disband Hezbollah's military wing:...l.
The easiest would be to put those troops and weapons directly under Lebanese government control. Lebanon's actual government and actual army are strongly backed by NATO countries and can more than adequately defend themselves, especially as Israel and the Lebanese government have have shown willingness to work out issues diplomatically.

Of course Hezbollah rockets you are supporting are internationally recognized as war crime weapons and you completely ignore that it was Hezbollah who started the conflict in 2006. If they handed over their weapons to the Lebanese army after Israel withdrew then there would have been no conflict in 2006.


p.s. You also ignore that Syria occupied Lebanon from 1976 until 2005 when the Hezbollah assassination of the Lebanese PM angered the people enough to act.
 

Frankfooter

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The UN says Hezbollah is an illegal army and you keep defending them.
The UN also says that all Israeli settlements are illegal and you keep defending them.
Do you think all UN SC resolutions should be obeyed, or all except those on Israel?
 

Frankfooter

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The easiest would be to put those troops and weapons directly under Lebanese government control. Lebanon's actual government and actual army are strongly backed by NATO countries and can more than adequately defend themselves, especially as Israel and the Lebanese government have have shown willingness to work out issues diplomatically.

Of course Hezbollah rockets you are supporting are internationally recognized as war crime weapons and you completely ignore that it was Hezbollah who started the conflict in 2006. If they handed over their weapons to the Lebanese army after Israel withdrew then there would have been no conflict in 2006.


p.s. You also ignore that Syria occupied Lebanon from 1976 until 2005 when the Hezbollah assassination of the Lebanese PM angered the people enough to act.
The same agencies that report Hezbollah war crimes also report Israeli war crimes that you defend.
You're quite the hypocrite, aren't you?
 

basketcase

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The UN...
...Says Hezbollah's army is illegal. You keep quoting UN subgroups but for some reason you don't want to listen to the actual UNSC. It's just like you refuse to agree with rights groups you rotinely quote when they say Hamas rockets are illegal and target civilians.
 

Frankfooter

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...Says Hezbollah's army is illegal. You keep quoting UN subgroups but for some reason you don't want to listen to the actual UNSC. It's just like you refuse to agree with rights groups you rotinely quote when they say Hamas rockets are illegal and target civilians.
This is just like your selective quoting of HRW and Amnesty reports, where you refuse to accept criticism of Israel by human rights organizations but accept everything they say about Palestinians.
Its just like Phil's terrorism thread, where your particular flavour of Islamaphobia means you make arbitrary rules to ignore HRW, Amnesty and UN SC resolutions critical of Israel.

The UN says all settlements are illegal, just as they say that Hezbollah should disband their army.
But you can't pick and choose, if you support one you have to support them all.
 

Frankfooter

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Says the guy who keeps trying to defend Hamas and Hezbollah despite what the UN and rights groups say.
Where do I defend them?
More nonsense from you.

I call for all parties to be held to the law and charged at the ICC for any war crimes reported by human rights organizations like HRW, Amnesty, B'teselem as well as obeying UN SC resolutions.

Israel should end the occupation, give back the settlements and all Lebanese land they are occupying and Hezbollah should disarm their army.
Which do you think is more likely to happen?
 

basketcase

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Where do I defend them?...
By denying Hamas are corrupt, by denying Hezbollah is an illegitimate military, by claiming Hamas rockets are self defense, .... It's just obvious that you don't like it when either group is criticized simply because you share their hatred of Israel.

You have refused to answer in at least a dozen threads, do you think Hamas rockets are illegal and target civilians or do you think they are legitimate self defense?
 

Frankfooter

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By denying Hamas are corrupt, by denying Hezbollah is an illegitimate military, by claiming Hamas rockets are self defense, .... It's just obvious that you don't like it when either group is criticized simply because you share their hatred of Israel.

You have refused to answer in at least a dozen threads, do you think Hamas rockets are illegal and target civilians or do you think they are legitimate self defense?
Those are not things I've said, basketcase.
You are making shit up again.

Hamas rockets are war crimes like Israeli tank fire at Gaza is a war crime, because they are indiscriminate. Targeting civilians, as Israel does with missiles hitting apartment buildings and snipers shooting civilians is much worse, but still war crimes.

Israel is now killing about 100 times as many civilians, right now they are far worse war criminals than Hamas.
 

basketcase

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Those are not things I've said, basketcase.
You are making shit up again.

Hamas rockets are war crimes like Israeli tank fire at Gaza is a war crime, because they are indiscriminate. ....
Do you think those rockets are illegal and target civilians or do you think they are legitimate self defense? Why do you keep refusing to answer?
 

Frankfooter

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Do you think those rockets are illegal and target civilians or do you think they are legitimate self defense? Why do you keep refusing to answer?
I've answered many times, including in the post you quoted.

Meanwhile you refuse to criticize Israel for the exact same war crimes as Hamas, or criticize Israel for much worse war crimes than Hamas.
Just as you refuse to criticize Israel for killing 100 times as many civilians.
Nor do you criticize Israeli snipers for targeting and killing children.
Nor do you for women, medics or journalists.

Why do you cheer for every Palestinian killed, basketcase?
 

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JERUSALEM – AFTER nearly a year on the job, Hana Mansour Khatib says she is already seeing the impact she can make as the first female judge in Israel's Islamic, or sharia court system. She says she has long witnessed many female plaintiffs remain quiet and instruct a lawyer or male relative to speak on their behalf in the Islamic courts, which handle marriage, divorce and other personal issues for Muslims here.

"But now, I have noticed that when women see me as the judge, they have more confidence to talk and speak up," says Khatib, adding that she also asks the many relatives who often accompany a divorcing couple to court to leave the room "so the parties can talk honestly. I really encourage them to talk and I want to hear what they have to say, especially in these sensitive matters."


In appointing Khatib, Israel joins a growing number of countries with Islamic courts with female judges. Her appointment also is significant here for the Jews and Christians, who, like Muslims, must marry and divorce through their respective religious authorities because civil marriage does not exist in Israel. Jewish and Christian legal authorities remain all male.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...e-reflects-changes-for-israels-arab-community
 

basketcase

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I've answered many times, including in the post you quoted....
Where? Do you think Hamas rockets are illegal and target civilians or do you think they are legitimate self defense? All you do is avoid the questions and make absolutely disgusting transparent lies about others.


p.s. Your Hamas heroes just stole 40% of the aid money that Qatar sent for Gaza's poor.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/gaza-banks-to-dole-out-qatari-money-but-40000-cut-from-recipient-list/
 
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