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Right-wing terrorism vs. Islamic terrorism - which one is the greater global threat??

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https://twitter.com/AndrewAmsan/status/1231941366365556736

Don't click on this link, Phil. Or Butler. You're warned. It's nasty.

Happening today in Delhi. Muslims being beaten to death and lynched by Hindus
Dont click on this link, oagre. 15 villagers massacred by an ISIS-linked group: http://oklahoman.com/article/feed/1...-eastern-congo-kills-12-civilians-and-soldier
Dont click on this link, oagre. Muslim suicide bomber kills 10 in Pakistan: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...e-attack-religious-rally-200217134457848.html
Dont click on this link, oagre. Muslim terrorists kill 24 in Burkina Faso: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...rch-mass-shooting-in-burkina-faso/ar-BB105QC5

All this just happened over the last 8 days or so.
And I'm not sure what you were trying to prove with a bunch of people beat up at a riot, this thread is about terrorism
 
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Phil, damn man who is that girl in your sig??? She is a perfect 10! Please do not change your sig pic ever again, pleeeeeeeeeease :biggrin:
I'm gonna have to change it in a day or two :sorry:

As to our far-left, demented, commie child like friends... :peace:
They dont want peace, they hate our guts.

That might be a good thing though, a wise man once said you can always judge a man by the quality of his enemies :)
 

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Well....well...what do we have here?? A terrorist attack in Toronto friday night by some guy named Saad Akhtar.
I wonder what religion motivated him to do that :nod:

https://globalnews.ca/news/6594305/deadly-hammer-attack-terrorism/

A hammer attack that killed a 64-year-old woman in Toronto on Feb. 21 has been linked by police to terrorism, with the alleged murderer now facing a terrorism-related charge.

Saad Akhtar, 30, was already facing a first-degree murder charge over the apparently random killing of the woman, attacked by a man with a hammer on Friday evening.

But on Tuesday, prosecutors updated charge to “murder – terrorist activity.” The charge applies to a murder “if the act or omission constituting the offence also constitutes a terrorist activity.”

The RCMP and Toronto police said in a joint news release the attack “appears to be an isolated incident and there is no further known threat to the public associated to the accused at this time.”
 

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https://www.democracynow.org/2020/2...sH3LbYFyY82REbL5gTKOSCWjal2YxGrOtd9X8nysQgNsY

In India, the death toll from anti-Muslim violence in Delhi has risen to at least 34, with police accused of turning a blind eye to assaults on Muslims committed by Hindu nationalist mobs. The violence began Sunday, when groups of Hindus attacked peaceful sit-ins of Muslims protesting against Hindu nationalist Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s new citizenship law, which widely restricts Muslim immigration to India. Modi said nothing as the violence continued for days, instead hosting President Donald Trump on a two-day state visit in which Trump heaped praise on the Indian prime minister. We speak with Neha Dixit, independent Indian journalist, and Priya Gopal, lecturer at the University of Cambridge and author of “Insurgent Empire: Anticolonial Resistance and British Dissent.”
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This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form.

AMY GOODMAN: This is Democracy Now! I’m Amy Goodman, as we go now to India, where the death toll from anti-Muslim violence in Delhi has risen to at least 34, with police accused of standing by as Hindu nationalist mobs assault Muslims. The violence began Sunday when groups of Hindus attacked peaceful sit-ins of Muslims protesting against Hindu nationalist Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s new citizenship law, which widely restricts Muslim immigration to India. This is Mohammad Zubair, who said he was on his way home from a local mosque in northeast New Delhi when he was attacked by a mob.

MOHAMMAD ZUBAIR: [translated] Twenty to 25 people started beating me. The rest were standing by as if they were watching a show. There were thousands behind them. They kept hitting me. Nobody came forward to save me. Somehow, some people came from the other side. I was like unconscious. I didn’t have much consciousness. My clothes were drenched in blood.

AMY GOODMAN: Prime Minister Modi said nothing as the violence continued for days, instead hosting President Donald Trump on a two-day state visit in which Trump heaped praise on the Indian prime minister. This is Trump speaking about Modi at a news conference back in Washington Wednesday.

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: He’s a great gentleman, a great leader. It’s an incredible country. We were treated very, very well. And we really enjoyed it. A lot of tremendous progress was made in terms of relationship. Our relationship with India is extraordinary right now. And we’re going to be doing a lot of business with India. They’re sending billions and billions of dollars now to the United States.

AMY GOODMAN: On Sunday, human rights lawyer Arjun Sethi called Modi and Trump the “worst kind of fascists.” He tweeted, “oth Modi & Trump have criminalized minority communities, championed fake news & persecuted dissent, promoted supremacist ideologies, and played on the racism & anxiety of dominant communities,” unquote.

Modi broke his silence Wednesday, calling for peace on Twitter. But many critics have noted the Indian prime minister served as the chief minister of Gujarat when one of India’s worst anti-Muslim riots took place in 2002 that left at least a thousand people dead. After the bloodshed, the U.S. State Department revoked Modi’s visa, saying it could not grant a visa to any foreign government official who was, quote, “responsible for or directly carried out, at any time, particularly severe violations of religious freedom,” unquote. Modi has never apologized for or explained his actions at the time.

Well, for more, we’re joined by two guests. From Democracy Now! video stream in New Delhi, Neha Dixit is with us, independent journalist based there. Her investigative reporting focuses on politics, gender and social justice; recipient of the 2019 International Press Freedom Award from the Committee to Protect Journalists. And in Ithaca, New York, speaking to us from Cornell University, Priya Gopal, who’s on the Faculty of English at the University of Cambridge in Britain, author of Insurgent Empire: Anticolonial Resistance and British Dissent.

We welcome you both to Democracy Now! Let’s begin with Neha Dixit in New Delhi. Tell us what has happened there. In the wake of President Trump’s trip, what took place in New Delhi?

NEHA DIXIT: Thank you, Amy. In the last three days, we’ve seen a spell of violence in various parts of New Delhi, especially in the northeastern district. As of now, the death toll has gone up to 34, but people are still in the process of finding dead bodies everywhere and finding — raising the official count.

What happened on Sunday was that a lot — since December 2019, several people across the national capital have been protesting against the Citizenship Amendment Act that was passed. A lot of these protests had been led by Muslim women and with the participation of various other communities against this law that excludes Muslims. So, on Sunday night, a pro-CAA group, pro-Citizenship Amendment Act group, which was led by a member of the Bharatiya Janata Party, the BJP, which is also Narendra Modi’s party, they came there. This BJP member called Kapil Mishra, who is also a former MLA of the area, member of Legislative Assembly in Delhi, he incited violence. There’s evidence of that, saying that the protesters should move and go back. And it is from Sunday night ’til yesterday evening, the violence continues. Lots of schools, offices [inaudible]. Most of these are working-class Muslim areas. A large mob has been reported in various parts, stone pelting, using tear gas, using petrol bombs. And all this happened in the presence of police. There have been several videos that show that the police is standing while this kind of violence is being meted out by the mob on the people in these neighborhoods.

The other thing also happened was that this is the first time — yesterday I’ve seen, I met several people who were injured. Apart from petrol bombs and guns and tortures, acid was used on several people, so which is why lots of people have lost their eyes, have had damaged faces. Again, each time somebody tried to stop the mob from attacks, the police did not help them, instead stood as bystanders. Also, the police also joined at several places to raise Hindu slogans, such as “Jai Shri Ram.”

So, this has been the situation the last three days. Thirty-four people who have been killed, the bodies are still at the hospitals. The postmortems are still conducted. But lack of government support, lack of administrative support has led to no timely treatment for the people who have been injured. And this has been growing for the last two-and-a-half months, since the government passed the Citizenship Amendment Act, because it exclusively is meant to keep out the Muslim community in the country. And while these protests were resorting to nonviolence and constitutionalism clearly, this kind of violence was used. And not just the — various kinds of hate speeches have been used in the recent Delhi elections also. And it has created an atmosphere by the silence of the prime minister, under whose jurisdiction, under the central government, under whose — the police, the Delhi police, is under, that anybody who raises right-wing Hindu nationalist slogans or takes their agenda forward on the road enjoy impunity and are encouraged by this kind of silence from Modi and the other ministers.

AMY GOODMAN: And can you tell me, Neha, is this in any way — what just happened in New Delhi, is it related to President Trump being there and then being in Gujarat and 100,000 people for this “Namaste Trump” rally, in answer to Trump going to Houston and welcoming Modi at that “Howdy Modi” rally?

NEHA DIXIT: I would definitely say that the kind of Islamophobia that we have seen in the recent past, in the last few years, in India is also kind of encouraged by President Trump in the way he has treated the minorities everywhere else. This kind of Islamophobia is encouraged by this kind of silence also from President Trump, because he was asked a question during the press conference, and he did not respond to it. So there is a clear connection. Also the fact that these elements are emboldened by the visits of somebody like Trump, and recently we also had Bolsonaro, President Bolsonaro from Brazil, who kind of shares similar principles when it comes to minorities, when it comes to climate, when it comes to various other policies that leads to displacement. And when there is no reaction from them, and in fact they’re seen as endorsing Prime Minister Modi in India, there is a kind of encouragement for such things here.

I would also like to say that this is the first time — not the first time, but I would say we have not heard in the recent past where journalists in the last three days were actually attacked by mobs in the presence of police, and they were asked for their religions. So, several non-Hindu journalists were threatened. They were forced to delete their videos, forced to delete photos. They were brutally attacked. Some of the Hindu journalists had to identify and say Hindu prayers so that they’re let off by the mob. And this is unprecedented. And in this kind of a situation now, even reporting what is happening with a certain community has become such a problem.

The other thing that happened was that lots of people who were injured and were in small nursing homes and needed better facilities and needed to be transferred to bigger hospitals, ambulances were not allowed by the police to ..... Article Continues
 

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Right-wing extremists killed 38 people in U.S. in 2019, Anti-Defamation League finds

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/right-wing-extremists-killed-38-2019-anti-defamation-league/

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) found that white supremacists were responsible for 81% of the extremist-related murders in the U.S. in 2019, which the group says goes along with an ongoing resurgence of white supremacy that started in 2015.


The ADL's report found no murders in 2019 related to homegrown extremists inspired by foreign terrorist groups. Mark Pitcavage, a senior research fellow at the organization who authored the report, warned that domestic Islamist extremists remain "very much a real threat."
 

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https://www.democracynow.org/2020/2...sH3LbYFyY82REbL5gTKOSCWjal2YxGrOtd9X8nysQgNsY

In India, the death toll from anti-Muslim violence in Delhi has risen to at least 34, with police accused of turning a blind eye to assaults on Muslims committed by Hindu nationalist mobs. The violence began Sunday, when groups of Hindus attacked peaceful sit-ins of Muslims protesting against Hindu nationalist Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s new citizenship law, which widely restricts Muslim immigration to India. Modi said nothing as the violence continued for days, instead hosting President Donald Trump on a two-day state visit in which Trump heaped praise on the Indian prime minister. We speak with Neha Dixit, independent Indian journalist, and Priya Gopal, lecturer at the University of Cambridge and author of “Insurgent Empire: Anticolonial Resistance and British Dissent.”
Transcript
This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form.

AMY GOODMAN: This is Democracy Now! I’m Amy Goodman, as we go now to India, where the death toll from anti-Muslim violence in Delhi has risen to at least 34, with police accused of standing by as Hindu nationalist mobs assault Muslims. The violence began Sunday when groups of Hindus attacked peaceful sit-ins of Muslims protesting against Hindu nationalist Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s new citizenship law, which widely restricts Muslim immigration to India. This is Mohammad Zubair, who said he was on his way home from a local mosque in northeast New Delhi when he was attacked by a mob.

MOHAMMAD ZUBAIR: [translated] Twenty to 25 people started beating me. The rest were standing by as if they were watching a show. There were thousands behind them. They kept hitting me. Nobody came forward to save me. Somehow, some people came from the other side. I was like unconscious. I didn’t have much consciousness. My clothes were drenched in blood.

AMY GOODMAN: Prime Minister Modi said nothing as the violence continued for days, instead hosting President Donald Trump on a two-day state visit in which Trump heaped praise on the Indian prime minister. This is Trump speaking about Modi at a news conference back in Washington Wednesday.

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: He’s a great gentleman, a great leader. It’s an incredible country. We were treated very, very well. And we really enjoyed it. A lot of tremendous progress was made in terms of relationship. Our relationship with India is extraordinary right now. And we’re going to be doing a lot of business with India. They’re sending billions and billions of dollars now to the United States.

AMY GOODMAN: On Sunday, human rights lawyer Arjun Sethi called Modi and Trump the “worst kind of fascists.” He tweeted, “oth Modi & Trump have criminalized minority communities, championed fake news & persecuted dissent, promoted supremacist ideologies, and played on the racism & anxiety of dominant communities,” unquote.

Modi broke his silence Wednesday, calling for peace on Twitter. But many critics have noted the Indian prime minister served as the chief minister of Gujarat when one of India’s worst anti-Muslim riots took place in 2002 that left at least a thousand people dead. After the bloodshed, the U.S. State Department revoked Modi’s visa, saying it could not grant a visa to any foreign government official who was, quote, “responsible for or directly carried out, at any time, particularly severe violations of religious freedom,” unquote. Modi has never apologized for or explained his actions at the time.

Well, for more, we’re joined by two guests. From Democracy Now! video stream in New Delhi, Neha Dixit is with us, independent journalist based there. Her investigative reporting focuses on politics, gender and social justice; recipient of the 2019 International Press Freedom Award from the Committee to Protect Journalists. And in Ithaca, New York, speaking to us from Cornell University, Priya Gopal, who’s on the Faculty of English at the University of Cambridge in Britain, author of Insurgent Empire: Anticolonial Resistance and British Dissent.

We welcome you both to Democracy Now! Let’s begin with Neha Dixit in New Delhi. Tell us what has happened there. In the wake of President Trump’s trip, what took place in New Delhi?

NEHA DIXIT: Thank you, Amy. In the last three days, we’ve seen a spell of violence in various parts of New Delhi, especially in the northeastern district. As of now, the death toll has gone up to 34, but people are still in the process of finding dead bodies everywhere and finding — raising the official count.

What happened on Sunday was that a lot — since December 2019, several people across the national capital have been protesting against the Citizenship Amendment Act that was passed. A lot of these protests had been led by Muslim women and with the participation of various other communities against this law that excludes Muslims. So, on Sunday night, a pro-CAA group, pro-Citizenship Amendment Act group, which was led by a member of the Bharatiya Janata Party, the BJP, which is also Narendra Modi’s party, they came there. This BJP member called Kapil Mishra, who is also a former MLA of the area, member of Legislative Assembly in Delhi, he incited violence. There’s evidence of that, saying that the protesters should move and go back. And it is from Sunday night ’til yesterday evening, the violence continues. Lots of schools, offices [inaudible]. Most of these are working-class Muslim areas. A large mob has been reported in various parts, stone pelting, using tear gas, using petrol bombs. And all this happened in the presence of police. There have been several videos that show that the police is standing while this kind of violence is being meted out by the mob on the people in these neighborhoods.

The other thing also happened was that this is the first time — yesterday I’ve seen, I met several people who were injured. Apart from petrol bombs and guns and tortures, acid was used on several people, so which is why lots of people have lost their eyes, have had damaged faces. Again, each time somebody tried to stop the mob from attacks, the police did not help them, instead stood as bystanders. Also, the police also joined at several places to raise Hindu slogans, such as “Jai Shri Ram.”

So, this has been the situation the last three days. Thirty-four people who have been killed, the bodies are still at the hospitals. The postmortems are still conducted. But lack of government support, lack of administrative support has led to no timely treatment for the people who have been injured. And this has been growing for the last two-and-a-half months, since the government passed the Citizenship Amendment Act, because it exclusively is meant to keep out the Muslim community in the country. And while these protests were resorting to nonviolence and constitutionalism clearly, this kind of violence was used. And not just the — various kinds of hate speeches have been used in the recent Delhi elections also. And it has created an atmosphere by the silence of the prime minister, under whose jurisdiction, under the central government, under whose — the police, the Delhi police, is under, that anybody who raises right-wing Hindu nationalist slogans or takes their agenda forward on the road enjoy impunity and are encouraged by this kind of silence from Modi and the other ministers.

AMY GOODMAN: And can you tell me, Neha, is this in any way — what just happened in New Delhi, is it related to President Trump being there and then being in Gujarat and 100,000 people for this “Namaste Trump” rally, in answer to Trump going to Houston and welcoming Modi at that “Howdy Modi” rally?

NEHA DIXIT: I would definitely say that the kind of Islamophobia that we have seen in the recent past, in the last few years, in India is also kind of encouraged by President Trump in the way he has treated the minorities everywhere else. This kind of Islamophobia is encouraged by this kind of silence also from President Trump, because he was asked a question during the press conference, and he did not respond to it. So there is a clear connection. Also the fact that these elements are emboldened by the visits of somebody like Trump, and recently we also had Bolsonaro, President Bolsonaro from Brazil, who kind of shares similar principles when it comes to minorities, when it comes to climate, when it comes to various other policies that leads to displacement. And when there is no reaction from them, and in fact they’re seen as endorsing Prime Minister Modi in India, there is a kind of encouragement for such things here.

I would also like to say that this is the first time — not the first time, but I would say we have not heard in the recent past where journalists in the last three days were actually attacked by mobs in the presence of police, and they were asked for their religions. So, several non-Hindu journalists were threatened. They were forced to delete their videos, forced to delete photos. They were brutally attacked. Some of the Hindu journalists had to identify and say Hindu prayers so that they’re let off by the mob. And this is unprecedented. And in this kind of a situation now, even reporting what is happening with a certain community has become such a problem.

The other thing that happened was that lots of people who were injured and were in small nursing homes and needed better facilities and needed to be transferred to bigger hospitals, ambulances were not allowed by the police to ..... Article Continues

Gee oagre, I wonder where all that anti-muslim violence is coming from.

I'm thinking its all just falling out of the sky, isnt it???!!! :nod:

Or perhaps not: https://www.opindia.com/2020/02/del...al-19-year-old-drill-machine-violence-police/


19 year old Vivek attacked in his own shop, drill machine bored into his head

In a horrific incident, a 19-year-old boy was attacked allegedly by a violent mob during the anti-CAA riots in Delhi on Tuesday.

According to the CNN-News18’s Payal Mehta, a surgery was performed to remove a drill machine that was bored into the skull of 19-year-old named Vivek on Tuesday. The victim who underwent the surgery at the Guru Tegh Bahadur Hospital is currently recovering.

As per reports, Vivek was attacked inside his own shop.



Reportedly, the doctors stated that man’s surgery was done last night and said, “Only time will tell the extent to which he has been able to recover.” The incident was reported amid ongoing violence in various parts of Delhi.

Journalist Payal Mehta has just shared an update on Vivek’s health on Twitter. She has stated that the young boy is reportedly stable after the surgery, he has eaten and is talking.

On Monday, another Hindu activist named Vinod was killed by the Muslim mobs in the city during the anti-CAA riots. The body of a Hindu activist was seen being dragged to the far end of a street in Brahmapuri even as the violent Muslim mob passionately shouted slogans of “Nara e Taqbeer, Allahu Akbar”. A bike parked nearby is also seen being torched by the anti-CAA rioters.

The 42-year old reportedly died after succumbing to injuries in front of his son Monu. The child was also injured in the attack
 

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Gee oagre, I wonder where all that anti-muslim violence is coming from.

I'm thinking its all just falling out of the sky, isnt it???!!! :nod:

Or perhaps not: https://www.opindia.com/2020/02/del...al-19-year-old-drill-machine-violence-police/
You do realize that there are riots in India because Modi the nationalist/populist put in place a law to try to take citizenship away from Muslims, don't you?
Are you really going to try to blame Muslims for Modi's law?
 

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Phil, every sect kills every other sect in India. I've posted the same message many times.

The point I am trying to make is that the Third World is different to Willowdale or Oshawa. Sectarian violence is common in the Third World - although South Asia is particularly bad. And I always bring that point up when you or your buddy Zaibetter find a pearl about some sectarian killing in Chad or the Punjab and compare it to shit that happens in Topeka or Lackawanna.

So am I surprised that Muslims tortured and killed a Hindu in Delhi?!... Fuck no! They've been killing each other for a millennium.

So again, you want to compare right wing nuts against Muslim jihadi assholes, do it in Western Europe and N America. At least you will produce a logically consistent analytical framework. And while I realize logic and analysis are not your forte, it's something you can work on.

Here is what I think you would come up with.

1. Islamic terrorism is on the wane, since the fall of the Caliphate, although die-hards still commit lone wolf attacks like the one in Streatham.
2. Right wing terrorism is on the rise, having been empowered by the election of Trump and BoJo in England. (A similar "Hey, our side is winning!" effect as ISIS had on Muslim wacknuts 5 years ago).
 

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What does the thread title say?? Does it say USA, Canada and Germany, or does it say globally??
I'll be waiting for your answer
OIC, so USA, Germany and Canada are not part of this "Globe"?? Which other planet do they exist in??

Your question make no sense. You wrote: "So are you saying that these right wing terrorists are better than time Islamic Terrorists in Canada and the USA??"
What the hell does that mean?? Time better than Islamic Terrorists?? :confused:
Terrorists are terrorists, be it Islamists... that you have displayed your hatred to, or far right Neo-nazis. Why do you make excuses for such terrorists!!
 

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HHmm.....time to update this thread maybe??


1,400 Israelis were killed, including 1,033 civilians, 299 soldiers and 58 police officers.
The attack left over 3,400 wounded, and 200 soldiers and civilians taken hostage
 

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I thought this thread resurrection would be because of the military reserve gun expert who shot up Maine but I guess Frank needs to use every thread to justify Hamas.

p.s. for Phil. I'm far more concerned about where I live and in Canada, Islamic extremism is a non-threat (despite the anti-semitism the pro-Hamas crown promote).


p.p.s. Hamas ARE BOTH right wing and Islamic terrorists.
 

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I thought this thread resurrection would be because of the military reserve gun expert who shot up Maine but I guess Frank needs to use every thread to justify Hamas.

p.s. for Phil. I'm far more concerned about where I live and in Canada, Islamic extremism is a non-threat (despite the anti-semitism the pro-Hamas crown promote).


p.p.s. Hamas ARE BOTH right wing and Islamic terrorists.
Blame phil, he resurrected the thread and brought Israel into the discussion.

 

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Blame phil, he resurrected the thread and brought Israel into the discussion.
...
I'll continue to blame you for your antisemitism.

I know you refuse to admit Hamas are terrorists but will you at least admit they are right wing?
 
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