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Right-wing terrorism vs. Islamic terrorism - which one is the greater global threat??

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Absolutely they do! We agree on something.

The irrational ones are the people who make excuses for that toxic religion. Or when they turn a blind eye to terrorism.
You know, people like you :nod:
Phil admits to being an Islamophobe.
 

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Thats what I thought, you cant even come up with one single post, can you?? :nod:
Once again when you make an allegation against someone and when posed to show some evidence you know that you do not have any proof. So fake allegations by Phil, and he continues to make excuses for the right wing terrorists!!
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Once again when you make an allegation against someone and when posed to show some evidence you know that you do not have any proof. So fake allegations by Phil, and he continues to make excuses for the right wing terrorists!!
Nice dodge, beaver. I asked you to post one single post where you criticized Islamic terrorism, and you couldnt do it.

That speaks volumes
 

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Nice dodge, beaver. I asked you to post one single post where you criticized Islamic terrorism, and you couldnt do it.

That speaks volumes
Countered by:
1) Phil's refusal to criticize right wing terrorism
2) a thread dedicated to dehumanizing Muslims through a biased list of attacks.

This is the reality that Phil not only ignores but now actively supports.

All of the extremist killings in the US in 2018 had links to right-wing extremism, according to new report
https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1
 

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Nice dodge, beaver. I asked you to post one single post where you criticized Islamic terrorism, and you couldnt do it.

That speaks volumes
You dodged the question in the first place admit it Phil. Islamic Terrorism, White Supremacist Terrorism, KKK Terrorism, Extreme Right Wing Terrorism........ We moderates (lefties to you!!), have condemned it all the time. But you Phil have falsely called the Yonge Street terrorist a Muslim from day 1. Fake news by you again!!
 

Phil C. McNasty

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You dodged the question in the first place admit it Phil. Islamic Terrorism, White Supremacist Terrorism, KKK Terrorism, Extreme Right Wing Terrorism........ We moderates (lefties to you!!), have condemned it all the time
Okay, then you should have no problem showing me just one post where you condemned Islamic Terrorism.

Please post a link. I'll be waiting
 

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Okay, then you should have no problem showing me just one post where you condemned Islamic Terrorism.

Please post a link. I'll be waiting
I posted gazillion times denouncing Muslim and Right Wing Terrorism. See Post #12:

Anyway, if you revisit my original question that you are now answering, then according to you, all the Muslim extremists and Right wing extremists are mentally ill. That is your point of view, but I think that they committed purely hate crimes, unless the individuals in question are proven to be mentally ill.
Then Post #15

Once again I have denounced terrorists and those carrying out violence as I have stated numerous times whether they are Islamists or Extreme Right Wing Neo-nazis and I have held both sides of terrorists and violent individuals to the same standard. Now, have I made myself 100% clear??
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?661524-Muslims-in-America&highlight=muslim

Now Phil come up with just one piece of evidence where I have condoned Islamic Terrorism?? Otherwise, just walk away as a fake news perpetrator!!
 

Phil C. McNasty

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I posted gazillion times denouncing Muslim and Right Wing Terrorism. See Post #12:

Then Post #15
Not a gazillion times, you posted it twice.
But anyways thats good to hear. I too denounce all terrorism, including right-wing terror.

That however still doesnt change the fact Islamic terrorism accounts for over 90% of all terrorism committed worldwide.
This is a fact, whether you Lefties like it or not (and apparently you dont like to hear that, as this threads proves).

Case in point, Boko Haram suicide bomber killed 6 in Chad yesterday: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/afri...s-chad-including-soldier-190814140629813.html

And I want you to read the following quote from the article very carefully:

Violence in the region has killed more than 30,000 people and displaced about two million since 2009 when Boko Haram first launched an armed campaign with the intention of carving out an Islamic caliphate in northeast Nigeria.

Fighters in the Lake Chad region have routinely ambushed soldiers, opened fire on markets and kidnapped women and children, including nearly 270 schoolgirls in the village of Chibok in 2014, a hundred of whom are still missing.

Boko Haram has carried out at least 10 cross-border attacks in Chad since 2018, mainly targeting army positions
So Boko Harem has killed 30,000 since 2009 so they can set up an Islamic caliphate.
Does that sound like a religion of peace to you??
 

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That however still doesnt change the fact Islamic terrorism accounts for over 90% of all terrorism committed worldwide.
This is a fact, whether you Lefties like it or not (and apparently you dont like to hear that, as this threads proves).
Its not a fact, your list is biased, it includes one side of acts of war and excludes right wing terrorists based on your personal views.
Your claim is nonsense.
 

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Not a gazillion times, you posted it twice.
But anyways thats good to hear. I too denounce all terrorism, including right-wing terror.

That however still doesnt change the fact Islamic terrorism accounts for over 90% of all terrorism committed worldwide.
This is a fact, whether you Lefties like it or not (and apparently you dont like to hear that, as this threads proves).

Case in point, Boko Haram suicide bomber killed 6 in Chad yesterday: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/afri...s-chad-including-soldier-190814140629813.html

And I want you to read the following quote from the article very carefully:


So Boko Harem has killed 30,000 since 2009 so they can set up an Islamic caliphate.
Does that sound like a religion of peace to you??
No, I posted it a gazillion times, meaning everytime there is a terrorist thread and some right wingers make that fake allegation that "lefties" support Islam Terrorism, then I make my stand very clear like I did in those quotes. So it is not just two times.

Boko Haram is a terrorist organization and has to be denounced. They have very little to do with the actual religion of Islam, that they use to promote their terrorist activities.

We have a million Muslims in Canada. Do they all go around preaching hate and promoting terrorism?? Most of these Canadians are running away from persecution and that is why they have been welcomed here. Moreover, a large majority are hard working and law abiding. You would never guess so with all the anti-Muslim threads on a daily basis that are started on this Board. But the sad part is that the White Supremacist / extreme right wing terrorism is the biggest threat here in North American. Of course you have not updated your thread to take into account the California shootings.

Also the killing of the step-sister by that Norwegian right wing terrorist that was part of an attempted terror attack that was curtailed by a brave, senior Muslim. You have not added that killing to your list, although you had no problem to do so for a random killing in Ohio including the killer's own sister!!
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Boko Haram is a terrorist organization and has to be denounced. They have very little to do with the actual religion of Islam, that they use to promote their terrorist activities
Doesnt matter, they still consider themselves muslims and kill in the name of their religion

We have a million Muslims in Canada. Do they all go around preaching hate and promoting terrorism?? Most of these Canadians are running away from persecution and that is why they have been welcomed here. Moreover, a large majority are hard working and law abiding. You would never guess so with all the anti-Muslim threads on a daily basis that are started on this Board
You neglect to mention Canada has narrowly avoided 2 large terrorist attack that were thwarted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Via_Rail_Canada_terrorism_plot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Ontario_terrorism_plot

That wouldve meant hundreds of deaths if they hadnt been stopped.
And yes, one of the plots was partially stopped by a muslim, so no need to point that out.
That still doesnt change the fact that once again 2 major terror plots were orchestrated by the religion of peace


But the sad part is that the White Supremacist / extreme right wing terrorism is the biggest threat here in North American
And once again, the thread title clearly states which one is the greater global threat.
When you narrow it down to just North-America you are moving the goalposts
 

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You neglect to mention Canada has narrowly avoided 2 large terrorist attack that were thwarted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Via_Rail_Canada_terrorism_plot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Ontario_terrorism_plot
So zero completed attacks in Canada by Muslim terrorists vs 1 white supremacist/right winger terrorist attack in Quebec City by Alexandre Bissonnette.

Once again Phil shows that white supremacists are committing more terrorism, even in Canada.
 

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Maurice Hill, the criminal who wounded six police officers in a shootout in Philadelphia and was arrested after a seven-hour standoff, attended a radical mosque.

The mosque, called Masjid Ahlil Hadith Wal Athar, is known for preaching the Islamist ideology promoted by Saudi Arabia referred to as “Wahhabism.”

Clarion Intelligence Network has been aware through its sources that the area where the shootings took place is known for trafficking in guns, drugs and counterfeit items. This criminal market has a strong Islamist element that includes extremist gangs.

Hill’s older sister said he “occasionally attended” an unnamed mosque, confirming initial reports from our sources that Hill is a Muslim. The sources do not yet have first-hand evidence of the shooter being personally involved in Islamist extremism.

Clarion Intel’s sources report that Masjid Ahlil Hadith Wal Athar is a Salafi mosque which follows the theocratic teachings of Saudi Arabia’s top Wahhabist scholars.

At this point, there is no indication that Hill’s shooting of police officers was motivated by Islamism or anything other than a desire to resist arrest.

However, Islamism’s inherent hostility towards Western governments and values fuels anti-police bigotry that can justify violence against law enforcement. Clarion’s sources stated that many of the mosque’s attendees view the police as oppressors of Muslims….

https://clarionproject.org/clarion-intel-exclusive-philadelphia-shooter-attended-radical-mosque/
 

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State Rep. Matt Shea wrote a manifesto for a holy war on Muslims, working for a Christian group that wanted to teach children how to become 'holy warriors' in the US.

A week before his re-election last year, state Rep. Matt Shea denied that a leaked manifesto he wrote was a road map for a holy war, one that would pit conservative Christian “patriots” against Muslim and Marxist “terrorists.”

Rather, Shea insisted, the document titled “Biblical Basis for War” contained notes for a scholarly sermon on war in the Old Testament.

But newly leaked emails, first reported by The Guardian on Wednesday, as well as a video on Shea’s public Facebook page, show the Spokane Valley Republican has had close ties with a group called Team Rugged that trained children, teens and men in their early 20s for religious combat.

“The entire purpose behind Team Rugged is to provide patriotic and biblical training on war for young men,” a man identified as the group’s leader, Patrick Caughran, wrote in a July 2016 email to Shea. “Everything about it is both politically incorrect and what would be considered shocking truth to most modern christians. There will be scenarios where every participant will have to fight against one of the most barbaric enemies that are invading our country, Muslims terrorists.”

Caughran added that a Team Rugged event would offer “biblical teaching” based on the works of John Weaver, a racist preacher who has defended slavery, idolized the Confederacy and condemned interracial marriage. The Southern Poverty Law Center says Weaver “has recently become a leading proponent of training Christians for armed battle.”

The event also would offer weapons training, Caughran told Shea. “Those who attend will learn combatives, the use of a knife in defense, close quarters shooting with rifle and pistol and how to work effectively in teams of 2, 3 and 4.”
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...orsed-training-children-to-fight-in-holy-war/

Is this what Phil is really defending and justifying here?

“There will be scenarios where every participant will have to fight against one of the most barbaric enemies that are invading our country, Muslims terrorists (sic)”.

Caughran goes on to detail the group’s training regime, writing that “there will be biblical teaching (some taken from pastor John Weaver’s works) on biblical warfare, the responsibilities, regulations, principles and mindset. So that our young men will be better prepared to fight against physical enemies, and to do so, God’s way and with His blessing”.

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The Georgia-based Weaver is a controversial preacher whom the Southern Poverty Law Center says is a “leading proponent for training Christians for armed battle”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/13/matt-shea-biblical-war-washington-team-rugged
 
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