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Theresa May throws in the towel and resigns effective June 07

rafterman

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/wor...eresa-may-resigns-over-brexit-failure-i-have/

Mixed feelings. She was in a tough, perhaps no win situation, but she didn't do herself any favors during the so far tortuous Brexit negotiations. Of course this begs the question too who and what comes next? Sounds like Boris Johnson has the inside track at this point but I'm sure there will be some infighting until a winner (?) emerges.
 

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No mixed feelings here, but OP's right it's a lose-lose situation. A 2nd referendum might be the way out.
 

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She should have made it clear, when she lost that first vote, that this was indeed a matter of confidence and called a new popular vote. Whether that was another general election, or a second referendum, or some combination. A PM doesn't get stronger, more able or more successful by losing vote after vote, no matter how well intentioned and improved each offering may be. She succeeds by making the voters — in or out of Parliament — face the reality of the choice they made and live with its consequences. Or they must choose again. There is no third thing.

Now Boris gets the Comfy Chair
 

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Theresa May didn't want to preside of the disintegration of the British Tories, which will happen anyway if the moron Boris Johnson gets in. It wasn't her fault, Brexit was set up by Gordon Brown and David Cameron with their regressive taxation. The EU is the convenient scapegoat. Too much wealth concentrated in London with the rest of England getting table scraps.

There should be another referendum, Nigel Farage made millions off the last one. Does he expect The Spanish Inquisition?
 

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Theresa May didn't want to preside of the disintegration of the British Tories, which will happen anyway if the moron Boris Johnson gets in. It wasn't her fault, Brexit was set up by Gordon Brown and David Cameron with their regressive taxation. The EU is the convenient scapegoat. Too much wealth concentrated in London with the rest of England getting table scraps.

There should be another referendum, Nigel Farage made millions off the last one. Does he expect The Spanish Inquisition?
Thank you Cardinal Biggles. Makes you wonder what Mrs. May thinks party discipline is, and what it should be used for. The Tories had already disintegrated under Cameron, who thought a referendum would quiet one faction or the other, and he didn't much care which. Since the result was so close, May couldn't sway anyone by arguing she was only doing the people's will. Perhaps she wasn't tough enough to whip her CUP (her name) into line and win the vote in the House, but it was a mistake to go for a second on nothing but the dubious merits of her deal when it was doubtful any meaningful majority anywhere wanted any deal at all.

She's well out of it.
 

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Boris Johnson will be equivalent to The UK jumping out of the Frying Pan int the Fire!! They should conduct an emergency Referendum under the circumstances. Really the Government have displayed their incompetence in this whole respect. The British citizens are paying the price. Last thing that May should want is to host Trump as he is the most polarizing and divisive figure even though he is an American. So not the best way to leave 10 Downing Street!!
 

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Democracy works only if the outcome of a referendum
is what the ruling power wants?
 

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Theresa May didn't want to preside of the disintegration of the British Tories, which will happen anyway if the moron Boris Johnson gets in. It wasn't her fault, Brexit was set up by Gordon Brown and David Cameron with their regressive taxation. The EU is the convenient scapegoat. Too much wealth concentrated in London with the rest of England getting table scraps.

There should be another referendum, Nigel Farage made millions off the last one. Does he expect The Spanish Inquisition?

Reasonable interpretation. The Tory right wing is obsessed with its fantasy of Britain being a world power, just like in 1850 and sees European membership being an insult to Britain's greatness. There is no realistic analysis there. They have been told time and again by their own experts that Brexit will wreck the British economy and they just shrug. They believed that the EU would cave in when confronted by British "firm, imperial character" and would essentially give Britain all the benefits of membership with none of the obligations. The French and Germans simply told Britain to go fuck itself and gave Britain nothing in the negotiations. The Tory right wing and the Farage bullshit party want Brexit anyway. Because. And because Britain is the greatest country in the world, just like Queen Victoria said back in 1877.

Public opinion has now swung heavily AGAINST Brexit. That is why May refuses a 2nd referendum. She would have lost. BoJo will refuse a 2nd referendum too, for the same reason.

Corbyn and the Labour hard left socialists support Brexit. 90% of the Labour rank and file are Remainers. The Labour Party is being destroyed by Brexit along with the Tories. In recent local govt elections, both parties were virtually annihilated by Remainer parties.

Both parties are being massacred in the EU elections. Farage - who is a sleazebag scam artist, as is BoJo - is sweeping the Brexit vote and Remainer parties are eating everything else.

It's a shit show that will wreck the country in every way possible. The Tories will split over this and the party right will likely merge with Farage's party. Labour will split over Brexit as well. BoJo is a corrupt, incompetent, lying, spineless buffoon who is despised by 70% of the country, but has a following on the Tory right which will get him the PM-ship at a party convention.

None of this will do anything to solve the REAL problems of the country which are regional inequality, spiralling down standard of living, vicious government service cuts, financial flight to off shore tax shelters, lack of social mobility and opportunity, growing political corruption, growing Russian involvement in politics and regressive tax and financial policies. Parliament wrangles and feuds endlessly over Brexit. Far right and left extremism are growing. Corbyn's own policies are further left than AOC and will split the country along economic and ideological lines and Corbyn himself is an arrogant, tone deaf jerk-off. It's a car crash in slow motion.
 

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Reasonable interpretation. The Tory right wing is obsessed with its fantasy of Britain being a world power, just like in 1850 and sees European membership being an insult to Britain's greatness. There is no realistic analysis there. They have been told time and again by their own experts that Brexit will wreck the British economy and they just shrug. They believed that the EU would cave in when confronted by British "firm, imperial character" and would essentially give Britain all the benefits of membership with none of the obligations. The French and Germans simply told Britain to go fuck itself and gave Britain nothing in the negotiations. The Tory right wing and the Farage bullshit party want Brexit anyway. Because. And because Britain is the greatest country in the world, just like Queen Victoria said back in 1877.

Public opinion has now swung heavily AGAINST Brexit. That is why May refuses a 2nd referendum. She would have lost. BoJo will refuse a 2nd referendum too, for the same reason.

Corbyn and the Labour hard left socialists support Brexit. 90% of the Labour rank and file are Remainers. The Labour Party is being destroyed by Brexit along with the Tories. In recent local govt elections, both parties were virtually annihilated by Remainer parties.

Both parties are being massacred in the EU elections. Farage - who is a sleazebag scam artist, as is BoJo - is sweeping the Brexit vote and Remainer parties are eating everything else.

It's a shit show that will wreck the country in every way possible. The Tories will split over this and the party right will likely merge with Farage's party. Labour will split over Brexit as well. BoJo is a corrupt, incompetent, lying, spineless buffoon who is despised by 70% of the country, but has a following on the Tory right which will get him the PM-ship at a party convention.

None of this will do anything to solve the REAL problems of the country which are regional inequality, spiralling down standard of living, vicious government service cuts, financial flight to off shore tax shelters, lack of social mobility and opportunity, growing political corruption, growing Russian involvement in politics and regressive tax and financial policies. Parliament wrangles and feuds endlessly over Brexit. Far right and left extremism are growing. Corbyn's own policies are further left than AOC and will split the country along economic and ideological lines and Corbyn himself is an arrogant, tone deaf jerk-off. It's a car crash in slow motion.
Its the big problem with populists, they funnel rage at the system into distractions while they make the problems worse.
Trump was elected by fear of loss of living standards by blaming all migrants or people of colour while all he does is cut services and taxes to the rich. He's making life for most americans worse, except for plutocrats.

Brexit is another version of the same protests, just blaming the EU nominally instead of immigrants (though that's in there as well).

Probably the best example of this was the yellow vest movement which was really just mass anger at the status quo but not a single clue what the real issues or solutions were, so you had people in yellow vests marching with totally contractory signs and ideals.

I haven't been following it to see where its going, other than laughing with the news that Farage is now plagued by milkshake throwing protesters.
Nigel Farage ‘trapped on Brexit bus due to people armed with milkshakes’
His bus driver said a few people turned up with the chilled drinks as he toured Kent
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9132151/nigel-farage-brexit-bus-people-milkshakes/
 

mandrill

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Its the big problem with populists, they funnel rage at the system into distractions while they make the problems worse.
Trump was elected by fear of loss of living standards by blaming all migrants or people of colour while all he does is cut services and taxes to the rich. He's making life for most americans worse, except for plutocrats.

Brexit is another version of the same protests, just blaming the EU nominally instead of immigrants (though that's in there as well).

Probably the best example of this was the yellow vest movement which was really just mass anger at the status quo but not a single clue what the real issues or solutions were, so you had people in yellow vests marching with totally contractory signs and ideals.

I haven't been following it to see where its going, other than laughing with the news that Farage is now plagued by milkshake throwing protesters.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9132151/nigel-farage-brexit-bus-people-milkshakes/
Pretty much.

"Milk shaking" is the latest silliness and will last until a couple of Farage's minders forcefully ram the milkshake up the arse of whatever leftie is trying to throw it on Nigel.

Then it will be cries of "brutality" and "Nazi thuggery".
 

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Frankfooter

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It's sad to see the resumption of the decline of the U.K. which was reversed by Margaret Thatcher and North Sea oil. Are there lessons here for Canada?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-sterling-banks-nationalisation-a8738296.html
Yes, the lesson is that the UK blew their resources while Norway nationalized and used theirs incredibly well, saving money for the future and paying for social services.
Just like Alberta wasted theirs with tax cuts and not reading the future issues of the dirties oil around and climate change to save money and plan for a post oil economy.

Think you could ever learn those lessons?
 

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The French have the "yellow jackets". Germany is considered successful only when compared to other Euro countries like Spain, Italy, Greece, etc.

For what its worth, the Fall of the Roman Empire started when they hired foreign mercenaries to fight their battles. The same thing is happening in Germany, they are hiring cheap Muslim labor to do the jobs that Germans won't do.
 

mandrill

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The French have the "yellow jackets". Germany is considered successful only when compared to other Euro countries like Spain, Italy, Greece, etc.

For what its worth, the Fall of the Roman Empire started when they hired foreign mercenaries to fight their battles. The same thing is happening in Germany, they are hiring cheap Muslim labor to do the jobs that Germans won't do.

That started in the 60's Darts. I spent a summer there in the 70's and most hotel staff were already Italian or Turkish.

And Rome had slaves to do menial labour and lasted for a thousand years.
 
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