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Federal judge sides with Congress in legal fight over Trump's financial records

bver_hunter

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Trump sounds like a sore loser. He is now criticizing the Judge. As usual he wants to be a dictator and not abide by the law. No wonder the Republicans themselves are now coming on board with impeaching this idiot!!

A federal judge sided with a Democratic-controlled congressional committee on Monday, ordering President Trump's accounting firm to comply with a subpoena and turn over his long-sought financial records.
"It is simply not fathomable that a Constitution that grants Congress the power to remove a President for reasons including criminal behavior would deny Congress the power to investigate him for unlawful conduct — past or present — even without
formally opening an impeachment inquiry," U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta wrote in a lengthy opinion Monday afternoon.
Before boarding Marine One for a campaign rally in Pennsylvania Monday night, the president said the decision was "crazy" and "totally wrong." His attorney, Jay Sekulow, said he "will be filing a timely notice of appeal" with the court.

The decision is likely to escalate the showdown between Democratic lawmakers and the White House. Mehta, of the D.C. District Court, ruled in favor of the House Oversight Committee and its subpoena calling for Mazars USA LLP — a firm which has handled the president's accounting — to disclose Mr. Trump's financial records dating back to 2011. He said the president and his lawyers could not prevent the accounting firm from complying with the panel's request.
"Applying those principles here compels the conclusion that President Trump cannot block the subpoena to Mazars," Mehta added in his ruling.

Mehta, nominated by President Obama in 2014, disagreed with the argument by the president and his legal team that the subpoena by the Democratic-led panel lacked any "legislative purpose" and was part of a politically motivated ploy to undermine Mr. Trump's presidency. He cited the committee's "consideration" to bolster ethics and disclosures laws, and its investigation into whether the president has violated the Foreign Emoluments Clause in the Constitution through his businesses empire, now operated by his sons.
"These are facially valid legislative purposes, and it is not for the court to question whether the Committee's actions are truly motivated by political considerations," Mehta wrote.
The subpoena issued to Mazars has precipitated one of several legal clashes between House Democrats and the president's legal team and White House counsel — who have vowed to defy most of Democrats' subpoenas.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-...mp-financial-records-live-updates-2019-05-20/
 

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Trump accused Democrats of trying to get a “redo” of the Mueller investigation. “They’re trying to get what we used to call in school a do-over,” he told reporters on the South Lawn early Monday evening before departing for a campaign rally in Pennsylvania.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/20/us/politics/trump-financial-records.html

Trump has been rattled by the ruling by Judge Mehta. Will be interesting to see how far Trump can go with trying to hide his sleazy business dealings!!
 

Frankfooter

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After the Deutsche Bank reports, no wonder Trump is trying so hard to keep that info from going public.
Likely there will be as much fraud as at Trump U or the Trump Inauguration, or anything else Trump.
 

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Trump sounds like a sore loser. He is now criticizing the Judge. As usual he wants to be a dictator and not abide by the law. No wonder the Republicans themselves are now coming on board with impeaching this idiot!!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-...mp-financial-records-live-updates-2019-05-20/
Unfortunately this is very true. If it was up to Supreme Leader Trump no one would there criticize him, no one would dare even ask the question or have the gull to make Supreme Leader Trump abide by any laws.
Trump, his administration as well as his blind base/followers have been attempting to label this a politically motivated which they attempt to do with anything that questions Trump or his actions/wrongdoings.
 

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Trump accused Democrats of trying to get a “redo” of the Mueller investigation.
Does "double jeopardy" exist in investigations? Or, can they keep investigating over and over again?

BTW: The Trump Administration has appointed 105 new federal judges.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Trump's taxes??

You Lefties are really getting desperate now.....LOL.

But good luck with all that :thumb:
 

Frankfooter

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Does "double jeopardy" exist in investigations? Or, can they keep investigating over and over again?

BTW: The Trump Administration has appointed 105 new federal judges.
Barr still hasn't released Mueller's summary or the full report to congress.
This is just beginning.

There is talk now that Mueller may need to be subpoenaed to talk to congress.
 

bver_hunter

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Does "double jeopardy" exist in investigations? Or, can they keep investigating over and over again?

BTW: The Trump Administration has appointed 105 new federal judges.
Federal Judges appointed just to try and cover his illegal activities. Of course, that was expected!!

Clearly, then there should have been absolutely no objections to his ex-staff appearing before the House Judiciary Committee to verify that there were no wrongdoings.
If you connect the dots to the Mueller report then there seems to be an "Obstruction of Justice". By the way the "double jeopardy" seems to exist with the investigation of the whole "Mueller Investigation" instigated by Trump's new pet Barr. You nailed it in that respect!!
 

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Trump's taxes??

You Lefties are really getting desperate now.....LOL.

But good luck with all that :thumb:
LOL! The Dems and their fans seem to believe that the Congress is in some way superior to the Executive Branch. That's, of course, a Constitutional gibberish. The branches are co-equal. Which means that the legislative still must provide cause when issuing subpoenas to investigate the Executive. "Because Jerry said so" is an insufficient reason and the President's choice to invoke the Executive Privilege is his legal right and the right thing to do. Just like it was a correct thing to do for other Presidents going back all the way to George Washington. What they want is to use the IRS, to investigate not the President Trump, but citizen Trump (before his candidacy) to show that he was ineligible to run in the first place. Fortunately, America is a Constitutional Republic and the House simply doesn't have the horsepower nor the legal standing to go banana republic on the Executive Branch. In a language that even the progressives can understand: Trump whooped their ass, again.
 

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LOL! The Dems and their fans seem to believe that the Congress is in some way superior to the Executive Branch. That's, of course, a Constitutional gibberish. The branches are co-equal. Which means that the legislative still must provide cause when issuing subpoenas to investigate the Executive.
WRONG!

Why don't you read judge Mehta's 41 page decision on why congress, which has the constitutional power to remove a corrupt POS from POTUS, has the right to investigate regardless of what partisan hacks think.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/20/politics/mehta-opinion-trump-subpoena-case/index.html
 

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LOL! The Dems and their fans seem to believe that the Congress is in some way superior to the Executive Branch. That's, of course, a Constitutional gibberish. The branches are co-equal. Which means that the legislative still must provide cause when issuing subpoenas to investigate the Executive. "Because Jerry said so" is an insufficient reason and the President's choice to invoke the Executive Privilege is his legal right and the right thing to do. Just like it was a correct thing to do for other Presidents going back all the way to George Washington. What they want is to use the IRS, to investigate not the President Trump, but citizen Trump (before his candidacy) to show that he was ineligible to run in the first place. Fortunately, America is a Constitutional Republic and the House simply doesn't have the horsepower nor the legal standing to go banana republic on the Executive Branch. In a language that even the progressives can understand: Trump whooped their ass, again.
Wow. Solid constitutional analysis. By the way someone should probably suggest to the PGOTUS that he read the Constitution at some point. That is if he knows there is one. You and you fellow members of the Cohort are way too funny.
 

Frankfooter

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Trump is very mad today, was ranting about not playing with the dems anymore 'cuz they talked about 'the I word'.

Even had a new infographic printed out for his rant on the lawn, which twitter has already fixed.

 

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Trump is very mad today, was ranting about not playing with the dems anymore 'cuz they talked about 'the I word'.

Even had a new infographic printed out for his rant on the lawn, which twitter has already fixed.

Trump's outburst was planned beforehand.

McConnell and Mulvaney put the kibosh on the infrastructure plan prior to the planned Congressional meeting with Trump today. Something about financing the infrastructure plan was not what Republicans want and can do because the trillion dollar tax cut for the wealthy and corporations sucked out all the $$$ for it.

Funny how Congressional investigations were ongoing 3 weeks before Trump's outburst today. Funny how Trump is using "I don't do coverups" to whiteout his prison stripes.
 

Anbarandy

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Trump's playbook:

1) At first we must collude.

2) We're off to obstruct justice, the wonderful world of obstruction.

3) Cover me in a coverup.
 

jcpro

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Wow. Solid constitutional analysis. By the way someone should probably suggest to the PGOTUS that he read the Constitution at some point. That is if he knows there is one. You and you fellow members of the Cohort are way too funny.
As always, not a shred of thought on the subject.
 

toguy5252

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As always, not a shred of thought on the subject.
The problem is that unlike you I do know something about US Constitutional law and your simply spouting PGOTUS talking points so not thoughtful but rather than absence of thought.
 
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jcpro

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The problem is that unlike you I do know something about US Constitutional law and your simply spouting PGOTUS talking points os not thoughtful but rather than absence of thought.
Why don't you enlighten us, then?
 

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Trump's planned rant has backfired in a big way.

Now he's shutting down government like he did once before, guaranteeing that his government will get nothing done until he's gone, voted or impeached.

Most hilarious are the photos of Trump's 'notes' for his angry rant.
Trump notes captured by @jabinbotsford:
“They want to impeach me over acts that they did”
Dems have no achomlishments [sic]”https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...954982-7cad-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html
So incompetent.....

This is not the work of an orderly mind.

President Trump stormed into the Cabinet Room 15 minutes late Wednesday morning and immediately proceeded to blow up a long-planned meeting with Democratic leaders about an infrastructure bill. He raged against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) for the terrible, horrible things she has said about him, and he vowed not to work on any legislation until Democrats stop investigating his administration. He stomped out of the room before Democrats had a chance to reply, then marched into the Rose Garden for an unscheduled news conference — or, more accurately, a 12-minute parade of paranoia.

Positively everybody was out to get him. They were out to get him in the third person: “They hated President Trump. They hated him with a passion,” he said. They were out to get him in the first-person plural: “These people were out to get us, the Republican Party and President Trump. They were out to get us.” What’s more, they have been after him “pretty much from the time we came down the escalator in Trump Tower.” And now they probably will impeach him because they “do whatever they have to do.”


He raged on. House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) has “been an enemy of mine for many years.” The “whole thing was a takedown attempt.” The assembled press “ought to be ashamed of yourselves for the way you report it so dishonestly.” And, even though he was the one who blew up the infrastructure meeting, he just knew that Democrats were “not really thinking they wanted to do infrastructure or anything else other than investigate.”

He ricocheted randomly among inchoate thought fragments: Infrastructure. WITCH HUNT! Unemployment. NO COLLUSION! Drug prices. HOAX! A special election in Pennsylvania. ONE-SIDED HORRIBLE THING! Tax cuts. DON JR. HAS GONE THROUGH HELL! I love the American people. IMPEACHMENT! Regulations. A DISGRACE! ABUSE!

Nobody seemed to know what to make of the explosion. White House officials reportedly said they tried to stop Trump from making the Rose Garden appearance. And for good reason: With Wednesday’s public announcement that he won’t negotiate with Democrats, the president has taken ownership of the lack of progress on infrastructure and other legislation — much the way he took ownership of the government shutdown.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4498a2d357ac
 

toguy5252

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Why don't you enlighten us, then?
LOL. Why not distinguish yourself from the PGOTUS who is proud of the fact that he never reads anything and do some reading yourself. I do not intend to do your homework for you. But you may find the topic quite interesting. i did.
 
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