Royal Spa
Toronto Escorts

Hitler Was Incompetent and Lazy—and His Nazi Government Was an Absolute Clown Show

Knuckle Ball

Well-known member
Oct 15, 2017
6,829
2,838
113
And spreading untruths and half truths, even about the greatest historical murderers, serves exactly whom and to what end?
So JCPro is a Holocaust denier.

Another shocking revelation!
 
O

OnTheWayOut

Obviously you cannot be trusted by anyone, as when there is an agreement not to respond to posts, all you do is break that agreement.

You need help as you are either sick, or ignorant to what you agreed to!!
I never agreed to anything, please post what you think is this agreement.
 

jcpro

Well-known member
Jan 31, 2014
24,673
6,836
113
So JCPro is a Holocaust denier.

Another shocking revelation!
Really?! That's what you got from this thread? My quest for historical truth makes me a Holocaust denier? Moi? My mother's, pretty much, whole family was murdered by the German einsatzgruppen in the Western Ukraine. Give your head a vigorous shake. I could call you a few names, but that would be a waste of adjectives since you wouldn't understand, anyway. Stay away from an adult conversation. You ain't got the grey matter to handle it.
 

Smallcock

Active member
Jun 5, 2009
13,703
21
38
Arguing for historical accuracy doesn't mean you're promoting or defending any individual or event. To call the Nazi government incompetent is an easily verifiable lie. It's propaganda pushed by weak people who can't accept truth when that truth is morally undesirable. It may make you feel good, or high and mighty for a brief moment, but deep inside, you know that it's a lie and you can never get closure by lying to yourself. You'll always feel that unease in the back of your mind. I think deniers are motivated by genuine intentions (i.e. smash all that the Nazis represented into the dust and call them failures at everything they did so that they can never be seen as a source of inspiration) but roads to Hell have often been paved with good intentions.
 

Knuckle Ball

Well-known member
Oct 15, 2017
6,829
2,838
113
Arguing for historical accuracy doesn't mean you're promoting or defending any individual or event. To call the Nazi government incompetent is an easily verifiable lie. It's propaganda pushed by weak people who can't accept truth when that truth is morally undesirable. It may make you feel good, or high and mighty for a brief moment, but deep inside, you know that it's a lie and you can never get closure by lying to yourself. You'll always feel that unease in the back of your mind. I think deniers are motivated by genuine intentions (i.e. smash all that the Nazis represented into the dust and call them failures at everything they did so that they can never be seen as a source of inspiration) but roads to Hell have often been paved with good intentions.
So keep defending the honour of the Third Reich.

*barf*
 

Knuckle Ball

Well-known member
Oct 15, 2017
6,829
2,838
113
Really?! That's what you got from this thread? My quest for historical truth makes me a Holocaust denier? Moi? My mother's, pretty much, whole family was murdered by the German einsatzgruppen in the Western Ukraine. Give your head a vigorous shake. I could call you a few names, but that would be a waste of adjectives since you wouldn't understand, anyway. Stay away from an adult conversation. You ain't got the grey matter to handle it.

If it looks like a Holocaust denier...and it talks like a Holocaust denier...
 

jcpro

Well-known member
Jan 31, 2014
24,673
6,836
113

oldjones

CanBarelyRe Member
Aug 18, 2001
24,495
11
38
I finally opened this thread, after three pages, it was clear that my, "who cares?" wasn't universal. I'm still back thinking about the OP. To refresh:


Why did the elites so consistently underestimate him? Possibly because they weren’t actually wrong in their assessment of his competency—they just failed to realise that this wasn’t enough to stand in the way of his ambition. As it would turn out, he was really bad at running a government. As his own press chief later wrote in his memoir, "In the few years of his rule he produced the biggest confusion in government that has ever existed in a civilized state."

His government was constantly in chaos, with officials having no idea what he wanted them to do, and nobody was entirely clear who was actually in charge of what. He procrastinated wildly when asked to make difficult decisions, and would often end up relying on gut feeling, leaving even close allies in the dark about his plans. His "unreliability had those who worked with him pulling out their hair," as a confidant later wrote in his memoir. This meant that rather than carrying out the duties of state, they spent most of their time in-fighting and back-stabbing each other in an attempt to either win his approval or avoid his attention altogether, depending on what mood he was in that day.

There’s a bit of an argument among historians about whether this was a deliberate ploy on his part to get his own way, or whether he was just really, really bad at being in charge of stuff. His Press Secretary came down on the side of it being a cunning tactic to sow division and chaos—and it’s undeniable that he was very effective at that. But when you look at his personal habits, it’s hard to shake the feeling that it was just a natural result of putting a workshy narcissist in charge of a country.
There's lots more as the piece goes on: About being lazy and not doing the work, being obsessed with approval, thinking of himself first and foremost as a performer with a gift for empty catchphrases, and there is no denying the clear personality parallels between yesterday's autocrat and today's. But I got tired of even the simple edits I did to take out the proper names. It's quite amazing that so many here seem to think the original piece was about WWII.

But it is very nice to see oagre contributing again.

I guess re-fighting the battles of the past is so much more attractive than trying to actually absorb the lessons their history has for us. But guys, we live in 2019, not 1939.
 

basketcase

Well-known member
Dec 29, 2005
59,843
6,341
113
Again, yes nasty words are bad and they should be sent to the corner until they stop....
I guess you don't know enough history to get 'never forget'.
As they say about those who don't know history.....
Only Franky could downplay virulent and violent anti-semitism while claiming to be opposed to racism (and claiming it is racist to criticize Hamas).
 

basketcase

Well-known member
Dec 29, 2005
59,843
6,341
113
Arguing for historical accuracy doesn't mean you're promoting or defending any individual or event...
Yet when someone questions accuracy of statements about the Nazis after having said they think Jews control the world, it sure seems that that the quest for "accuracy" is about something other than accuracy.
 

Knuckle Ball

Well-known member
Oct 15, 2017
6,829
2,838
113
Yet when someone questions accuracy of statements about the Nazis after having said they think Jews control the world, it sure seems that that the quest for "accuracy" is about something other than accuracy.
INDEED! Not to mention the fact that smallcock et al got themselves quite worked up over these “inaccuracies” about Hitler. It seems they took it very personally.
 

Smallcock

Active member
Jun 5, 2009
13,703
21
38
You extreme lefties are going to have a hard time with this one: The Nazis are responsible for what we call the Animal Rights movement today. When you get your panties in a bunch over Chinese eating dogs, remember that it was the Nazis who were the first to condemn brutality toward animals. Let all your vegan buddies know ASAP!
 

Smallcock

Active member
Jun 5, 2009
13,703
21
38
Yet when someone questions accuracy of statements about the Nazis after having said they think Jews control the world, it sure seems that that the quest for "accuracy" is about something other than accuracy.
I don't care what it seems like to you. Argue the facts based on their merits. The Nazis were many things but incompetent and lazy they weren't. They were a strict, highly efficient, highly competent, and thoroughly dedicated regime.
 

Knuckle Ball

Well-known member
Oct 15, 2017
6,829
2,838
113
You extreme lefties are going to have a hard time with this one: The Nazis are responsible for what we call the Animal Rights movement today. When you get your panties in a bunch over Chinese eating dogs, remember that it was the Nazis who were the first to condemn brutality toward animals. Let all your vegan buddies know ASAP!
LOL...What in the name of God are you ranting about now? If you wanna eat a dog then go for it...Don’t let me stand in your way.

:rofl:
 

oldjones

CanBarelyRe Member
Aug 18, 2001
24,495
11
38
You extreme lefties are going to have a hard time with this one: The Nazis are responsible for what we call the Animal Rights movement today. When you get your panties in a bunch over Chinese eating dogs, remember that it was the Nazis who were the first to condemn brutality toward animals. Let all your vegan buddies know ASAP!
And Hitler Youth kids helped little old ladies across the street. You are actually saying we shouldn't be kind to animals and little old ladies because long-ago Nazis were? Clearly it's your cortex that's really small, not just your cock.
 

Insidious Von

My head is my home
Sep 12, 2007
38,255
6,515
113
Decided to look into Cazzelino's assertion of good policies by the Nazis.

Most of what is listed were innovations implemented by Bismarck. The Nazi's expanded the Social Program...but they did by looting Jewish wealth, gassing them and using them for medical experiments. Although not producing the same wealth as the Jews, the Nazis did the same thing to the mentally handicapped, gays and the Roma.

...so they can all go fuck their mothers.

https://listverse.com/2011/01/31/top-10-things-the-nazis-got-right/

Winston Churchill was praying for the Nazis to invade the USSR. Hitler being a maniacal, syphilitic cunt made his dreams come true.
 
Ashley Madison
Toronto Escorts