GOP Rep. Amash becomes first Republican to call for Trump's impeachment

Butler1000 said:

You continue with the simplistic argument of a binary equation here. You need to take your emotions and childish "sides" out if it.

Stone is a so what. It will have no bearing or effect on 2020. None.

As to your first statement it's simply this. I have no doubt that the 14 intelligence agencies have already determined Trump isn't compromised, or they are the most useless Intelligence agencies on the planet.

You do the actually think a Manchurian candidate could get elected do you?

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K Douglas said:

Absolutely false. He's now investigating the corruption at FBI and DOJ. As Cypress Hill said When the shit goes down ya better be ready.

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Frankfooter said:

You continue to excuse Stone's lawbreaking and working with the Russian government to fuck over the US democratic election.
Just as Mueller's report may (since its still very redacted and we don't know) show that Trump's obstruction of justice prevented Mueller from finding out for sure how much Trump owes to Russians or Putin.
Trump, like Carter Page, isn't bright enough to be a Manchurian candidate, but certainly as a chaos agent/useful idiot he has done everything that a Russian agent would want done, other than the sanctions that are out of his control.

Under Trump, Americans now don't trust their media, the FBI, the government, social media, their politicians, their CEO's and their entire democratic system.
Putin's mission accomplished.

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Butler1000 said:

Um. Mueller clearly stated no American Citizen colluded with Russia. Not one.

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“It is simply not fathomable that a Constitution that grants Congress the power to remove a President for reasons including criminal behavior would deny Congress the power to investigate him for unlawful conduct — past or present — even without formally opening an impeachment inquiry,” he wrote.

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Butler1000 said:

Doggie. I'm sorry for you. Line Frankie I'm sorry you have never gotten over the election.

But this is about politics so your above points don't matter. Pelosi is not going to impeach him. She will never have the votes for it but there is a larger reason.

She needs him as the foil for the election. Both for the Senate and the Presidency. She is playing a long game here. Occasionally sends out a bencher to scream for impeachment to keep the base riled up.

But always remember impeachment is a purely political decision.

They will continue to investigate as a means of opposition research for 2020. That is the purpose of this. They will find some things, maybe one tax irregularities that are subject to fines, and other stuff that looks bad but is legal. And that is it.

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doggystyle99 said:

You've been brainwashed since the 2016 election, as the Russian's fixed the elections to benefit their puppet Trump, and even with the election being fixed he could barely beat a candidate that was so unpopular.
I for one wanted to see Trump doing well after the election, but as soon as he was sworn into office and his tweets started coming out not only did he divide Americans more and more on a daily basis through the use of race, gender, religion, ethnicity and most important of all political beliefs but he has made a joke of the office of presidency in the U.S.A and all other nations are mocking and keeping an eye at his lies, divisiveness, misdoings, as well as his untrustworthy business and trade deals with other nations.

Make shit up as you go butler. I am sorry for you.
You first attempted to misinform with "And the argument and conspiracy has been proven wrong. And with that goes obstruction."
Now that is refuted you are on to the next point in attempting to label impeachment as a political process which is incorrect.

Facts are:
- Mueller's report didn't exonerate Trump of collusion
- He also found instances (10) of obsturction
- The result of the Mueller investigation is based on Mueller's belief (you can thank the lifelong Republican hack General Coverup Barr for this, whose points you keep on repeating) that the DOJ could not indict a sitting president and it's up to the legislative branch

Impeachment Facts:
Impeachment is not political, you've been brainwashed into thinking it is, because Republicans keep telling you so. Impeachment is a process by which the legislative branch keep government officials from committing crimes. And starting impeachment is not removal from office it's holding the politician accountable by a legislative vote.

You've been on here defending Trump for two years for his lies (regarding Russia and everything else he speaks of), and divisiveness, but yes we get it your sig actually tells us who you support
I've said it before and will say it again after the 2020 election regardless of who is in office, you'll be on here criticizing anything and everything the Democrats do and defending your supreme leader Trump for his wrongdoings.

Makeshitupasyougobutler......next point.

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Butler1000 said:

Actually it appears you are the one brainwashed by an MSM who also can't accept they were so wrong.

You really think Russia is the reason he is in office. It's amazing.

I consider this an impasse. If you can't even acknowledge the election was legit(remember when everyone said Trump would be the crazy one doing that?) Then there is no hope at this point.

You feel free to carry on with your anger and pointless hope over this.

The last Pelosi and the Dems leadership want is Trump impeached. Then they face a Pence run with a motivated voter base, which not only affects the presidency but down ballot turnout and voting patterns on both sides of the aisle.

So it won't happen. Honestly I think they would rather a Trump win rather than a Sanders one.

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Judiciary Dem: 'Most of us have been led to the position that an impeachment inquiry is warranted'

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Nadler accuses Trump of witness intimidation, threatens legal action over McGahn testimony

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'We’re at an inflection point': More Dems pressure Pelosi on impeachment
But the speaker is resisting

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Democrats pound Treasury official over Deutsche Bank, Trump

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez calls on Nancy Pelosi to abandon her "measured approach" to impeachment

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Frankfooter said:

A lot of people think Trump was elected only with the aid of Russia, not only because. There were a lot of ducks that had to be lined up and Putin hacking and releasing the dem emails was a giant rubber duck for the election.

Pelosi is holding back but she won't last for long. Trump refuses to play by the rules now so the dems will have to start an impeachment inquiry just to get him and his stooges to answer questions.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...-been-led-to-the-position-that-an-impeachment


https://thehill.com/policy/national...f-witness-intimidation-threatens-legal-action


https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/21/nancy-pelosi-impeachment-donald-trump-1337143


https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/21/democrats-deutsche-bank-trump-1461245


https://www.salon.com/2019/05/21/al...abandon-her-measured-approach-to-impeachment/

There will be an impeachment inquiry announced soon, I expect.

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Butler1000 said:

You've been saying the same thing since 2017......

That's it's "just around the corner".

It isn't.

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Questions Remain About Putin's Request for a Back Channel to the Trump Transition

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CHAIRMAN: To everyone. Was it clear to Don Jr. that he could not undertake serious steps in the campaign or business without his father’s approval?

MR. COHEN: Yes, and he knew it.

THE CHAIRMAN: And more than that, that having undertaken a step with the approval of his father, he would then be compelled to tell the father how it went.

MR. COHEN: Yes. And the reason—again, this is my opinion—the reason why Jared and Manafort were in the room at the time was because he would never let Don do that by himself. So after—this is, again, my speculation from 10 years of being around both of them.

He would turn around and say, Dad, I got a—I’m taking this meeting. Okay. He doesn’t trust him. “Make sure Jared,” who is the secretary of everything, “along with Manafort,” who was the campaign chairman at the time, “make sure that they’re in the room with you. Make sure they join.”

THE CHAIRMAN: Mr. Cohen, based on your understanding of these players within the Trump world, is it your surmise that the presence of both Kushner and Manafort at the meeting with the Russian delegation at Trump Tower was on the instructions of Donald Trump, the father?

MR. COHEN: I believe so, yes

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Frankfooter said:

And you've been saying you're really a Bernie supporter for years here.

This story has as much a chance of dying as you actually being a Bernie supporter.
Time today:


http://time.com/5592739/donald-trump-petr-aven-alfa-bank/

After the NYT bombshell about Trump losing $1 billion and the news that Deutsche Bank flagged Trump and Kushner's accounts Time thinks we should be looking into Trump, Putin and Alpha Bank again to find out why Putin was trying to establish back door channels with Trump and why Alpha Bank was pinging one of Trump's servers.

Cohen testifying on why he thinks its ridiculous to assume that Don Jr didn't tell the groper about the Trump Tower meeting.

https://qz.com/1624577/cohen-details-trumps-tortured-relationship-with-don-jr-in-new-testimony/

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Butler1000 said:

You do realize that the investigations by Mueller are fact right? That they clearly stated there was no collusion?

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eternalbachelor said:

um no this is what Barr and Trump say. Mueller meanwhile said this on page 10:

A statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does not mean there
was no evidence of those facts.
...the investigation did not establish that the
Trump Campaign coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

So Trump has just been lucky so far to not be caught red-handed. Calling this an exoneration is a dirty trick catering to his supporters who cannot read legal documents. But Trump is a crook and a cheat and maybe he will be caught - or maybe he won't, who knows.

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eternalbachelor said:

um no this is what Barr and Trump say. Mueller meanwhile said this on page 10:

A statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does not mean there
was no evidence of those facts.
...the investigation did not establish that the
Trump Campaign coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

Calling this a complete exoneration is a dirty trick catering to Trump's supporters who cannot or would not read legal documents. You may as well say that OJ Simpson was exonerated by the jury verdict.

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Butler1000 said:

Another one who won't accept the election.

It's nothing more than an Alex Jones worthy conspiracy theory.

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Frankfooter said:

Comparing a 2 year investigation with a 400 page, still redacted, FBI investigation with a Alex Jones really shows how out far in left field you've gone, butler.
Barr intentionally mischaracterized Mueller's report in an act of obstruction of justice in order to stall Trump's impeachment.

Trump's corruption includes absolutely everything you look at.
He cheats at golf
He cheats on his wife
He cheats on his taxes
He cheats the people he hires
He cheats his investors
He cheated his students at Trump U
He cheated his backers at the inauguration

There is absolutely nothing you can list that Trump does with honour or honesty.
Nothing.

Like your posts.

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Butler1000 said:

Didn't I say he wasnt qualified to be President?

Now, Mueller has clearly stated no collusion. The Election boards certified the election results. The intelligence agencies have clearly stated they can't determine any effect by the Russians on the Election.

So what you have is your opinion, some opinions, abd that's it.

Hence your having to goto ad hominim attacks again. Because you have nothing else.

Clinton lost because of what I said above, and more that had to do with her and the prevailing attitude toward establishment politics.

Your little window for impeachment is closing. In six months it closes. Even the Dem partisans won't try to impeach the last year. It will clearly be seen as a political motive, and be treated as such by the electorate.

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Butler1000 said:

Didn't I say he wasnt qualified to be President?

Now, Mueller has clearly stated no collusion.

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Butler1000 said:

You've been saying the same thing since 2017......

That's it's "just around the corner".

It isn't.

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Frankfooter said:

No he hasn't, stop lying.
Its bad enough that you admit Trump is incredibly corrupt and not qualified to be POTUS, but here you are actually lying about the Mueller report to keep defending someone you admit is incredibly corrupt.

Take a look at how much has come out with the bits of tax reveals we've had so far. We now know that Trump's father gifted the groper hundreds of millions which he cheated paying taxes on and then the groper managed to lose $1 billion over a decade. During that time we've found out that Trump five times tried to pull a pump and dump, investing minor amounts in companies, declaring he was going to do more and then dumping the stocks after the prices rose. On the sixth time he got hit bad and then the SEC hit him with a $750,000 fine.

How do you know he's not trying the same shitty tricks on the US as POTUS?
How do you know that when he tweets about a company or a tariff that he's not doing so to personally make money off the market reactions?

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Boober69 said:

You are trying to convince people who claim to stand for democracy but can't accept the outcome of a democratic election.
Same people who can't accept the outcome of a legal investigation.

It's one conspiracy after another and will not stop...not even after he wins the next election.

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