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Eleven men charged in undercover “john” sweep by Durham police

Aug 6, 2011
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Just saw this article

http://www.durhamradionews.com/arch...sW2YfFwdFTgXrp_h4TqYdaCNR9ltC5pkFW8k9eWtR3DOk

"Men looking for sex online thought they were meeting young girls, but instead, met Durham police.

A two-week undercover investigation by the DRPS Human Trafficking Unit has resulted in 11 arrests and 44 charges.

Project Chestermere 2 targeted “johns” who were looking for sexual services from 16 and 17-year-old girls. Officers posed as the girls online and made arrangements for dates at local hotels.

When the customer arrived, they were arrested.

The men range in age from 23 to 60. Most live in Durham, except for two men from Toronto and one from Quebec. They face charges including: sexual exploitation of a young person, obtaining sexual services for consideration, luring a person under 18 years of age by means of telecommunication and agreement to commit a sexual offence against a person under 18 years of age."
 

oriental fox

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This is disgusting! Why would some of these men want to see an underage girl? Good on the cops for setting up this sting and charging these guys who are into underage girls. I just can’t understand the allure to young girls, simply horrible.
 

Jasmine Raine

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This is disgusting! Why would some of these men want to see an underage girl? Good on the cops for setting up this sting and charging these guys who are into underage girls. I just can’t understand the allure to young girls, simply horrible.
Agree 1000%
 
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Just had a general question:

Could police post as SPs who are 18/19/20/21 to lure johns in and than bust them when they arrive and charge them with 16-17 year old?

If the johns were notified they were 16/17 ahead of time than they deserve it but could the police be doing that also to bust them?

Again this is just a question and we all know in 2019 people take things the wrong way lol
 

drstrangelove

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I'm sure someone would keep a text stating the age of 18+, so if the cops turned around and charged someone for attempting to meet with a minor, all of the cops credibility would be shot. Don't think they'd try this.
 

oriental fox

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I'm sure someone would keep a text stating the age of 18+, so if the cops turned around and charged someone for attempting to meet with a minor, all of the cops credibility would be shot. Don't think they'd try this.
But couldn’t they still charge the johns for attempted purchase of sex regardless of age? Is an attempt to purchase sex illegal? When the laws changed it became illegal for johns to purchase and made it legal for the girls to sell. I understand the OP was about underage girls. But it would still be illegal for johns regardless of age. Is that correct?
 

drstrangelove

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But couldn’t they still charge the johns for attempted purchase of sex regardless of age? Is an attempt to purchase sex illegal? When the laws changed it became illegal for johns to purchase and made it legal for the girls to sell. I understand the OP was about underage girls. But it would still be illegal for johns regardless of age. Is that correct?
Yes, as Jessica said, they could. I was only responding to the question asked. If they were able to catch 11 guys in only 2 weeks, hopefully they'll devote their time to these more serious crimes and leave the occasional hobbyists alone.
 

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When the laws changed it became illegal for johns to purchase and made it legal for the girls to sell.
I'm still not sure how this law makes any sense logically. Either both sides are legally doing it or both sides are illegally doing it. No?
 

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Yes. You are correct. Which is why you should find the ladies you like in places like LL and then check for reviews to at least ensure the lady is real. We have screening methods and so do you. You just have to use them.

Check here, check Twitter, check for an actual website, ads on multiple venues, reviews, etc.
I agree with Jessica's comments. I is unfortunate though that Leolist adds leave no history on the internet once expired, so background work becomes quite a chore. The adds that are used for sting operations seem quite legit. The pictures they use look appealing and seem to check out okay. They advertise the ages as 18, 19 and 20 and will only reveal that they are younger if you ask that question in communication. I don't believe that these guys who were arrested had any clue as to the age of who they were arranging to meet. When corresponding with any of the adds that post ages of 18, 19 or 20 you should always get them to confirm their age in your correspondence with them. I am pretty sure that I have corresponded with some of these sting operations and when the age issue has presented itself I have offered to meet them to take them to the authorities to report that they are being forced into prostitution. You would be surprised at some of the responses I have received. I find now that I spend a lot more time doing background work than I do actually seeing anyone.
 

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Just saw this article

http://www.durhamradionews.com/arch...sW2YfFwdFTgXrp_h4TqYdaCNR9ltC5pkFW8k9eWtR3DOk

"Men looking for sex online thought they were meeting young girls, but instead, met Durham police.

A two-week undercover investigation by the DRPS Human Trafficking Unit has resulted in 11 arrests and 44 charges.

Project Chestermere 2 targeted “johns” who were looking for sexual services from 16 and 17-year-old girls. Officers posed as the girls online and made arrangements for dates at local hotels.

When the customer arrived, they were arrested.

The men range in age from 23 to 60. Most live in Durham, except for two men from Toronto and one from Quebec. They face charges including: sexual exploitation of a young person, obtaining sexual services for consideration, luring a person under 18 years of age by means of telecommunication and agreement to commit a sexual offence against a person under 18 years of age."
people go for the underage girls because they think that they are getting something pure, virgin like, same thing when the bombers are offered 40 virgins when they agree to do something stupid- have you ever had a virgin? well I have, was both the most beautiful and frustrating time- "put your.. no put yourself there --no dont touch that - just wait a sec- ok here we go- oops, hold one, breath , now I will breath and here we go...."
 

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In fact a few years ago there was a Documentary on one of the TV Channels about a similar sting setup by the cops in the USA. They literally televised these disgusting individuals showing up at the location that was setup by the cops. There were arrests of literally dozens and dozens of these johns. The address was a private residence and at times when the johns realized that it was a sting, they took off only to be apprehended by the cops who were camouflaged around the property. On one occasion they were expecting one of these johns to show up, but there was an innocent person who was genuinely trying to reach one of the neighbours but mistook the house number and rang the bell. He was arrested but subsequently released, as he arrived at the wrong house. The actual John who noticed the cops apprehending this guy turned around and ran away. I am not sure if he got arrested in the end. This was actually a series of documentaries over a few weeks. Hopefully they can apprehend the actual pimps who traffic these underage girls.
 

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I understand that, and like I said it makes no logical sense. That's like charging the addict but not the dealer. It's either you charge both or neither.
The theory is (not that I agree) is that all SPs are victims. Therefore only the johns are bad people who must be punished.

Pimping is still illegal though.
 

Jtrills

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Might be referring to that show "Hanson vs predator." Sick ppl who deserve jail time. They went knowing they are minors.

I have one ultimate question: is it unlawful to hobby in Canada? Assuming it's consensual and everyone's an adult age?

I'm kinda worried now. I don't want to get caught!
 

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ugh...I get to hobby about 1-2 times per year. Tomorrow was possibly one of those days. Log into Terb today and see this thread. The extent of my research or screening is usually finding someone on LL that I am interested in seeing and coming here to search for them. Don't really know where else to look. Problem is that there seems to be so few reviews these days. Not sure if guys are not seeing anyone these days or they are just not posting about their experience. After seeing stuff like this I am way to nervous to see someone new or someone who hasn't been reviewed.
 

Alyosha

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If they were told the girl was underagr and still went....they deserve what they get. Good riddence. 60yo looking for a 17yo? Come on, thats just creepy. Personally, i think early to late thirties is perfect anyway. Better service from a lady that understands men....and no question if she is an adult....and less likely to be pimped.
 

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If they were told the girl was underagr and still went....they deserve what they get. Good riddence. 60yo looking for a 17yo? Come on, thats just creepy. Personally, i think early to late thirties is perfect anyway. Better service from a lady that understands men....and no question if she is an adult....and less likely to be pimped.
Just because your of age doesn't mean your not pimped. The new pimp is more smart in the way that most SP dont even know they are pimped.
I follow a lot of SP`s on IG and love there post saying..

"Im not doing this for ever, just till my man cuts his record deal and Im done"
 

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Just because your of age doesn't mean your not pimped. The new pimp is more smart in the way that most SP dont even know they are pimped.
I follow a lot of SP`s on IG and love there post saying..

"Im not doing this for ever, just till my man cuts his record deal and Im done"
I don't like seeing anyone exploited, but if women want to date a man who takes their money, what right is it of ours to care?

Are women frail, incompetent, feeble and weak creatures who can't make their own decisions, or are they not?
 
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