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JOHN_WAYNE

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I feel there is a big double standard in the industry to hygiene. I have seen a lot of twitter posts shitting on clients because of their hygiene. I personally try to be very clean before my session. I shower before and clean my teeth and mouthwash in my car before session. I properly clean myself again at the incall.

I personally am really affected by hygiene. If the sp has bad hygiene I have a problem keeping my erection.

In past 3 years have encountered a lot of bad breath and smokers breath which sucks since I prefer a more sensual session with a lot of dfk. I just not ending up kissing them and not repeating.

There also have been ladies with bad BO and also stinky pussies. Of course I complain to the agency and I usually get compensated. (usually since I am a regular) (Fuck you TDL since I am not)

There was one woman when she removed her panties, bending over trying to be sexy, had a whole piece of toilet paper in her ass cheeks. That was the first time I ever left early in a session (I was extremely turned off). In the past few years, there have been 6 ladies that excused themselves to the washroom in the middle of the session, that did not wash their hands or clean themselves properly. One lady came back with pieces of toilet paper around her pussy still.

I only do DATY with about 10% of the ladies I see, to me it is only if I trust them that they are clean. I actually love DATY and it is usually the hardest I ever get. What is making write this today, I am upset with a certain lady. She is currently a $400hr independent lady. I have seen her around 6 times now and her hygiene was always good until my last appointment. I was her first appointment and her pussy was worst I have ever smelt in my life. I am a mouth breather so I easily put off those scents. When I started to eat her out though, that was the worst thing I have ever tasted in my life. My eyes started to water and I coughed like crazy. I looked afterwards and saw a white liquid oozing out and I almost threw up. I told her during the session and she told me she would put flavoured lube on to fix it. WOW why would that fix that. I had erection problems of course.

I complained to her again after the session and she told me she did not want to see me again.
 
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koreanjames

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Your assessments overall are on point and very fair. I’ve also noticed a trend where if an SP is accused of having smelly private’s white knights will jump in saying that it’s not possible etc etc... Which is very silly and unrealistic considering this industry. It’s also impossible to know if they really did shower before your appointment.... no matter what the answer is always “yes”.

My condolences - I always politely ask the ladies to shower together regardless if it’s an 11am or 11pm appointment.
 
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niceandslo

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I have noticed quite a few with heavy breath smell ,major buzz kill especially since i only see well reviewed ladies ,so @ $300 an hour i would expect better,but its a very sensitive situation to bring up.
 
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Platon

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As far as smell from pussy is concerned well, it's a pussy it's supposed to be smelly and you can't really know what's going on deep in there. So it is totally possible for a girl to not event know she smells bad until she smells bad. I had a few of those myself, one of them was a regular (20+ sessions) and the issue became apparent a few minutes/seconds after the main event, the smell was so strong I couldn't breathe. I managed to finish quickly and was on my way. She disappeared soon after, I guess she needed a rest.

In my experience even if you mention something about white stuff or smell the girl isn't even taken off schedule. They get tested regularly (which is a good thing) so unless it's something in the test, the girl can give her vag a douche and continue.

Breath smell is also quite normal (not very pleasant for sure), especially if the girl smokes, no amount of Listerine will hide it.

Girls at 300-400 range are no different from those working with agencies and in terms of probability of running into issues may even be higher up on the scale (at least that was my experience) as they don't have agency oversight.

I have some personal rules I follow but you can still run into situations.

I never come back to girls who get dressed right after session while I'm in the shower or girls who I suspect put stuff in their pussies to make them smell/taste better (why in the world would you do something like that). Not much else you can do after that, no amount of money will guarantee anything.

My 2 cents.
 
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simba_one

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I can't overstate how important hygiene is to me. My all time favorite SP is a hygiene freak as well so we definitely align. We would always shower together after our sessions. Doesn't matter who the SP is or how hot she is, poor hygiene is a non starter for me.

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Chilinto

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Agreed, some of the ladies just don’t care to freshen up before a session. I have not repeated with them when this happens.

One of the good things about the Asian agencies, they all start off with a shower for 2 and she scrubs you down and herself.
 
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legendspirit

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Platon said:
As far as smell from pussy is concerned well, it's a pussy it's supposed to be smelly and you can't really know what's going on deep in there. So it is totally possible for a girl to not event know she smells bad until she smells bad. I had a few of those myself, one of them was a regular (20+ sessions) and the issue became apparent a few minutes/seconds after the main event, the smell was so strong I couldn't breathe. I managed to finish quickly and was on my way. She disappeared soon after, I guess she needed a rest.

In my experience even if you mention something about white stuff or smell the girl isn't even taken off schedule. They get tested regularly (which is a good thing) so unless it's something in the test, the girl can give her vag a douche and continue.

Breath smell is also quite normal (not very pleasant for sure), especially if the girl smokes, no amount of Listerine will hide it.

Girls at 300-400 range are no different from those working with agencies and in terms of probability of running into issues may even be higher up on the scale (at least that was my experience) as they don't have agency oversight.

I have some personal rules I follow but you can still run into situations.

I never come back to girls who get dressed right after session while I'm in the shower or girls who I suspect put stuff in their pussies to make them smell/taste better (why in the world would you do something like that). Not much else you can do after that, no amount of money will guarantee anything.

My 2 cents.
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In my experiences with Indy girls very few don’t put get fully dressed after the session. It’s always bugged me. One time the girl had a top that was difficult to take off due to a million buttons and she put it on right after. I’ve never had any issues with her with regards to hygiene but the thoughts do run rampant in my mind.
 
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autumn96

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legendspirit said:
In my experiences with Indy girls very few don’t put get fully dressed after the session. It’s always bugged me. One time the girl had a top that was difficult to take off due to a million buttons and she put it on right after. I’ve never had any issues with her with regards to hygiene but the thoughts do run rampant in my mind.
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I've noticed this a lot and it's terrible. Basically guarantees I will not see that lady again.

One thing we could do better as a community is naming SPs with really egregious cases of hygiene negligence. Everyone has bad days so I'm not saying we throw ladies under the bus just because they had an off day but in cases like the one the OP mentioned with a $400/hr indie girl who not only smelled bad but had an attitude about it afterwards... yeah, we need to name and shame things like that, man.

Remember, many SPs seem to use that as their go-to excuse when they get a bad review. Maybe they're not lying. But they (and some agency owners) certainly don't have any hesitation when it comes to throwing hobbyists under the bus like that, so us respectfully pointing out similar bad hygiene cases on the part of SPs is only fair.

P.S. Flavored lube to hide a disgusting pussy odor? What the hell?! That probably sums up her hygiene practices...
 
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JOHN_WAYNE said:
I only do DATY with about 10% of the ladies I see, to me it is only if I trust them that they are clean. I actually love DATY and it is usually the hardest I ever get. What is making write this today, I am upset with a certain lady. She is currently a $400hr independent lady. I have seen her around 6 times now and her hygiene was always good until my last appointment. I was her first appointment and her pussy was worst I have ever smelt in my life. I am a mouth breather so I easily put off those scents. When I started to eat her out though, that was the worst thing I have ever tasted in my life. My eyes started to water and I coughed like crazy. I looked afterwards and saw a white liquid oozing out and I almost threw up. I told her during the session and she told me she would put flavoured lube on to fix it. WOW why would that fix that. I had erection problems of course.

I complained to her again after the session and she told me she did not want to see me again.
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I have always touted an increased lack of accountability when dealing with indies as opposed to agencies for my preference to deal with the latter.
 
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myst1cal

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Preach on! I've also had similar experiences in the past.

Here is a public service announcement for everyone regarding oral hygiene please pick up one of these at your local walmart for 5-10 bucks and start using it.



Your Tongue and the back of your throat breeds the most amount of bacteria in your mouth and is responsible for bad breath. Brushing your teeth alone does not help, nor does using mouth wash. I can't tell you the amount of times I've come across ladies with terrible breath, it literally kills the entire session from the get go and mouth wash does very little to cover it up.

And for the poor ladies who have to deal with men with terrible breath on a daily basis(omg), the only words that come to mind is courageous and heroic. LOL

my 2cents :yo:
 
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niceandslo

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I wish i knew how to link a twitter post. Cassandra cox has a small video on how to shower ,check it out its really good.
 
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spraggamuffin

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Unfortunately we cannot smell our own breath very well.
We can certainly sniff under our arms etc but some people may have become accustomed or immune to the smell.
Some people may also like their own smell while it may be off-putting to others.
Unfortunately many are not prudent in hygiene out of consideration.
Good post by OP on the double standard aspect.
Maybe women feel that men desire their pussy more than they desire men's money so they are in control and can do whatever.
While men must follow every guideline stipulated.
Some ethnicities may smell more than others due to things like diet, body hair etc.
So I imagine some people may shower and not stay fresh as long as others either.
 
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autumn96

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myst1cal said:
And for the poor ladies who have to deal with men with terrible breath on a daily basis(omg), the only words that come to mind is courageous and heroic. LOL
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I couldn't even imagine

I feel bad for em, some of the shit (literally and figuratively) they must have to deal with

wash 'yo selves, people!
 
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Jasmine Raine

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niceandslo said:
I wish i knew how to link a twitter post. Cassandra cox has a small video on how to shower ,check it out its really good.
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Here you go!

It is awesome. Lol
https://twitter.com/thecassandracox/status/1129207494956523521

autumn96 said:
I couldn't even imagine

I feel bad for em, some of the shit (literally and figuratively) they must have to deal with

wash 'yo selves, people!
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Your PM box is full. I did try to return yours. Thanks for your yours though.
 
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superstar_88

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niceandslo said:
I have noticed quite a few with heavy breath smell ,major buzz kill especially since i only see well reviewed ladies ,so @ $300 an hour i would expect better,but its a very sensitive situation to bring up.
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that's penis breath from all the bbbj
 
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superstar_88 said:
that's penis breath from all the bbbj
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I have only met two providers that use mouthwash, which is visible in the bathroom and or use a wet wipe to clean the little guy.
I say little guy beacuse if I said big guy nobody would believe me. :biggrin:
 
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