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Italy’s Salvini says Merkel, Macron have ‘ruined’ the European Union

Zaibetter

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I thought this was about illegal immigrants, the ones that Trudeau has no control of crossing the border, the ones escaping the Groper and his anti-Immigrant US.
Aren't you guys all upset about illegal immigrants, the ones escaping Trump's policies?
You can't get anything right LOL
 

bver_hunter

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I thought this was about illegal immigrants, the ones that Trudeau has no control of crossing the border, the ones escaping the Groper and his anti-Immigrant US.
Aren't you guys all upset about illegal immigrants, the ones escaping Trump's policies?
LOL, That is funny. Wonder if the illegal immigrants were citizens from Italy and France and were escaping from the Extreme Right Wing Governments who are elected or maybe elected. Would the right wingers in Canada have any objection to them arriving here where it is more sane, in comparison to the hate mongering that these people will be subjected to???
 

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Just to educate those who make some random statements that Mussolini is a "Left Wing Socialist", well he is not!!

Fascism is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
LOL! Can't rewrite history, darling. Mussolini was an ardent socialist and a leading Italian socialist at that. The Italian fascism that he created was built on the socialist foundation with an economic twist. The alternative, at the time, was the bolshevism which was simply a nightmare that could not be adopted to the Italian society. Had Mussolini taken a page from Franco's playbook, he'd never end up hanging upside down at the gas station.
 

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LOL, That is funny. Wonder if the illegal immigrants were citizens from Italy and France and were escaping from the Extreme Right Wing Governments who are elected or maybe elected. Would the right wingers in Canada have any objection to them arriving here where it is more sane, in comparison to the hate mongering that these people will be subjected to???
Those illegal immigrants are escaping countries devastated by climate change, war and despots (quite a few of those countries at the hand of US policy they keep backing).
They support the policies that drive people from their homes and then whine when they try to come here or there.
 

nottyboi

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Wrong. Trudeau needs to show some balls and kick these migrants out as soon as they cross the border instead of wasting millions of taxpayer dollars coddling them.
Legislation has already been passed in this regard. Canada will no longer accept refugee claimants from the US.
 

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Legislation has already been passed in this regard. Canada will no longer accept refugee claimants from the US.
When did this legislation receive Royal Assent? I heard something contrary which may or may not be true.
 

bver_hunter

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LOL! Can't rewrite history, darling. Mussolini was an ardent socialist and a leading Italian socialist at that. The Italian fascism that he created was built on the socialist foundation with an economic twist. The alternative, at the time, was the bolshevism which was simply a nightmare that could not be adopted to the Italian society. Had Mussolini taken a page from Franco's playbook, he'd never end up hanging upside down at the gas station.
Sure he was initially a Socialist who denounced Italy's stance in the first world war. But then he changed his views and supported Italy for taking that role in the First World War. He was then expelled by the Socialist Party for his far right wing views and then united all the far right parties to form the Fascist Party. He formed the Far Right "Black Shirts" that terrorized the other Political parties and helped to increase the fascist influence. In 1922 he was established as the PM of Italy and dismantled all the democratic institutions. Mussolini toed Hitler's policies with discrimination against the Jews and invasions of Ethiopia and Greece. So he was a far right Fascist!!
 

bver_hunter

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Those illegal immigrants are escaping countries devastated by climate change, war and despots (quite a few of those countries at the hand of US policy they keep backing).
They support the policies that drive people from their homes and then whine when they try to come here or there.
Generally most if not all the immigrants who come to Canada are those that are wealthy. They have added billions of dollars to the Canadian economy. This is something that the anti-immigrant ones never like to acknowledge. The ones who are refugees unfortunately have had to fled with just their own personal belongings and very little in terms of their own investments. Thankfully, they have not succumbed to brutal violence and killings. These are the ones that need our help. No doubt one day they will repay their assistance many times over when they work hard and thrive to repay the Canadian Government back in terms of taxes and investments.
 

Frankfooter

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Generally most if not all the immigrants who come to Canada are those that are wealthy. They have added billions of dollars to the Canadian economy. This is something that the anti-immigrant ones never like to acknowledge. The ones who are refugees unfortunately have had to fled with just their own personal belongings and very little in terms of their own investments. Thankfully, they have not succumbed to brutal violence and killings. These are the ones that need our help. No doubt one day they will repay their assistance many times over when they work hard and thrive to repay the Canadian Government back in terms of taxes and investments.
Agreed, its actually fairly hard if you're not coming from a targeted country, you need 5 people supporting your application.
The only ones we really need to worry about are those escaping Trump to the south of us and coming here illegally.
 

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A Nigerian asking for asylum bites a policeman with such force to take off part of his finger. This is where Salvini shines: We'll use a Decree to expel him.

He hurled himself at a policeman and bit him with one hand so hard he bit a part of his finger. It happened this morning in the Turin police headquarters . The author of the gesture is a 23-year-old Nigerian asylum seeker who did not want to undergo identification procedures. The young man was arrested. And the brutality of the attack surrounded him with controversy and protests. "Thanks to the security decree, he can be expelled," announces the deputy premier Matteo Salvini, referring to the measure under discussion in the Council of Ministers these days: "Intervening - he says - is also urgent to guarantee more powers and more protection for the police. No tolerance for criminals ".

https://www.ilmessaggero.it/italia/...PTG-uvBBi36tao_NMcpUZ-LPbXTmgMJzt-E4FHcRQdvQc
 
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