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Do you consider your all-time regular as a friend?

Would you consider your all-time regular as a friend?

  • Yes

    Votes: 48 62.3%
  • No

    Votes: 29 37.7%

  • Total voters
    77

Tashki

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Hobbyists, think about your all-time favourite that you have known for months, or even years. You genuinely love spending time with her. You get excited every single time your requested appointment gets confirmed. She leaves you fully satisfied in every session. Would you consider her your friend? SPs, think about your #1 regular client that has spent the most money on you, would you consider him your friend?
 

bazokajoe

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I have to say no. I see this industry as a business. If ladies I see want to stay in touch outside of visits that's fine,but I am not naive enough to think we will stay friends once they leave the industry. I feel once they leave they will want to cut the cord with everyone they had a date with.
 

oil&gas

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Ghawar
What is an all time regular? My all time favourite
MPA is the one what gave me a BBBJ in a time when
even light kissing could pass as high mileage. But
she wasn't my regular for long.
 

oil&gas

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Ghawar
SPs, think about your #1 regular client that has spent the most money on you, would you consider him your friend?
In all likelihood the all time ABM would lose contact with
his all time favourite upon her retirement.
 

penelopebloom

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some of my clients i for sure would consider friends or people i care about deeply, especially the ones who i share intimate details with and those who share intimate details with me. i think the best part of this line of work is getting to know all the different guys who i meet - and there's no better time to share your deepest, darkest secrets than in bed with a naked woman!
 

autumn96

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I don’t repeat often but in the case of women I have repeated with multiple times and been very friendly with, I’d say no. There’s always been a line that prevents us from crossing into true “friendship” territory.

On my end it might be partially how I avoid catching feelings for SPs, although I didn’t consciously think of it like that until just now LOL!
 

luvyeah

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I must make clear that there are good people on both sides. "Some Very Fine People on Both Sides"

However,

When the money stops the whole arrangement falls apart.
True friendship doesn't, cannot and will not involve money.

I don't think any party would be content, given how they met.
 

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I must make clear that there are good people on both sides. "Some Very Fine People on Both Sides"

However,

When the money stops the whole arrangement falls apart.
True friendship doesn't, cannot and will not involve money.

I don't think any party would be content, given how they met.
I disagree with this opinion. You can have both coexist. If you make friends and evolve into deep friends you can still continue the business transactions. i.e. I’d rather pay a friend to give me a massage and stroke my dick if she is in this business already than meeting complete strangers each time and wasting time going through the trial and learning process. If her business stops I cannot see why you still can’t maintain the friend connection provided both are willing. We are talking about friends here not marriage material. So why not? What’s the blockage?
 
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luvyeah

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I disagree with this opinion. You can have both coexist. If you make friends and evolve into deep friends you can still continue the business transactions. i.e. I’d rather pay a friend to give me a massage and stroke my dick if she is in this business already than meeting complete strangers each time and wasting time going through the trial and learning process. If her business stops I cannot see why you still can’t maintain the friend connection provided both are willing. We are talking about friends here not marriage material. So why not? What’s the blockage?
Sure you can coexist and be friendly to each other as you can with all people you meet. But what do you mean by making friends, being friendly and being a friend are different things. The whole reason you met was so that one party would be paid and the other be treated nice, if one didnt hold up their end of the bargin it wouldn't work, this goes against everything that is defined as a friendship.

It's beyond me how one could be naiive and delusional enough to think that paying someone to be your friend would make them your friend.

However, I'm now really interested and would like to understand how this is possible or how one rationalizes it.
 

autumn96

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I disagree with this opinion. You can have both coexist. If you make friends and evolve into deep friends you can still continue the business transactions. i.e. I’d rather pay a friend to give me a massage and stroke my dick if she is in this business already than meeting complete strangers each time and wasting time going through the trial and learning process. If her business stops I cannot see why you still can’t maintain the friend connection provided both are willing. We are talking about friends here not marriage material. So why not? What’s the blockage?
I think this sums it up for me personally:

If I like you as a person and enjoy fucking you, why would I not want to become more than friends at some point? There's a reason, either on my side or yours, and that reason will probably push us apart at some point. Even if the reason is just as simple as "I don't attach that much meaning to sex," I'm probably going to get distracted by someone else sooner rather than later.

But I envy those who can fuck their friends and just keep being normal friends like that!
 

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LOL you started off well but than your reply went to shit in the second part. Maybe you never experienced deep friendships.

You don’t choose who to develop a deep connection with. It chooses you, it develops over time and grows. It doesn’t matter if she works at the library, dentist office, is an MPA or SP, or you met her in the grocery store or park. Your problem is that you judge her and thus block yourself out of experiencing deep friendships. With a comment like that you have no idea what it is to be deep friends. People like you can’t comprehend that it is possible just to be friends with a woman and develop deep connections without the physical intimacy.

There are many guys on here that have confirmed they maintain friendship way past the point the girl has left the industry and were even invited to their wedding because they developed a true plutonic friendship. Have you ever experienced this? Likely not.

I still remain friends with one of my ATF’s even though she has stopped being MPA since 2013 and we stopped the MPA part.

Its sad that you never got to experience true dynamic deep friendship that has no expectations and limitations. Such a lonely life.

Many of the guys who hobby are married. They hobby because they cannot get enough sex. Do you think we want to make friends and cause complications in our life and create unnecessary drama. Why do you think we want to put ourselves in this situation? Like I said in the beginning, true friendship chooses you, you don’t choose it.

Sure you can coexist and be friendly to each other as you can with all people you meet. But what do you mean by making friends, being friendly and being a friend are different things. The whole reason you met was so that one party would be paid and the other be treated nice, if one didnt hold up their end of the bargin it wouldn't work, this goes against everything that is defined as a friendship.

It's beyond me how one could be naiive and delusional enough to think that paying someone to be your friend would make them your friend.

However, I'm now really interested and would like to understand how this is possible or how one rationalizes it.
 

VERYBADBOY

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By definition clearly it's a NO, by my personal experiences it's also a NO, best level of relationship would be a category of acquaintance and that is clearly an illusion, being practical she sees you as a revenue stream.

As it is, it's hard enough for men and women to let alone be or remain friends ... I'm married and there are a lot of females within our circle but it's the men who I count as friends and their wives/gf as acquaintances, in the workplace it's the same and I keep it professional therefore the males tend to bond together.

I've been down this friends road with mpa/sp it always ends the same, not saying that it can happen but it would be rare.

VBB
 

sc4bll

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Although it's a business and sometime there's a transaction. There are other times that we hook up and just hang out off the clock and just keep each other company a walk in the park or meet for a bite to eat.
 

luvyeah

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LOL you started off well but than your reply went to shit in the second part. Maybe you never experienced deep friendships.

You don’t choose who to develop a deep connection with. It chooses you, it develops over time and grows. It doesn’t matter if she works at the library, dentist office, is an MPA or SP, or you met her in the grocery store or park. Your problem is that you judge her and thus block yourself out of experiencing deep friendships. With a comment like that you have no idea what it is to be deep friends. People like you can’t comprehend that it is possible just to be friends with a woman and develop deep connections without the physical intimacy.

There are many guys on here that have confirmed they maintain friendship way past the point the girl has left the industry and were even invited to their wedding because they developed a true plutonic friendship. Have you ever experienced this? Likely not.

I still remain friends with one of my ATF’s even though she has stopped being MPA since 2013 and we stopped the MPA part.

Its sad that you never got to experience true dynamic deep friendship that has no expectations and limitations. Such a lonely life.

Many of the guys who hobby are married. They hobby because they cannot get enough sex. Do you think we want to make friends and cause complications in our life and create unnecessary drama. Why do you think we want to put ourselves in this situation? Like I said in the beginning, true friendship chooses you, you don’t choose it.
You have started to project, I guess I triggered you by saying that you are naive and delusional, I apologize, I should attack the idea and not you. However, you don't do much better.

I can agree with you on friendship choosing you, not you choosing it.
Although, I hate to see someone have a warped perception thinking just because someone isnt asking for money now or favours now doesn't have ulterior motives.
I think erring on the side of caution is the best to keep the relationship from spoiling.
Given how it started, both parties want something and know exatly what they want, who is to say this will magically stop?
You lose the freedom to allow things to just be, but you gain the freedom of not being inclined and compelled to do anything for them.

If you can develope a true plutonic friendship as you state, then the power to you both and I envy you.

I just find it very unlikely and rare it could evolve to this given how it started.
 

peter4025

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I don’t see the reason why you can’t become friends with a sw. two of my best friends are sw. one is retired and the other one is working still. We get together several times a month and Im even friend with their boyfriends. However, after we became good friends the sex part ended. We value our friendship too much.
 

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I can see how this mind set can hurt people especially the ones that are lonely and needing validation. I see what you are trying to say and understand why people are so against it and treat it like taboo. Same reason the owners frown upon MP/SP who get emotionally attached to client, and why so many working girls preach against it and look down upon girls that get attached and cant separate the business.

I am looking at it from my experiences and bias and therefore I support it, if it happens but I agree I don’t encourage anyone to seek friends from an SP/MPA since they are just asking for problems and probably signal deep rooted problems and social dysfunction within. Also working girls are smart at sensing the clients and if they choose they can lure, bait and string the clients along because they sense with ease which clients are most vulnerable. Not the majority however many have ridiculous high emotional intelligence and experience with clients and can manipulate the clients at their will because they view the client as loser lol

However friendship does happen and is not rare as it seems, but I agree don’t seek it and don’t except it. There are ways to tell if she is your genuine friend such as if she invites you to her condo and makes dinner for you and doesn’t expect anything from you. Or if she quits the business but is still excited to talk to you and share her life and keep in contact and is interested in your life and your well being and is open to sharing her life. It depends on her and how far she is willing to take the connection.

However if the client has no expectations other than whats on the menu than there is no loss. Its a dynamic and sometimes very complex relationship happens when you are running the friend and business in parallel however also a very exciting and unique experience.



You have started to project, I guess I triggered you by saying that you are naive and delusional, I apologize, I should attack the idea and not you. However, you don't do much better.

I can agree with you on friendship choosing you, not you choosing it.
Although, I hate to see someone have a warped perception thinking just because someone isnt asking for money now or favours now doesn't have ulterior motives.
I think erring on the side of caution is the best to keep the relationship from spoiling.
Given how it started, both parties want something and know exatly what they want, who is to say this will magically stop?
You lose the freedom to allow things to just be, but you gain the freedom of not being inclined and compelled to do anything for them.

If you can develope a true plutonic friendship as you state, then the power to you both and I envy you.

I just find it very unlikely and rare it could evolve to this given how it started.
 

Beachguy

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Absolutely my atf and I are friends, for the few hours I spend with her each month. After that I don't even exist to her and I'm good with that.
 

hungcornhole

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yes, have 2 ATF's. Spend hours just talking before and after learning about each other. exchanging messages, vacation pics etc if we don't see each other. have gone for lunch, dinners, movies together. sometimes just hanging out with no sex.
 

fall

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An easy test: ask if the SP want to go to a bar with you off the clock. And just to confirm that it is genuine and not an investment in future appointments, repeat the bar thing a few times without paid appointments in between
 

malata

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any girl that can make me cum like a king is my friend. Anything else beyond the bedroom, is earned


 
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