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havingfun

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Everybody can agree that scum-of-the-earth white supremacists are vile examples of humanity. However, it makes me shake my head when I hear members of minority groups disparaging members of other minorities. Chinese putting down Blacks, Blacks putting down Jews, Jews putting down Chinese and on and on ....
 

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No one religious, ethnic or racial group has a monopoly on racism/ or other forms of discrimination, nor is any one group free of it.
 

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It happens because of peoples need to tribe and belong to groups. This is explained well in the coding of the American mind.

Anyone who supports bullshit groups and tribes including religion, politics, and CULTure is responsible for this. Some are on the other side of the spectrum and some are full extremist however we all contribute to this even in an insignificant way we give it strength. People have no choice where they are born however they do have a choice how they label and segregate themselves.

There is only one solution which is the universal system based on a universal principles and consciousness. The next evolution from pure animal instinct to tribed humans to universal collective.

We are not there yet, its hard not to be a part of these tribes although many people are trying and making progress breaking free from these limitations. People like Nikola Tesla shed light on this universal core and understood these principles however this universal consciousness concept has been around for a long time and keeps creeping in throughout our time.

 

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If alot of these minorities were in power, there would be genocide on a mass scale. We have it easy and good with the current set up.
 

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Jealousy and envy are very powerful base emotions and one of the the root causes of fighting amongst ourselves.
Many see someone/an ethnicity etc experiencing a privilege unfairly, have more than they do, better off than they are in some form or fashion and well the rest is history.
Very few take the high road and realize what does not kill can only make you stronger, and endeavour to work towards what they want instead of expecting unmerited handouts/rewards etc like other groups.
Some traits are unchangeable or much harder to change like skin color, what's considered outer beauty by society etc, and so it frustrates those not content with or thankful for what they already have ,or who can never measure up.
 

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Tribalism has existed amongst humans since the beginning of time.

It's all about protection of territory, food sources, our women, etc. Not to mention the fear that a more powerful tribe will take those things from us and make us their slaves.

Re Blacks and Jews. Jews fought for black civil rights and marched with them in the South, but on the negative perception side were also their landlords and shopkeepers, especially in the northern US. Also Jews of my parent's generation would have been quite dismayed if their daughter or son brought home a black boyfriend or girlfriend. Then there's the "schvartze" epithet, which thankfully is never used by my generation and younger Jews.

On the other hand I would never have thought to call a black person a negative name, but was called "Goldberg" by a young black man in Minneapolis when I started beating him in a $2 game of "9 ball" back in my pool hustling days. That was the last game we played...
 

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Tribalism has existed amongst humans since the beginning of time.

It's all about protection of territory, food sources, our women, etc. Not to mention the fear that a more powerful tribe will take those things from us and make us their slaves.

Re Blacks and Jews. Jews fought for black civil rights and marched with them in the South, but on the negative perception side were also their landlords and shopkeepers, especially in the northern US. Also Jews of my parent's generation would have been quite dismayed if their daughter or son brought home a black boyfriend or girlfriend. Then there's the "schvartze" epithet, which thankfully is never used by my generation and younger Jews.

On the other hand I would never have thought to call a black person a negative name, but was called "Goldberg" by a young black man in Minneapolis when I started beating him in a $2 game of "9 ball" back in my pool hustling days. That was the last game we played...
Apparently in the days of segregation, white-owned shops, restaurants, and apartment buildings would not do business with the black community. However, many Jewish business owners stepped in to fill this need. Unfortunately, many in the black community were frequently left feeling that they had been gouged or otherwise exploited by the Jews doing business with them, hence the residual animosity today from blacks towards the Jewish community.
 

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I grew up in rural Quebec where all my friends and neighbors were white. Us kids were all taught Christian values. Does that make me a bad person?

Regarding that comment by the other member about blacks and Jewish shopkeepers, fast forward to the past 30 years and Jewish shopkeepers have been replaced by Korean shopkeepers. During the "Rodney King riot", blacks targeted Korean stores and only stopped when they saw the Koreans on the roofs of their stores pointing long guns at the potential looters.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/28/us/la-riots-korean-americans/index.html

During the Raj, it was all the British could do to stop the Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs from killing each other.
 

derrick76

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Everybody can agree that scum-of-the-earth white supremacists are vile examples of humanity. However, it makes me shake my head when I hear members of minority groups disparaging members of other minorities. Chinese putting down Blacks, Blacks putting down Jews, Jews putting down Chinese and on and on ....
Bigger people vs Skinny people, Tall vs Short, Colourism (aka Dark skin vs Light skin within one racial group) etc etc.

It would be good not to conflate all of this the institution of racism...what some would call real racism. The one that involves the power dynamic.

A dude telling you that you're this or that because you belong to a particular group is very different from being denied access (or making that access extremely difficult) because your race, ethnicity and so on.

As for minority groups supposedly fighting each other. You could go into the concept of divide and conquer as employed the ones in power. How people at the bottom fighting among themselves for the left overs or stepping on each other reach closer to the exalted ones and their status, etc etc.?

This world is a funny place, with the way how things played out. Is Haiti still paying France for defeating the slave owners and winning their freedom? What was the bill for that again? Funny how that one worked out eh??? Let's not really downplay the supremacy. It's more than just a bit of bickering and some 'You're so black, I can't see you at night' or 'If you want to hide something from a black guy put it in a book' or 'Asians are bad drivers' insensitivity. Well, the 2nd one was an actual practice during slavery. My bad.
 

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Jealousy and envy are very powerful base emotions and one of the the root causes of fighting amongst ourselves.
Many see someone/an ethnicity etc experiencing a privilege unfairly, have more than they do, better off than they are in some form or fashion and well the rest is history.
Very few take the high road and realize what does not kill can only make you stronger, and endeavour to work towards what they want instead of expecting unmerited handouts/rewards etc like other groups.
Some traits are unchangeable or much harder to change like skin color, what's considered outer beauty by society etc, and so it frustrates those not content with or thankful for what they already have ,or who can never measure up.
True, and seeing this limits them to reach their potential because they are stuck in the past and consumed and limited through these emotions you highlight. Many of these people are stuck through the confines of their past and can’t see past that. However hope, love and faith are much stronger than jealousy, envy fear, and greed.

The one thing that we have different than our ancestors who needed to tribe for survival is access to unlimited information through the internet.

Many people don’t need to tribe anymore to survive and make a living. In multicultural societies like the GTA it takes hard work, persistence, willingness to learn systems and understand and stick to laws to function without these personal growth constraints. Yes there is many unfair situations however there is always a way to get past and around these limitations and brute force is not the best solution. People have a choice now to break free from these limiting tribes, groups, religions and cultural confines. They are free to be who they want without limitations and having others and their past limit their being and potential. However many times fear, jealousy, greed envy, their past etc. hold them back. Yes I know something about this through personal experience and having been subjected to “ethical cleansing” techniques during war and seeing what happens to villages and the people especially the fallout after.

One way to get past these limitations is to live based on universal principles founded on love for humanity and the universal consciousness. This movement is on the raise and will eventually dominate once people wake up and get sick of the control and limitations imposed on them from their birth. We are very lucky because we have access to a lot of knowledge not previously available to the general population through the internet. We don’t need to listen to fiction anymore passed down to us from our brainwashed ancestors based on our vulnerability of faith in loved ones. We don’t need to listen to corrupted false self proclaimed prophets anymore and can discover our own truth, spirituality and purpose. The undermining is already happening.

 

Nathan 88

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It seems like every group has their own prejudices, white people are no more or less racist than most other groups. Maybe one day we can all overcome these feelings and live together in harmony, But that day won’t be for a very long time as you can see from some of the posts on this topic.
 

Smallcock

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It would be good not to conflate all of this the institution of racism...what some would call real racism. The one that involves the power dynamic.
This is the dumbest post of the year. A broke Chinese man putting down Blacks is REAL racism, regardless of the power dynamic. Save your abstract academic definitions of "real" racism for people stupid enough to believe it.

'Institutional racism' exists everywhere, and to a greater degree, outside of the USA/Canada. Go to Mexico, India, China, Russia, Albania, Japan, for a first hand experience.
 

derrick76

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This is the dumbest post of the year. A broke Chinese man putting down Blacks is REAL racism, regardless of the power dynamic. Save your abstract academic definitions of "real" racism for people stupid enough to believe it.

'Institutional racism' exists everywhere, and to a greater degree, outside of the USA/Canada. Go to Mexico, India, China, Russia, Albania, Japan, for a first hand experience.
The post is too smart for a smallbrain like yourself. If you think I care about a broke Chinese man telling me he must be better than me at mathematics, you are the one who is dumb and clueless.

Now if I am denied access to housing, education, job opportunities and basic civil liberties then I will very much care. That's for damn sure.

People will use their mouth to insult others for a variety of reason - dark, ugly, short, fat, dense etc etc. "Mouth mek fi talk". Words can only do so much. Policies and abuse of power as it relates to these is different matter. They can affect various aspects of one's life.

BTW: Let's stick to USA and Canada. Stop trying to deflect.
 

derrick76

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It seems like every group has their own prejudices, white people are no more or less racist than most other groups. Maybe one day we can all overcome these feelings and live together in harmony, But that day won’t be for a very long time as you can see from some of the posts on this topic.
How can everyone live in harmony when racism isn't just about "feelings"?
 

Smallcock

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The post is too smart for a smallbrain like yourself. If you think I care about a broke Chinese man telling me he must be better than me at mathematics, you are the one who is dumb and clueless.

Now if I am denied access to housing, education, job opportunities and basic civil liberties then I will very much care. That's for damn sure.

People will use their mouth to insult others for a variety of reason - dark, ugly, short, fat, dense etc etc. "Mouth mek fi talk". Words can only do so much. Policies and abuse of power as it relates to these is different matter. They can affect various aspects of one's life.

BTW: Let's stick to USA and Canada. Stop trying to deflect.
I'm not going to play your game. You lay out some bogus position and then I have to spend an evening posting on TERB schooling you. We've done this many, many times before. No, not again.

But as a parting gift, please share with us the time that you or anyone you know in Canada were denied housing, education, job opportunities, or basic civil liberties based on race. Note that these examples need to be the institutional kind of racism, not the Chinese man who won't rent his basement apartment to you, since that kind of racism doesn't matter.
 

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If alot of these minorities were in power, there would be genocide on a mass scale. We have it easy and good with the current set up.
You are right. That is why you should get your genocide done early the way the English, French, Portuguese, Spanish, Italians, Russian, and the Germans did.
 
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