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Warren calls for House to begin impeachment proceedings

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) on Friday called for the House to begin impeachment proceedings against President Trump, wading into a topic that other 2020 White House hopefuls have so far been wary of discussing.

Warren issued the call one day after the release of special counsel Robert Mueller's report on his investigation into the 2016 election and the Trump campaign.

Warren in particular cited a portion of Mueller's report in which he wrote that Congress has the authority to conduct obstruction of justice investigations, saying that such probes can provide a check if a president is corrupt.

"Mueller put the next step in the hands of Congress: 'Congress has authority to prohibit a President's corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice.' The correct process for exercising that authority is impeachment," she said in an email announcing her position.


Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel scoffed at Warren's comments, saying Trump "was just exonerated after two years of Democrat lies."

"Democrats' calls for impeachment have been bogus all along, but Elizabeth Warren is proving how truly desperate they are to appeal to their radical base," McDaniel said.

Democratic leaders have largely shied away from calling for Trump's impeachment, though several lawmakers have raised the prospect in the wake of the release of Mueller's report, which did not establish that there was collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia during the election but detailed multiple instances of potential obstruction of justice.

While the special counsel investigation did not establish that the Trump campaign conspired with the Russian government to influence the 2016 election, the report reveals how investigators grappled with the question of whether the president could be credibly accused of obstructing justice.

Prosecutors ultimately declined to say whether Trump should be charged in the probe, but stopped short of exonerating him. Attorney General William Barr has declined to pursue a case against the president.

Democratic presidential contenders have so far been reluctant to address the question of whether Congress should initiate impeachment proceedings against Trump, fearing that doing so could energize the president's supporters and isolate many of the moderate and independent-minded voters that Democrats are hoping to win over in 2020.

On the campaign trail, candidates have rarely faced questions about the matter, and their advisers frequently point out that voters appear far more interested in kitchen table issues, such as health care and taxes, than in the intrigue surrounding Mueller's investigation.

In calling for impeachment proceedings to begin, Warren broke from the rest of the Democratic field.

Former Rep. Beto O'Rourke (D-Texas), another 2020 hopeful, cast doubt on the prospect of impeachment on Thursday.

"I don't know that impeachment and those proceedings in the House and potential trial in the Senate is going to answer those questions for people," O'Rourke told reporters.

Some candidates have seized on the Mueller report's release to bolster their claim that the White House under Trump has been thrust into a state of chaos, while others have targeted Barr, arguing that his defense of the president in the face of Mueller's report undermined his credibility as a law enforcement official.

"If Barr believed in the rule of law, he'd let the report speak for itself, not hold a news conference to spin it on the President's behalf," Rep. Eric Swalwell (Calif.), who is also seeking the Democratic presidential nod, said Thursday.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) and other members of Democratic House leadership have dismissed the idea of trying to remove Trump from office, saying such an effort lacks bipartisan support. But liberal members of the caucus have repeatedly pushed the idea.

Freshman Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) introduced a resolution last month calling for the House to examine whether Trump committed impeachable offenses. At the time it, only one other lawmaker, Rep. Al Green (D-Texas), had signed on.

Green has also in the past introduced his own articles of impeachment, which failed on the House floor but garnered the support of approximately 60 Democratic lawmakers.

On Thursday, following the release of Mueller's report, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) said she would also sign on to the latest impeachment resolution.

Under the Constitution, impeachment proceedings must begin in the House. If the House votes to impeach a president, a trial is then held in the Senate, with the votes of two-thirds of senators necessary to remove the commander in chief from office.
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Warren is going after trump aggressively. She is also pursuing the endorsement of the Far Left Wing of the Party such as Tlaib and #AOC to win the Dem nomination. I agree with her strategy.
 

Smallcock

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She just needs to go away.

Just another nobody whose claim to fame is being anti-Trump, oh, and a fake Native.
 

jcpro

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She needs something, anything to get back in the race. The fake Indian shtick doesn't seem to be working.
 
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Rather than do something productive, the libs still are chasing their tails. Most rational people would have learned by now this is not useful, nor painting them in a good light. What a waste.
 

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Rather than do something productive, the libs still are chasing their tails. Most rational people would have learned by now this is not useful, nor painting them in a good light. What a waste.
She is going after the Dem nomination. Impeachment is popular with the Dem base.
 

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She is going after the Dem nomination. Impeachment is popular with the Dem base.
Well the ‘I Do Not Remember’ / I have No recollection POTUS: Trump Gave a Familiar Reply to the Special Counsel’s Queries
President Trump has boasted at various points that he has “one of the great memories of all time” or even “the world’s greatest memory.”

But the world’s greatest memory failed him repeatedly when prosecutors asked him those classic questions from decades of presidential scandals — what did he know and when did he know it?

Mr. Trump refused for more than a year to be interviewed by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, and in the end agreed to respond to questions only in writing. Even then, with the help of his lawyers, the president found it difficult to summon details from his presidential campaign in 2016 that might shed light on what happened.

More than 30 times, he told the prosecutors that he had no memory of what they were asking about, employing several formulations to make the same point.

“I do not remember.”
“I do not recall.”
“I have no recollection.”
“I have no independent recollection.”
“I have no current recollection.”
He did not remember learning about a Trump Tower meeting held in June 2016 by his son, son-in-law and campaign chairman with visiting Russians promising “dirt” on Hillary Clinton from the Russian government. He did not remember being told in advance of Russian hacking of Democratic emails before the stolen messages were posted online.

He did not remember any particular conversations with Roger J. Stone Jr., a longtime adviser, during the last months of the campaign, much less discussions with him about WikiLeaks. He did not remember discussing a possible trip to Russia to promote a proposed tower project in Moscow. He did not remember an invitation from Russia’s deputy prime minister to attend an economic forum in St. Petersburg.

A fuzzy memory is not exactly unusual for any president given how much they typically juggle, much less a 72-year-old president who is the oldest ever elected for the first time. But Mr. Mueller’s prosecutors considered his memory lapses unsatisfying and pressed Mr. Trump’s lawyer again for an in-person interview, to no avail.

“The written responses, we informed counsel, ‘demonstrate the inadequacy of the written format, as we have had no opportunity to ask follow-up questions that would ensure complete answers and potentially refresh your client’s recollection or clarify the extent or nature of his lack of recollection,’” Mr. Mueller’s report said.

So we know that he is blatantly lying, and I now agree 100% that he should be IMPEACHED!!
 

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It only lingers for those of you that don't understand the law. It's all over now, find some new conspiracy to die a second death on.
Mueller's investigation was a criminal investigation that started under the understanding that they couldn't indict a sitting president.
The report is for congress and for congress to decide whether or not to impeach.
 
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OnTheWayOut

Mueller's investigation was a criminal investigation that started under the understanding that they couldn't indict a sitting president.
The report is for congress and for congress to decide whether or not to impeach.
Look at Frankie keeping the hopes alive!! Never say die, never give up Frankie. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut now and then ...........
 

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Mueller's investigation was a criminal investigation that started under the understanding that they couldn't indict a sitting president.
The report is for congress and for congress to decide whether or not to impeach.
I feel sorry for your 4th grade crush, who you are no doubt still in love with.

KK
 

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I think it will be fascinating to see how the Democrats play this one. They risk having the whole issue blow up on them if voters decide they've overplayed their hand.

Not to mention that Barr is reportedly investigating how the whole fake news "collusion" story created by the Clintons led to intelligence officials spying (or whatever word you want to use) on the Trump campaign.
 

Frankfooter

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I think it will be fascinating to see how the Democrats play this one.
Its a choice.

Either you say Trump's obstruction of justice and general fuckery are totally ok for Trump and all future presidents or you do your duty and try to impeach him.
Pelosi is against, but we'll see what happens after the dems actually talk about it.
 

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Its a choice.

Either you say Trump's obstruction of justice and general fuckery are totally ok for Trump and all future presidents or you do your duty and try to impeach him.
Pelosi is against, but we'll see what happens after the dems actually talk about it.
It isn't just Pelosi. Even Nadler is on record of saying he is against. The leadership is. They have painted themselves into a corner over this now.
 

Frankfooter

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It isn't just Pelosi. Even Nadler is on record of saying he is against. The leadership is. They have painted themselves into a corner over this now.
Its time for Pelosi to stand down.
Though maybe her plans are just to beat Trump in reelection and allow him to be indicted as soon as he is out of power.

They should make a moral stand and say his behaviour is not allowed.
Impeach.
 

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Its time for Pelosi to stand down.
Though maybe her plans are just to beat Trump in reelection and allow him to be indicted as soon as he is out of power.

They should make a moral stand and say his behaviour is not allowed.
Impeach.
And the phone meeting the Dems just finished it was decided no plans to impeach. The line is "we can't rush this". Which really means they know it won't happen.

Pelosi will only leave when she is primaried out. And as the Dems changed the rules again to vendors who support challengers that just got a whole lot tougher.
 

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And the phone meeting the Dems just finished it was decided no plans to impeach. The line is "we can't rush this". Which really means they know it won't happen.

Pelosi will only leave when she is primaried out. And as the Dems changed the rules again to vendors who support challengers that just got a whole lot tougher.
We will see as the rest of the report gets out and Mueller and others testify.
 

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In a year and a half, the American people can decide for themselves if President Trump should be impeached and removed from office (voted out) why not just wait for that?

And even if he is impeached it doesn't mean he would be removed from office. Bill Clinton wasn't.
 
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