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Can a sitting president be indicted by the DOJ?

Can A Sitting President Be Indicted By The DOJ?


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oldjones

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Trump has been laying the ground for more autocratic presidents, not more open policies and less spying.
He's making the system much worse.
Yup. Every crass act he gets away with becomes a precedent some subsequent President can use, and certainly will. Trump fans should imagine how that might play out if that was someone as bad as 'Crooked Hillary'. Or worse.
 

Anbarandy

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Trump has been laying the ground for more autocratic presidents, not more open policies and less spying.
He's making the system much worse.
And lining the pockets of the DOD, MIC, Wall St., the 1%'ers and of course himself and his family in addition to enhancing the status of dictators worldwide.

But of course the only way for him to acceptably be indicted and jailed is if and only if the big bad Clintons volunteer to go jail first.

Then and only then would it be acceptable.
 

Butler1000

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Why is he a bad president?
So the only way "right reasons and the right way" you think is acceptable for Trump to go is to lose to Sanders and nothing else is acceptable by you?
I think the reasons why he is a bad president are evident.

And I will also accept Tulsi Gabbard.

The rest, Incuding Warren, have not pledged to stop taking corporate donations. Which makes them beholden to the corporations over the voters.

Collusion and obstruction are fake imo. So removal for those reasons ould be wrong
Removing him because he is an ass, is using bad tactics on trade (right reasons wrong implementation) and hasn't helped the voters on Healthcare are good reasons. But replacement with say Biden with a history of racist, sexist, homophobic voting and promotion of legislation is a bad choice. As well he is cozy with Wall st.

And this is a man who praised Dick Cheney and Mike Pence as good people, and thinks that he can bring Republicans back to the middle. He is lying. Because he is right wing as any of them.

Most of the Dem candidates are mice and midgets. Of the field Sanders is the only one with vision. He is a FDR Democrat. And that's what the nation needs.
 

Butler1000

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And lining the pockets of the DOD, MIC, Wall St., the 1%'ers and of course himself and his family in addition to enhancing the status of dictators worldwide.

But of course the only way for him to acceptably be indicted and jailed is if and only if the big bad Clintons volunteer to go jail first.

Then and only then would it be acceptable.
I would suggest you check the biting and legislative record of said Clinton's. They voted or signed bills in lockstep with the GOP on everything you say is wrong.
 

Butler1000

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Trump has been laying the ground for more autocratic presidents, not more open policies and less spying.
He's making the system much worse.
Which is why a person with a 40+ career of integrity is needed in 2020. And that person is Bernie Sanders.
 

Anbarandy

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I would suggest you check the biting and legislative record of said Clinton's. They voted or signed bills in lockstep with the GOP on everything you say is wrong.
Are the Clintons vying to be on the ticket in 2020?

That would be the only logical and sane reason reason to not be who you are being.
 

oldjones

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I would suggest you check the biting and legislative record of said Clinton's. They voted or signed bills in lockstep with the GOP on everything you say is wrong.
What was 'voting', Alex?
 

Butler1000

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Butler1000

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Are the Clintons vying to be on the ticket in 2020?

That would be the only logical and sane reason reason to not be who you are being.
Nope, thankfully. But my point is it would have made no difference to who was in for what you find a"deplorable".

Which in a way is why Trump got in. Some took a chance on him because they knew from her record she would support those things.

Trump was an unknown.
 

Frankfooter

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Nope, thankfully. But my point is it would have made no difference to who was in for what you find a"deplorable".

Which in a way is why Trump got in. Some took a chance on him because they knew from her record she would support those things.

Trump was an unknown.
Yet here he is doing everything horrid you thought Clinton would, only more so.
 

doggystyle99

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I think the reasons why he is a bad president are evident.

And I will also accept Tulsi Gabbard.

The rest, Incuding Warren, have not pledged to stop taking corporate donations. Which makes them beholden to the corporations over the voters.

Collusion and obstruction are fake imo. So removal for those reasons ould be wrong
Removing him because he is an ass, is using bad tactics on trade (right reasons wrong implementation) and hasn't helped the voters on Healthcare are good reasons. But replacement with say Biden with a history of racist, sexist, homophobic voting and promotion of legislation is a bad choice. As well he is cozy with Wall st.
Butler100%Exposed Clearly that is your opinion I for one don't think any president should get away with obstruction which was clearly laid out in the Mueller investigation. And the fact that Trump had to appoint a Republican fixer General Coverup Barr to do his dirty work is even more shady than you give it credit for.
So in your opinion meanwhile Trump is homophobic, xenophobe, racist, sexist and should not be removed for those reasons but Biden should not be voted in for the same reasons.
 

Butler1000

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Yet here he is doing everything horrid you thought Clinton would, only more so.
Less so actually. The war in Syria and another regime change didn't happen. Nor did boots go on the ground in Libya.
 

Butler1000

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Butler100%Exposed Clearly that is your opinion I for one don't think any president should get away with obstruction which was clearly laid out in the Mueller investigation. And the fact that Trump had to appoint a Republican fixer General Coverup Barr to do his dirty work is even more shady than you give it credit for.
So in your opinion meanwhile Trump is homophobic, xenophobe, racist, sexist and should not be removed for those reasons but Biden should not be voted in for the same reasons.
Based on his breaking of several policy promises he should be gone.

I've always considered him to be a necessary evil to wake up the electorate. Going after him has exposed the rot in Congress as well. That's how you saw several new faces there. The Senate also needs a cleaning.

People have gone from zero to sixty over Medicare for all. And implementation if that will do more to alleviate poverty and make things better than anything done in 50+ years.

The window exists where a person like Sanders can actually get in, reset the tone, deny the special interests, and clean out the stables. Reset both domestic and foreign policy.

That is my hope.
 

Butler1000

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More so.
More bombs dropped, attempted coup in Venezuela and the brink of war with Iran.
2 years in.
Less so. For now. But yes it's close. He is giving in to the war machine slowly for support.
 

Frankfooter

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Less so. For now. But yes it's close. He is giving in to the war machine slowly for support.
More so.
His increases to the Pentagon have been much higher.
You're backing the war machine and more interventions and have been for years now.
 

Butler1000

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More so.
His increases to the Pentagon have been much higher.
You're backing the war machine and more interventions and have been for years now.
Lol. No I'm backing Sanders.

Do you think Biden won't approve increases?
 

doggystyle99

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Based on his breaking of several policy promises he should be gone.

I've always considered him to be a necessary evil to wake up the electorate. Going after him has exposed the rot in Congress as well. That's how you saw several new faces there. The Senate also needs a cleaning.

People have gone from zero to sixty over Medicare for all. And implementation if that will do more to alleviate poverty and make things better than anything done in 50+ years.

The window exists where a person like Sanders can actually get in, reset the tone, deny the special interests, and clean out the stables. Reset both domestic and foreign policy.

That is my hope.
Butler100%Exposed Just because that is your hope it does not mean he should not be accountable for obstruction as it was clearly laid out in the Mueller investigation.
He appointed a Republican fixer General Coverup Barr to get him to do his dirty work and that is even more shady than you give it credit for.
 

Frankfooter

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Butler1000

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You should back Warren, she's better and will do better than Sanders.

https://www.salon.com/2019/06/16/se...urch-to-the-left-before-the-rich-take-it-all/
Nope. She isn't for Medicare for all, and has said she will accept corporate money. I believe she has also voted for the military budget increases due to her state having a fair bit of defense industry.

And I think she is really weak in the foreign policy Dept. Moreso than Sanders.

I prefer her as Senate Majority leader or secretary to go after Wall St.
 
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