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I don't like Trump and think he is a bad President for a lot of reasons.

But I accept the findings of Mueller's Report that Trump didn't actively "collude" with the Russians in the election. And I accept Mueller's assessment that Trump was just frustrated with Comey, Sessions and Meuller not playing the Trump playbook that Trump is used to as a "President" of his privately held company.

I can see the media and everyone else who doesn't like Trump picking the Report apart word by word to try to find or twist things around to still make Trump look bad. That is going to get tiresome.

I still don't like or think Trump makes a good President for the US and think he is bad for the world in general, but I accept taht he didn't "collude" with the Russians and that he didn't actually obstruct justice.
 
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Anbarandy

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1) Barr has removed any doubt remaining that he is nothing but Trump's Roy Cohn.

2) Mueller clearly stated that he adhered to DOJ guidelines that a sitting President cannot be indicted.

3) In light of 2) above, Mueller clearly stated that was the guiding principle regarding obstruction of justice.

4) In light of 2) and 3) above, Mueller stated that he concluded based upon the evidence that he could not exonerate Trump of obstruction of justice.

5) Based upon 3), 3), 4) above, Mueller stated that the remedy to solve this problem is Congress, which means impeachment hearings to decide if the President abused his powers by attempting to obstruct justice on no less than 10 occasions.

6) To note, that in addition to whitewashing the Mueller report and to running interference for Trump, Barr clearly lied when he stated that standing DOJ guideline regarding not indicting a sitting President DID NOT factor into Mueller's decision, when that clearly was NOT the case.
 
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Anbarandy said:
1) Barr has removed any doubt remaining that he is nothing but Trump's Roy Cohn.

2) Mueller clearly stated that he adhered to DOJ guidelines that a sitting President cannot be indicted.

3) In light of 2) above, Mueller clearly stated that was the guiding principle regarding obstruction of justice.

4) In light of 2) and 3) above, Mueller stated that he concluded based upon the evidence that he could not exonerate Trump of obstruction of justice.

5) Based upon 3), 3), 4) above, Mueller stated that the remedy to solve this problem is Congress, which means impeachment hearings to decide if the President abused his powers by attempting to obstruct justice on no less than 10 occasions.

6) To note, that in addition to whitewashing the Mueller report and to running interference for Trump, Barr clearly lied when he stated that standing DOJ guideline regarding not indicting a sitting President DID NOT factor into Mueller's decision, when that clearly was NOT the case.
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Lol. You need to curl up with about 4 hours of MSNBC tonight between 7-11 pm to get a conspiresy fix.

Because beyond that echo chamber this is done.
 
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Butler1000 said:
Lol. You need to curl up with about 4 hours of MSNBC tonight between 7-11 pm to get a conspiresy fix.

Because beyond that echo chamber this is done.
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The report is damning for Trump.

10 instances of attempting to obstruct justice are laid bare for all, except the Trump lovers, to see.

10 instances where Trump subordinates, did not carry out his 'orders' to obstruct justice because they knew they were criminal acts. All knew they were criminal acts, including Trump.

Many incidents where Trump campaign members were 'colluding' with Russian entities and foreign agents to affect the outcome of the 2016 election. All documented in the Mueller report.

Are these the acceptable standard for Republicans now?

We know they are for you, Trump as his supporters.


Please regale us that somehow you are a Bernie supporter.
 
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Anbarandy said:
The report is damning for Trump.

10 instances of attempting to obstruct justice are laid bare for all, except the Trump lovers, to see.

10 instances where Trump subordinates, did not carry out his 'orders' to obstruct justice because they knew they were criminal acts. All knew they were criminal acts, including Trump.

Many incidents where Trump campaign members were 'colluding' with Russian entities and foreign agents to affect the outcome of the 2016 election. All documented in the Mueller report.

Are these the acceptable standard for Republicans now?

We know they are for you, Trump as his supporters.


Please regale us that somehow you are a Bernie supporter.
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It's this simple. I understand the only and best way to remove him from office is to put up a real, uncorrupted by money candidate with a policy agenda that will appeal to the majority of Americans.

And the worst thing to do is continue to give Trump ammunition to his "outsider" status narrative and make his record the issue.

Congress only looks foolish and weaker every day this continues.

Take a look at what Senator Sanders did on his Fox News Town Hall. That is how you get rid of Trump and win an Election.
 
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Anbarandy

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You're in full blown "Rob Ford" mode now!

As an aside the report also details Sarah Sanders famous press conference where she stated she received hundreds of emails supporting Trump's firing of the the alleged "much reviled" Comey as nothing but a lie. Sanders stated her comments were NOT founded upon anything at all. Just made up out of thin air. Just more examples of the constant lying from the Trump administration since it's infancy.

Did u note how much BS Barr spewed out at today's presser and his prior one where he stated that Mueller was not co-opted by DOJ guidelines that it cannot indict a sitting President, when the truth was that he did not make a decision on obstruction of justice, not because there was not enough evidence, but because it was a decision for Congress to make.

A shambles Butler, just like the man you truly support.
 
SchlongConery

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Anbarandy said:
The report is damning for Trump.

10 instances of attempting to obstruct justice are laid bare for all, except the Trump lovers, to see.

10 instances where Trump subordinates, did not carry out his 'orders' to obstruct justice because they knew they were criminal acts. All knew they were criminal acts, including Trump.

Many incidents where Trump campaign members were 'colluding' with Russian entities and foreign agents to affect the outcome of the 2016 election. All documented in the Mueller report.

Are these the acceptable standard for Republicans now?

We know they are for you, Trump as his supporters.
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I'm NOT a Trump supporter in the least. I think he is unqualified for the office and is a malignant narcissist.

But... an extensive, full-on investigation did not result in much more than proving he is what we know he is. But nothing chargeable.

So, let's not be like the Trump supporters bringing up Hilary/Benghazi, etc etc.

The American's will do what they need to do in their next Presidential elections.
 
SchlongConery

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Butler1000 said:
It's this simple. I understand the only and best way to remove him from office is to put up a real, uncorrupted by money candidate with a policy agenda that will appeal to the majority of Americans.

And the worst thing to do is continue to give Trump ammunition to his "outsider" status narrative and make his record the issue.

Congress only looks foolish and weaker every day this continues.

Take a look at what Senator Sanders did on his Fox News Town Hall. That is how you get rid of Trump and win an Election.
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Can anyone believe this... I agree with Butler!
 
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No need to read the report.

Mueller said there was NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA which is what the Democrats wanted to pin Trump with.

End of story, er, I mean "Witch Hunt". OVER!

Now, if the Dems would stop wasting tax payer money (which of course most Libtards here are accusing DoFo of) on endless excuses to remove Trump, things could get done quicker to help MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
 
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Butler1000

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Butler1000

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Anbarandy said:
You're in full blown "Rob Ford" mode now!

As an aside the report also details Sarah Sanders famous press conference where she stated she received hundreds of emails supporting Trump's firing of the the alleged "much reviled" Comey as nothing but a lie. Sanders stated her comments were NOT founded upon anything at all. Just made up out of thin air. Just more examples of the constant lying from the Trump administration since it's infancy.

Did u note how much BS Barr spewed out at today's presser and his prior one where he stated that Mueller was not co-opted by DOJ guidelines that it cannot indict a sitting President, when the truth was that he did not make a decision on obstruction of justice, not because there was not enough evidence, but because it was a decision for Congress to make.

A shambles Butler, just like the man you truly support.
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Did Ford ever face a criminal charge?

Again it was about voting him out. Which happened in essence when his brother lost.

Sure Congress can attempt to go for impeachment. But Nancy Pelosi has already stated that won't happen.

So all this will be again is hot air.
 
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Anbarandy

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Butler1000 said:
It's this simple. I understand the only and best way to remove him from office is to put up a real, uncorrupted by money candidate with a policy agenda that will appeal to the majority of Americans.

And the worst thing to do is continue to give Trump ammunition to his "outsider" status narrative and make his record the issue.

Congress only looks foolish and weaker every day this continues.

Take a look at what Senator Sanders did on his Fox News Town Hall. That is how you get rid of Trump and win an Election.
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Farkin hilarious Butler, as we have a corrupted by money President with a policy agenda that appeals to corporations, the ultra wealthy, nationalists and the clueless.

Trump as an 'outsider'?

He is the swamp.
 
SchlongConery

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Anbarandy said:
Farkin hilarious Butler, as we have a corrupted by money President with a policy agenda that appeals corporations, the ultra wealthy, nationalists and the clueless.

Trump as an 'outsider'?

He is the swamp.
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He said it was a narrative/storyline:

"And the worst thing to do is continue to give Trump ammunition to his "outsider" status narrative and make his record the issue. "
 
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Anbarandy

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SchlongConery said:
He said it was a narrative/storyline:

"And the worst thing to do is continue to give Trump ammunition to his "outsider" status narrative and make his record the issue. "
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But, but, butt .... Butler has bought Trump's magic elixir.
 
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Anbarandy

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SchlongConery said:
And I accept Mueller's assessment that Trump was just frustrated with Comey, Sessions and Meuller not playing the Trump playbook that Trump is used to as a "President" of his privately held company.
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Show us where Mueller stated, "that Trump was just frustrated with Comey, Sessions and Mueller .......".

Mueller states that there were 10 attempts of obstruction of justice committed by Trump, which would have risen to obstruction of justice if Trump's demands were not rejected by his underlings, but were ultimately not deemed to be prosecuted because of DOJ policy regarding indicting a sitting President.

Furthermore Mueller clearly stated that this is a matter for Congress to address, which contradicts AG Barr's claims.

Facts matter.
 
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lol You guys never change. Totally unwilling to even attempt to see things in an unbiased manner.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Anbarandy said:
1) Barr has removed any doubt remaining that he is nothing but Trump's Roy Cohn.

2) Mueller clearly stated that he adhered to DOJ guidelines that a sitting President cannot be indicted.

3) In light of 2) above, Mueller clearly stated that was the guiding principle regarding obstruction of justice.

4) In light of 2) and 3) above, Mueller stated that he concluded based upon the evidence that he could not exonerate Trump of obstruction of justice.

5) Based upon 3), 3), 4) above, Mueller stated that the remedy to solve this problem is Congress, which means impeachment hearings to decide if the President abused his powers by attempting to obstruct justice on no less than 10 occasions.

6) To note, that in addition to whitewashing the Mueller report and to running interference for Trump, Barr clearly lied when he stated that standing DOJ guideline regarding not indicting a sitting President DID NOT factor into Mueller's decision, when that clearly was NOT the case
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This is all total horseshit! There was no obstruction of justice.
If there had been they wouldve moved for at least a censure, if not impeachment.

Why can't you just admit you got it wrong.
Take Schlong or Knuckle Ball for example, they can at least admit it sometimes when they get it wrong.
You are of less character I'm sorry to say
 
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Phil C. McNasty said:
Here is the full Mueller report in .pdf file: https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

Please Lefties, tells us which redacted parts hold all the collusion evidence against Trump :spit:
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This is a redacted version of the full Mueller report.
The full unredacted version has not been released by Barr. There is a highly redacted version and another less redacted version which is still not the full report as you claim.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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doggystyle99 said:
This is a redacted version of the full Mueller report.
The full unredacted version has not been released by Barr. There is a highly redacted version and another less redacted version which is still not the full report as you claim
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And you will lose that round too.

Care to make a sig bet??
 
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