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  1. #25
    Rep. Omar is a traitorous turd.
    "I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in," Hillary Clinton

  2. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    Rep. Omar is a traitorous turd.
    Using classic anti-Semitic tropes, jc?

    How Classic Anti-Semitic Tropes are being Marshaled against Ilhan Omar and Muslim-Americans

    Here are the themes, as The Anne Frank Institute explains them:

    1. Othering: Hitler was influenced by Austrian politician Georg Ritter von Schönerer (1842-1921), who wanted to see Austria and Germany merge into one nation. That nation, however, he held, had not place for Jews, who were not really Germans and could not really be citizens.

    Von Schönerer othered German-speaking Jews, and denied them the possibility of full citizenship. Likewise, those who attack Muslim-Americans like Ilhan Omar from the Right are hinting around broadly that they are not and cannot be real Americans (whom they code as white). Trump’s visa ban, explicitly implemented because, he said, he believes “Islam hates us,” prohibits Somali refugees like Ilhan Omar from coming to the United States and is premised on the notion that Somali Muslims can never truly be citizens of the United States in the way the Trumps are.

    2. The Stab in the Back. Adolf Hitler served in the army during World War I and his eyes were hurt by gas. In hospital, he heard the news of the defeat of Austria and Germany. He nearly had a nervous breakdown, unable to believe the news.

    So Hitler came up with an explanation, the “stab in the back.” Germany and Austria fought well, but the war effort was undermined by the lack of patriotism of the German Jews. In fact, some 100,000 Jews served in the German army in WW I, and Hitler’s charge was a crackpot notion

    Ilhan Omar is being accused of being insufficiently patriotic because she maintains that you can’t blame Muslims in general for 9/11, that it was the action of a small fringe group, al-Qaeda, whom she, like George W. Bush, called “people.”

    The implication of Dan Crenshaw is that Omar is not outraged enough about the 9/11 attacks, is insufficiently patriotic, is “stabbing us in the back.”

    It is quite the opposite, of course. She is saying that American Muslims are patriotic and devoted to their country and should not be confused with a tiny Saudi-Egyptian terrorist clique based in Afghanistan in the 1990s.

    Just as German Jews actually served in the German Army, so American Muslims serve in the US military, and some have lost their lives fighting for their country. And Omar’s own service in Congress is a demonstration of her devotion to her nation.

    3. Germs and Disease of the Nation: Hitler began calling Jews “germs” early in his political career and saw them as disease vectors that weaken the nation. This theme is related to the stab in the back, inasmuch as one way racial minorities were held by the Nazis to weaken the nation was by introducing infirmities into the national, racial stock.

    I don’t need to go into the history of white nationalist eugenicism with regard to African-Americans, or Trump’s allegation that no country run by an African had ever amounted to anything, or his epithet of “shithole” countries, directed at Africa.

    4. Alliance with Socialists. The Nazis could not make up their minds whether Jews were weakening Germany because of their international banking practices as capitalists or because they were hand in glove with Communists and Socialists. You wouldn’t typically imagine that there were a lot of banker communists. But they pulled it off.

    Likewise, the right wing rage machine attempts to make a connection between Muslims, whom they code in general as the enemy, and liberals and leftists. Thus, an influential meme on right wing social media held that President Obama deliberately settle 70,000 Somali refugees in Minnesota to arrange for the election of Ilhan Omar. Presidents don’t settle refugees in a particular place and the meme is not true in any way. But it helps nail down the minority-socialist threat that Nazis also saw in left-wing Jews.

    5. Racial hierarchy. Nazis slotted every human being into a “race” and then ordered them by the better and worse races. Somehow German Nazis managed to put the so-called German race at the very top.

    (There aren’t actually any races. Germans are diverse in their genetic inheritance. German is a language, not a people; in fact there are 4 million Muslim Germans today and 200,000 or so Jewish Germans, and lots of “Slavic” Germans). Nazism confused language groups with “pure” blood lines, but people get all mixed up over time genetically and often change their language. Americans mostly speak English but few of their ancestors did.)

    Trump’s version of the Republican Party, bolstered by the Neo-Nazi wing and the fascist Mercer/Bannon wing at Breitbart, has revived notions of racial hierarchy, and one of the reasons Ilhan Omar is being told to sit down and shut up is that she is a woman of color. Congress is for Mitch McConnell, not for the likes of her.

    These themes are obviously extremely dangerous. They contributed to the murder of 6 million Jews. We must stand against them today, whether they are deployed against Jews or Muslims. We must not allow religious minorities to be racialized and then demeaned, to be othered and viewed as lesser, as unpatriotic or as diluting America’s whiteness.
    https://www.juancole.com/2019/04/cla...americans.html

  3. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Knuckle Ball View Post
    The greatest risk of terrorist attacks continues to come from the Far Right...trump supports these people. He would like nothing better than to see his followers kill Ilhan Omar.
    Are you insane? Trump wants to milk her for all she's worth. Like AOC she's a gift that keeps on giving.

    KK

  4. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by kkelso View Post
    Are you insane? Trump wants to milk her for all she's worth. Like AOC she's a gift that keeps on giving.

    KK
    As noted earlier:

    Just say it: Trump’s attacks on Ilhan Omar are designed to incite hatred
    One cannot conclusively establish one way or the other whether Trump actively wants to see physical harm befall Omar. But here’s what we can say right now: Trump’s attacks absolutely are designed to incite hatred of Muslims, and the fact that this could have horrifying consequences does not weigh on him in the slightest.

    We know these things, because Trump’s monumentally dishonest treatment of Omar’s quote, as well as his own long history, leave no doubt about them. Trump has used 9/11 to stir up hatred of Muslims before — relying on massively deceptive agitprop to do so — and he has repeatedly continued trafficking in various tropes even after they have been confirmed to potentially play some kind of role in inciting hate and even murder.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...incite-hatred/

    The gift that keeps giving more ammunition to white nationalist terrorists.

  5. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    Using classic anti-Semitic tropes, jc?


    https://www.juancole.com/2019/04/cla...americans.html
    I don't know what you are blabbing about. Her own words condemn her. You want to defend her? Well, what a surprise from a Hamas defender.
    "I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in," Hillary Clinton

  6. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    I don't know what you are blabbing about.
    Sorry, dude, but I have to call out anti-Semitic type attacks when I see them.
    You are against anti-Semitic type racist attacks, aren't you?

  7. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    Sorry, dude, but I have to call out anti-Semitic type attacks when I see them.
    You are against anti-Semitic type racist attacks, aren't you?
    Seek help.
    "I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in," Hillary Clinton

  8. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    Sorry, dude, but I have to call out anti-Semitic type attacks when I see them....
    Yet you completely justified and denied Omar's use of them, even after Omar apologized for them.

    Seems anti-semitism is an issue for you, except when it targets Jews.

  9. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by basketcase View Post
    Yet you completely justified and denied Omar's use of them, even after Omar apologized for them.

    Seems anti-semitism is an issue for you, except when it targets Jews.
    We've been through this, Omar's statements weren't anti-Semitic.
    You can post the ones you think were, if you like.

    You support Trump on this issue, don't you?
    In Attacking Ilhan Omar, Trump Revives His Familiar Refrain Against Muslims
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/u...lhan-omar.html

    As long as President Trump has focused on what he said was the danger lurking at the southwestern border, he has also talked about the supposed threat from one specific group already in the country: Muslims.

    During the 2016 campaign, he would not rule out creating a registry of Muslims in the United States. He claimed to have seen “thousands” of Muslims cheering on rooftops in New Jersey after Sept. 11, a statement that was widely debunked. After deadly attacks in Paris and California, Mr. Trump called for a moratorium on Muslims traveling to the United States.

    “I think Islam hates us,” Mr. Trump told Anderson Cooper, the CNN host, in March 2016.

    Now, with 19 months until the 2020 election, Mr. Trump is seeking to rally his base by sounding that theme once again. And this time, he has a specific target: Representative Ilhan Omar, Democrat of Minnesota and one of the first Muslim women elected to Congress.

    Mr. Trump and his team are trying to make Ms. Omar, one of a group of progressive women Democratic House members who is relatively unknown in national politics, a household name, to be seen as the most prominent voice of the Democratic Party, regardless of her actual position. And they are gambling that there will be limited downside in doing so.
    You really are just like zailbetter.

  10. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    We've been through this, Omar's statements weren't anti-Semitic....
    So why did Omar apologize for using anti-semitic tropes? Fucking pathetic that you only worry about anti-semitism when it's not directed at Jews.

    And no I am very opposed Trump's fear mongering and racial scapegoating. Unlike you, I determine my views based on morals and not partisan politics. Omar is an American and deserves to be treated as an American. That does include criticizing her when she steps wrongly.

  11. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by basketcase View Post
    So why did Omar apologize for using anti-semitic tropes? Fucking pathetic that you only worry about anti-semitism when it's not directed at Jews.

    And no I am very opposed Trump's fear mongering and racial scapegoating. Unlike you, I determine my views based on morals and not partisan politics. Omar is an American and deserves to be treated as an American. That does include criticizing her when she steps wrongly.
    Yes, we've been through this before.
    I challenged you to state how her statements were anti-semitic and you couldn't, instead you went back to this line stating she apologized so therefore they must be anti-semitic.

    Indeed, Trump regularly makes worse statements that aren't ever called out. Its only because of Omar's race that she is attacked regularly.
    Donald Trump, Not Ilhan Omar, Accused American Jews of Dual Loyalty
    https://theintercept.com/2019/04/07/...oyalty-israel/

  12. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by basketcase View Post
    you only worry about anti-semitism when it's not directed at Jews.
    How the fuck can anti-semitism be directed at a non-Jew?

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    Trump is a sick individual. He promised to make the lives of each and every American "SAFE". All that has happened under his watch is record numbers of Americans being killed by gun carrying individuals. Now he is personally trying to threaten the life of someone that he has a prejudice against, just so that he can please his far right base. He has zero concerns against their personal safety, something that he promised the Americans that he would fulfil under his tenor. We know that he has a pathetic record of fulfilling what he promised on his election platform!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bver_hunter View Post
    Trump is a sick individual. He promised to make the lives of each and every American "SAFE". All that has happened under his watch is record numbers of Americans being killed by gun carrying individuals. Now he is personally trying to threaten the life of someone that he has a prejudice against, just so that he can please his far right base. He has zero concerns against their personal safety, something that he promised the Americans that he would fulfil under his tenor. We know that he has a pathetic record of fulfilling what he promised on his election platform!!
    Please tell me how he is threatening the life of Omar?
    Record numbers of Americans killed by guns - please cite a source for that.
    Contrary to your belief he has fulfilled many of the promises on his election platform - VA reform, tax cuts, regulation cuts, 3% GDP growth, defeating ISIS, pulling out of TPP, creating economic zones in depressed areas, appointing constitutional conservative judges to the SC, getting fellow NATO members to pay their fair share, moving Israeli Embassy to Jerusalem, revising NAFTA.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by K Douglas View Post
    Please tell me how he is threatening the life of Omar?
    Record numbers of Americans killed by guns - please cite a source for that.
    Contrary to your belief he has fulfilled many of the promises on his election platform - VA reform, tax cuts, regulation cuts, 3% GDP growth, defeating ISIS, pulling out of TPP, creating economic zones in depressed areas, appointing constitutional conservative judges to the SC, getting fellow NATO members to pay their fair share, moving Israeli Embassy to Jerusalem, revising NAFTA.....
    She has been receiving more threats thanks to Trump's tweets. Remember that Trump in the past has incited his base with violence during his platform speeches.

    https://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-america/

    Did he not say that once he is President, then America will be a safer place? Only delusional ones would believe his usual lies and false promises. Tax breaks for the rich is the only promise that he fulfilled. ISIS was on the run and would have been defeated irrespective whether he was there or not. Annual GDP growth in 2015 was as high, although there were much higher quarterly rates under Obama.
    NATO are not paying their fair share. Canada is paying what it thinks is right and not what Trump is demanding. Trump has destabilized NATO like no other US president has done so. That is why Russia and China now have growing influence in their regions. Moving the Israeli Embassy was not a leadership move, as no other NATO or Allies have followed suite. Just a ridiculous move to please his base.
    NAFTA has not been revised, as it is still the same old NAFTA. The USMCA has NOT been approved by Congress. But you praise that Trump idiot for his most ridiculous tariffs that are hurting not only Canada, the EU and allies, but the US as well is beginning to feel the pinch. Yes the most vulnerable are hurting in the US with the prices of homes and renovations etc. Keep on cheering for that insane person!!


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    If what Trump tweeted using Omar's own words is incitiig violence towards her, than you have to agree that the mainstream media calling trump supporters deplorables, racists etc etc etc and congress' rhetoric towards Trump and Trump Administration for over 3 years non-stop is an all out genocidal war.

    Omar's own words is what causes her the problems she has, over and over and over again. You don't minimize one of the worst terrorist attacks on U.S soil by equating 'terrorists' to 'some people that did something' at a CAIR function and expect not to hear backlash. CAIR who is a designated terrorist org in the UAE who supports hamas.


  17. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by WarGames View Post
    If what Trump tweeted using Omar's own words is incitiig violence towards her, than you have to agree that the mainstream media calling trump supporters deplorables, racists etc etc etc and congress' rhetoric towards Trump and Trump Administration for over 3 years non-stop is an all out genocidal war.
    Hyperbole much?

    Courage and cowardice: Trump should be impeached just for his vicious attacks on Ilhan Omar
    Trump will never back away from this campaign of racist hatred. Why should he? His supporters eagerly embrace them
    https://www.salon.com/2019/04/17/cou...is-supporters/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    TDS triggered.


    At the bottom of all the tributes paid to democracy, is the little man, walking into the little booth, with a little pencil, making a little cross on a little bit of paper - no amount of rhetoric or voluminous discussion can possibly diminish the overwhelming importance of the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthebottom View Post
    TDS triggered.
    Oh, so you also think criticizing is an 'all out genocidal war'?

  20. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    Yes, we've been through this before.
    I challenged you to state how her statements were anti-semitic and you couldn't,...
    Just because you refuse to accept that anti-semitic tropes are anti-semitic tropes.

    Again, Omar apologized specifically for using anti-semitic tropes. Of cours eyou know better than her about what she said.

  21. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by apoptygma View Post
    How the fuck can anti-semitism be directed at a non-Jew?
    Ask Franky.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    Using classic anti-Semitic tropes, jc?

  22. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by WarGames View Post
    If what Trump tweeted using Omar's own words is incitiig violence towards her, than you have to agree that the mainstream media calling trump supporters deplorables, racists etc etc etc and congress' rhetoric towards Trump and Trump Administration for over 3 years non-stop is an all out genocidal war. ...
    Who exactly is this "genocidal war" directed against? Can't wait to hear your response.

  23. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by basketcase View Post
    Just because you refuse to accept that anti-semitic tropes are anti-semitic tropes.

    Again, Omar apologized specifically for using anti-semitic tropes. Of cours eyou know better than her about what she said.
    You are the king of employing anti-semitic type tropes on Palestinians.

  24. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by basketcase View Post
    Who exactly is this "genocidal war" directed against? Can't wait to hear your response.
    I'll let you put two and two together

    BUT

    In case you didn't pick up on it, I was going along with the theme of this thread by being overly dramatic just like the OP is by insinuating that somehow Omar's own words incites violence towards her.

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