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doggystyle99

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So he is loyal to no one, but he is a Russian asset?

Right there is the beauty of propoganda in action.

It was all good when he released the Iraq war peppers in the press. But release DNC emails showing corruption and heaven help you.
Assange is nothing but a Russian puppet. It's known that Assange has a lot more dirt on Russia but they haven't been released. What he did release was information that was not only well known but it was information that was already well documented, one would need to ask if you wasn't loyal to Russia why wouldn't he release that information.
I see that Butler the lackey is at it every opportunity he gets defending Trump and talking against the Democrats. When are you going grow some guts and stop pretending to be a Sanders supporter and stand for who you are.
 

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I am a Bernie supporter. It was him that got screwed by the rigging.

And the nation when Trump was elected as a result.

When will you admit it was Clinton's fault Trump was elected?
You are not a Bernie supporter, especially as you agree with the right wingers on 99% of all the stuff that they put out on this forum.
Bernie will take Clinton over Trump any day. He categorically stated so in the last elections.
Not saying that Clinton was not responsible for sitting on her derriere and not campaigning extensively. She took a lot of things for granted. But You just do not go with the facts that it was Comey's reopening of her email investigations that backfired on Clinton. Otherwise, she might have won by a landslide victory as nearly all the polls indicated prior to the reopening of the investigation.
When are you going to admit that Trump is the most crooked President who occupied the Whitehouse??
 

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Donna Braisille admitted it. So did the DNC when they fired Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

And the leaked Emails of John Podesta proved it all.

It's the truth.
You constantly make up the stories as you go along just like all the alt right media. Donna Brazile did not admit that the Nominations were "rigged against Sanders" as you claim:

She told ABC she did not agree with Elizabeth Warren, the senator from Massachusetts, who agreed this week in an interview with CNN the primary was “rigged” against Sanders.

“I don’t think she meant the word rigged,” Brazile said, adding: “I’m on the rules and bylaws committee. I found no evidence, none whatsoever.”
All she said is that it may have been unethical. But the reason that she wanted Clinton to step down was because of her health as a primary concern!!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ered-replacing-hillary-clinton-with-joe-biden
 

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But they still lied, took donations, and acted unethically. Why have a sham primary?
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Trump lied 8,000 times so far but you don't mind that.
Trump's inaugural committee is under major investigations for taking donations, he had to shut down his foundation for fraudulent activities and you don't complain about that either.
Trump's lack of ethics on every single issue, his lying, his cheating, his nepotism, emoluments, etc all point towards a lack of ethics that leave the Clinton's looking cleaner than Pence.

And sham primary? Even Trump says the election was a fraud and now he's afraid about the Mueller report again.

In short, your hypocrisy is shocking.
 

doggystyle99

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I am a Bernie supporter. It was him that got screwed by the rigging.

And the nation when Trump was elected as a result.

When will you admit it was Clinton's fault Trump was elected?
In no way shape or form are you a Bernie Sanders supporter you are the complete opposite of it. Sanders supporters have guts and passion for their candidate which you lack, and they would never support a Charlatan like Trump as his policies and Sanders policies are polar opposites of one another hence a Sanders supporter standing up for Trump would be contradictory.
Every chance you get you defend Trump. Every chance you get you attack the Democrats. You blame Clinton for Trump being in office, yet you continuously fail to see the email investigations is what did her in as she was ahead of Trump by a wide margin.
As I've said numerous times you are a Trump fan parading around as a Sanders supporter.
One thing is for sure after the 2020 election you are going to be in the same place regardless of who is the POTUS. You will be on TERB bad mouthing the Democratic party every opportunity you get if they win or lose, and defending Trump if he remains in office.
 

Butler1000

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In no way shape or form are you a Bernie Sanders supporter you are the complete opposite of it. Sanders supporters have guts and passion for their candidate which you lack, and they would never support a Charlatan like Trump as his policies and Sanders policies are polar opposites of one another hence a Sanders supporter standing up for Trump would be contradictory.
Every chance you get you defend Trump. Every chance you get you attack the Democrats. You blame Clinton for Trump being in office, yet you continuously fail to see the email investigations is what did her in as she was ahead of Trump by a wide margin.
As I've said numerous times you are a Trump fan parading around as a Sanders supporter.
One thing is for sure after the 2020 election you are going to be in the same place regardless of who is the POTUS. You will be on TERB bad mouthing the Democratic party every opportunity you get if they win or lose, and defending Trump if he remains in office.
So let me get this straight.


The email leaks prove that the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaigns the nomination was bought and paid for by Clinton in 2015. That she had locked up the Superdelegates. That she controlled the messaging of the party before the primaries began. That Debbie Wasserman Schultz continuously lied to people on the news that is was a fair process.

That the DNC admitted in court in a lawsuit by Sanders supporters that the party held their finger on the scale.

That the whole convention was a sham that the nation saw unfold.

And yet as that Sanders supporter I'm supposed to roll over and say, "oh well, we tried, no need to look further into this".

"Let's throw support to the corrupt candidate who is the exact opposite in policy to him"? Because that is WHAT CLINTON IS.

Trump's anti war rhetoric won him alot of votes, same stance as Sanders. His anti trade stance won him alot of votes, Sanders was also against TPP.

You are in fact clueless and completely snowed by MSM. Desperately twisting things to try to explain this fact.

Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 Election because she was a bad, unlikable candidate with no platform, no speaking talent, no charisma, corrupt, outed as a cheat, bought by Wall Street, Pro war, arrogant, divisive.......
She is imo a sociopath.

In other words despite the rhetoric as bad as Trump. She is. Just as bad.

I'm supposed to support the likes of her? Go onto numerous sites and YouTube channels. You will find many Democrats stayed home. The MSM reported the collapse of the Obama coalition due to her nomination.

The truth about her came out and was plain to see by all. That's why she lost.

And you are a hysterical person, incapable of rational dissection of the 2016 election. Incapable of stepping back. Your beliefs are essentially the end justifies the means.

You were wrong. And your ego can't accept that. I pity you sometimes, then I realize how naive you are as an adult, who should know better.

You don't see the first problem is the corruption of the DNC leadership. That they take the same money as the GOP. Support the same war and Wall Street policy.

Sanders campaign is about changing that. And it was taken away by Clinton. I consider the Trump Presidency a nessessary evil to get to a Bernie Presidency now. Because it exposed the corruption if the DNC leadership.

First they have to go, then Trump.
 

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So let me get this straight.


The email leaks prove that the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaigns prove that the nomination was bought and paid for by Clinton in 2015. That she had licked up the Superdelegates. That she controlled the messaging of the party before the primaries began. That Debbie Wasserman Schultz continuously lied to people on the news that is was a fair process.

That the DNC admitted in court in a lawsuit by Sanders supporters that the party held their finger on the scale.
Oh, you mean like the way that Assange put his finger on the scale, with the help of Putin and his team of hackers?
That's the right way to do it, right, involve a foreign government that want's a useful idiot with massive debt to your country in power?

That's what you support, correct?

Oh, and read an interesting article you'll approve of, comparing the present state in the US to the collapse of Russia.

(How) American Collapse Resembles Soviet Collapse
Six Ways America’s Collapse is Eerily Like the Soviet Union’s Last Days.
https://eand.co/how-american-collapse-resembles-soviet-collapse-94773b44fe17

Collapse of the US is what you are hoping for in your support of Trump, isn't it?
 

Butler1000

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Oh, you mean like the way that Assange put his finger on the scale, with the help of Putin and his team of hackers?
That's the right way to do it, right, involve a foreign government that want's a useful idiot with massive debt to your country in power?

That's what you support, correct?

Oh, and read an interesting article you'll approve of, comparing the present state in the US to the collapse of Russia.


https://eand.co/how-american-collapse-resembles-soviet-collapse-94773b44fe17

Collapse of the US is what you are hoping for in your support of Trump, isn't it?
All Assange did was publish the truth.
 

Butler1000

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Oh, you mean like the way that Assange put his finger on the scale, with the help of Putin and his team of hackers?
That's the right way to do it, right, involve a foreign government that want's a useful idiot with massive debt to your country in power?

That's what you support, correct?

Oh, and read an interesting article you'll approve of, comparing the present state in the US to the collapse of Russia.


https://eand.co/how-american-collapse-resembles-soviet-collapse-94773b44fe17

Collapse of the US is what you are hoping for in your support of Trump, isn't it?
Lol. Kooky.
 

Frankfooter

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Lol. Kooky.
Weren't you supporting Trump to 'tear the system down'?
Or do you really believe in his tax breaks for the rich as better for the country?

Billions in Profits, No Taxes: How the Trump Tax Code Let 26 Companies Off the Hook
A new study shows how the GOP’s 2017 tax bill helped subsidize corporate America
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-tax-billions-profits-no-tax-bill-822428/

This what you think will really fix the economy?

We knew President Trump’s 2017 tax bill favored corporate America, but this is ridiculous.

According to a new study, a group of 60 companies in the Fortune 500 booked nearly $80 billion in total profits in 2018, but each owed $0 in taxes. Worse: Many of these companies actually got rebates from Uncle Sam, totaling more than $4 billion.
 

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Of other things readership please note Frankie refuses to say if he thinks Assange should be prosecuted for the publishing of the Manning files.

The reason for this is simple. He would compromise the basic rights of free speech and journalist independence just to get him. Just because of the published Clinton Emails. A leak the DOJ has already deemed to be legal.

But he in fact supports a trumped up charge of conspiracy to punish him for that.

That's why he wont answer. Remember that bit of hypocrisy when ever you are reading his posts.
 

Frankfooter

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Of other things readership please note Frankie refuses to say if he thinks Assange should be prosecuted for the publishing of the Manning files.
Straw man claim, butler.
I've already answered this here.

Assange should not be charged for the Manning hacks but should be charged for electoral interference for conspiracy with Putin/Trump's team to influence the election illegally.

Basic.

And no, the DOJ has never stated that the hacking of the DNC and Clinton emails were legal.
 

Butler1000

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Straw man claim, butler.
I've already answered this here.

Assange should not be charged for the Manning hacks but should be charged for electoral interference for conspiracy with Putin/Trump's team to influence the election illegally.

Basic.

And no, the DOJ has never stated that the hacking of the DNC and Clinton emails were legal.
You're right I checked. You have stated you have withdrawn support of Assange.

Which means you support his extradition.

Which means I'm right in the above statement.

Thanks for clarifying.

And yes the Obama administration clearly stated that they did not see a charge for the Clinton email release as viable because it would infringe on the 1st amendment rights of journalists and go against Supreme Court rulings.

0 for 2. Not a good place you are in.
 

Frankfooter

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You're right I checked. You have stated you have withdrawn support of Assange.

Which means you support his extradition.
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Nope, means I don't support the charges he is under at present or his extradition based on those specific charges.
 

Butler1000

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Nope, means I don't support the charges he is under at present or his extradition based on those specific charges.
Then why bother discussing the emails as a justification for his extradition? That is what you are doing . By bringing them up you are supporting his extradition. Especially in light of the fact the Obama DOJ stated no charges were merited.
 

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You constantly make up the stories as you go along just like all the alt right media. Donna Brazile did not admit that the Nominations were "rigged against Sanders" as you claim:
All she said is that it may have been unethical. But the reason that she wanted Clinton to step down was because of her health as a primary concern!!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ered-replacing-hillary-clinton-with-joe-biden
Butler constantly makes stuff up as he goes. He's done this a few times. He was complaining about federal tax credit being taken away for public transit (for his TTC pass as he rides a streetcar) meanwhile talking about purchasing a boat, not knowing the boat he was talking about costs around $1M only to have it pointed out to him by me and another member.
He is a Conservative voter and not a Sanders supporter as he claims, you can see it in his posts with the constant attack on the Democrats and the constant defending of all things his supreme leader Trump. He posts the same way regarding Canadian politics, constantly attacking Trudeau and any Liberal. Just remember that Butler was a supporter of Conservative Rob Ford even through his crack smoking days.

Prior to the 2016 U.S election he hadn't started a single thread in support of Bernie Sanders, and slowly over time started with this I support Sanders but my posts and in reality I support Trump, as a way to denounce all things Democrats.
 

Butler1000

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Butler constantly makes stuff up as he goes. He's done this a few times. He was complaining about federal tax credit being taken away for public transit (for his TTC pass as he rides a streetcar) meanwhile talking about purchasing a boat, not knowing the boat he was talking about costs around $1M only to have it pointed out to him by me and another member.
He is a Conservative voter and not a Sanders supporter as he claims, you can see it in his posts with the constant attack on the Democrats and the constant defending of all things his supreme leader Trump. He posts the same way regarding Canadian politics, constantly attacking Trudeau and any Liberal. Just remember that Butler was a supporter of Conservative Rob Ford even through his crack smoking days.

Prior to the 2016 U.S election he hadn't started a single thread in support of Bernie Sanders, and slowly over time started with this I support Sanders but my posts and in reality I support Trump, as a way to denounce all things Democrats.
Lol. I still always an appreciative of your attention. It warms my heart to know how much you think about me. How much my opinion affects you.

But really like your obsession with Trump you need to let go a bit and not continue this emotional connection of negativity you have.
 

doggystyle99

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Lol. I still always an appreciative of your attention. It warms my heart to know how much you think about me. How much my opinion affects you.
But really like your obsession with Trump you need to let go a bit and not continue this emotional connection of negativity you have.
The only obsession there is of Trump it's you by defending his actions over and over again, meanwhile pretending to be a Sanders supporter.
Your opinions don't phase me one bit, just calling you out for your irrational point of views and your obliviousness to the facts which sit on contrast to what you claim to believe in.
 

Butler1000

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The only obsession there is of Trump it's you by defending his actions over and over again, meanwhile pretending to be a Sanders supporter.
Your opinions don't phase me one bit, just calling you out for your irrational point of views and your obliviousness to the facts which sit on contrast to what you claim to believe in.
Please stop watching cable news for a bit. It's affecting your basic judgement and also how you interact with people. You really only have the ability to be negative these days.

How about starting a more topical thread like who you support in the Dem primary and why? Maybe your top three if undecided.

Instead of worrying so much about Trump doesn't it make sense to also take a hard look at what comes next?
 
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