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Who wants a chicken as a president?
Apparently you.
Its 6:1 people who think you are a Trumptard and a supporter of the cadet bone spurs, the big chicken.
And of course we'd have to assume that you were the single vote, right?
 

Butler1000

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Apparently you.
Its 6:1 people who think you are a Trumptard and a supporter of the cadet bone spurs, the big chicken.
And of course we'd have to assume that you were the single vote, right?
So out of just shy 175,000 members 7 (well six minus you) bothered to respond.

And no I didn't. Remember I said make it public? That was one of the reasons.

How many extra handles did you use?

For the readership please note again the lack of substance.......
 

Frankfooter

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So out of just shy 175,000 members 7 (well six minus you) bothered to respond.

And no I didn't. Remember I said make it public? That was one of the reasons.

How many extra handles did you use?

For the readership please note again the lack of substance.......
Poor you, only 7 people cared out of 175,000.
The board still thinks you're just another Trumptard, though.
 

Butler1000

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Poor you, only 7 people cared out of 175,000.
The board still thinks you're just another Trumptard, though.
Lol. I think more they didn't care about your little attempt to do......something.....not even sure what really. But it was a nice little fail on your part.

Anyway as the primary progresses onward I will continue to monitor Sanders news and disseminate it.
 

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And corporate money won't help this time. The grassroots is out in full force. And the internet is the new powerful tool. And the corporate money is already fractured between him, Harris and Beto.
There is a lot more Corporate money still to come and you can expect it to be for Biden. He is highly respected there. Harris and Beto will not attract that much of Corporate Cash.

Biden won't get a million volunteers.
He will get all the Clinton supporters. Remember that she won the majority of popular votes.

Finally those wonderful scenes of him groping kids are waiting.
Some sick alt right individuals started this nonsense and it is shocking to see how many right wingers on this board seem to blindly buy it. Show us where it was sexual in nature. The biggest groper who admitted it in the Hollywood tapes is Trump. From those tapes it is very likely that he even intended to rape those women.

A new Emerson Poll this week came out giving the Senator a 5 point lead over Biden nationally. Not the best sample size mind but the emerson polls have shown a consistent uptick month to month for Sanders and down trajectory for Biden.

Maybe if he actually stopped playing games and announced he would be doing better. But he is too fearful of attacks on his record and history before the DNC debates.

Who wants a chicken as a president?
Biden has still not declared his intentions to run. Once he decided that he does want to run, no doubt his popularity will rise again. Agreed that Trump acts like a headless chicken!!!
 

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There is a lot more Corporate money still to come and you can expect it to be for Biden. He is highly respected there. Harris and Beto will not attract that much of Corporate Cash.



He will get all the Clinton supporters. Remember that she won the majority of popular votes.



Some sick alt right individuals started this nonsense and it is shocking to see how many right wingers on this board seem to blindly buy it. Show us where it was sexual in nature. The biggest groper who admitted it in the Hollywood tapes is Trump. From those tapes it is very likely that he even intended to rape those women.



Biden has still not declared his intentions to run. Once he decided that he does want to run, no doubt his popularity will rise again. Agreed that Trump acts like a headless chicken!!!
Bidens popularity will not rise in the long run. His mouth will get him into trouble.

What's amazing is you are rooting for the guy who will get all the corporate money according to you and then have to cow tow to his master's. As opposed to the grassroots guy who wants to stop foreign wars and achieve real universal healthcare for the populace.

Why would you support a Democrat with a Republican agenda?
 

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Btw the "sick people" include former secret service agents who gave been making statements as to his conduct as VP when the wife wasn't home.

Get ready. You haven't seen the worst of it.
 

bver_hunter

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Bidens popularity will not rise in the long run. His mouth will get him into trouble.

What's amazing is you are rooting for the guy who will get all the corporate money according to you and then have to cow tow to his master's. As opposed to the grassroots guy who wants to stop foreign wars and achieve real universal healthcare for the populace.

Why would you support a Democrat with a Republican agenda?
So Obama had a Republican agenda with Biden's blessings???

But you support all of Trump's Republican agendas, that Sanders does not!!
 

Butler1000

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So Obama had a Republican agenda with Biden's blessings???

But you support all of Trump's Republican agendas, that Sanders does not!!
Obamacare was a right wing policy created by the Heritage foundation.

Under his watch the USA engaged in the overthrow of Gaddafi, tried to overthrow Assad, and in doing so created the migrant crisis. He didn't close Gitmo, didn't end the two wars, became known as the Deporter in Chief, engaged in mass drone killings.

And in an interview himself said he was so mainstream his policies would be considered Moderate Republican.

Biden's record for writing the Crime Bill, the Partiot Act, Anita Hill Hearings, numerous other quotes, against busing, and many more to come out only show he will indeed govern to the right of centre.
 

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Obamacare was a right wing policy created by the Heritage foundation.

Under his watch the USA engaged in the overthrow of Gaddafi, tried to overthrow Assad, and in doing so created the migrant crisis. He didn't close Gitmo, didn't end the two wars, became known as the Deporter in Chief, engaged in mass drone killings.
So Trump and all his Republican cohorts are wrong when they mentioned that Obamacare was a Left Wing Socialist Policy????? Anyway specify your sources of this "Heritage Foundation" myth!!

Gaddafi was an evil leader that influenced a number of African countries. He had a personal hand in the terrorist bombing of a passenger airliner in Scotland. He was responsible for breeding terrorism in the Middle East and North Africa. The Libyan citizens generally had enough of him, resulting in total discord and a civil war. Easy to blame Obama and his administration for it. You have to be oblivious, if you think that a similar discord among Syrians can be blamed on the West. Do you think that Obama should have supported Assad who is a ruthless dictator that panders to Putin?? Like Trump, you seem to love these dictators.

And in an interview himself said he was so mainstream his policies would be considered Moderate Republican.

Biden's record for writing the Crime Bill, the Partiot Act, Anita Hill Hearings, numerous other quotes, against busing, and many more to come out only show he will indeed govern to the right of centre.
But all your arguments and points of view seem to jive with even more right wing policies than either Biden's or Obama's. You have even referred to all of us as "Lefties" when supporting the right wing points of view on this board. But Sanders has categorically asked Trump to sign the Congress bipartisan deal to end the Yemeni war. This war has resulted in mass killings of families and the US definitely has the power to do so. This makes Trump a definite warmonger, and not a saint as some of his supporters seem to paint him as!!

https://www.vox.com/2019/4/17/18411863/trump-veto-yemen-resolution-saudi-bernie-sanders
 

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Obamacare was a right wing policy created by the Heritage foundation.

Under his watch the USA engaged in the overthrow of Gaddafi, tried to overthrow Assad, and in doing so created the migrant crisis. He didn't close Gitmo, didn't end the two wars, became known as the Deporter in Chief, engaged in mass drone killings.

And in an interview himself said he was so mainstream his policies would be considered Moderate Republican.

Biden's record for writing the Crime Bill, the Partiot Act, Anita Hill Hearings, numerous other quotes, against busing, and many more to come out only show he will indeed govern to the right of centre.
That's pretty wacko.

Obama care was all Obama could get started, because of GOP resistance, towards better health care.

Syria started as a revolt by farmers in Syria due to crop loss from climate change. The US under Obama did no more or less then any other 3rd party to fuck it up afterwards.

Trump is much worse, supporting the Yemen war against congress and the senate and trying to set the ground for a war on Iran.
 
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There is a lot more Corporate money still to come and you can expect it to be for Biden. He is highly respected there. Harris and Beto will not attract that much of Corporate Cash.

He will get all the Clinton supporters.
IE, Biden is the candidate most beholden to Corporations. Great, we need more candidates that will be corporate puppets rather than work for the people. He would suffer the same fate as Clinton thankfully.
 

Butler1000

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That's pretty wacko.

Obama care was all Obama could get started, because of GOP resistance, towards better health care.

Syria started as a revolt by farmers in Syria due to crop loss from climate change. The US under Obama did no more or less then any other 3rd party to fuck it up afterwards.

Trump is much worse, supporting the Yemen war against congress and the senate and trying to set the ground for a war on Iran.
He had the House and at one point a filibuster proof Senate. So the only reason he didn't expand Medicare was because the party,(as in the Democrats ) didn't want to.

That's the truth of it.
 

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So Trump and all his Republican cohorts are wrong when they mentioned that Obamacare was a Left Wing Socialist Policy????? Anyway specify your sources of this "Heritage Foundation" myth!!

Gaddafi was an evil leader that influenced a number of African countries. He had a personal hand in the terrorist bombing of a passenger airliner in Scotland. He was responsible for breeding terrorism in the Middle East and North Africa. The Libyan citizens generally had enough of him, resulting in total discord and a civil war. Easy to blame Obama and his administration for it. You have to be oblivious, if you think that a similar discord among Syrians can be blamed on the West. Do you think that Obama should have supported Assad who is a ruthless dictator that panders to Putin?? Like Trump, you seem to love these dictators.



But all your arguments and points of view seem to jive with even more right wing policies than either Biden's or Obama's. You have even referred to all of us as "Lefties" when supporting the right wing points of view on this board. But Sanders has categorically asked Trump to sign the Congress bipartisan deal to end the Yemeni war. This war has resulted in mass killings of families and the US definitely has the power to do so. This makes Trump a definite warmonger, and not a saint as some of his supporters seem to paint him as!!

https://www.vox.com/2019/4/17/18411863/trump-veto-yemen-resolution-saudi-bernie-sanders
Yes they are wrong. It's corporate welfare. Still leaves millions off coverage, hiked premiums, hiked co pays, hiked dedectables, and reduced choice.

The exchanges in several states consist of one provider.

Gaddafi had renounced terrorism and was working with the West. He was stopping human trafficking in the region.

What he did do was look at trying to create an African Euro to gain independence from the Petro Dollar.

And that's when they killed him. Creating the migrant crisis, actual open air slave markets(reported on by CNN international) and a low grade now high grade civil war. And you support these conditions?

How is my support for no more war, Medicare for all, reigning in Wall St excesses to prevent another Crisis, comprehensive immigration reform to a Canadian style system, giving Dreamers citizenship, cutting the Military Budget, increasing the social safety net, increasing worker rights, going after the Pharmaceutical industry both for overpriced drugs and the opioid crises(I would add govt paying for drug research at Universities again)..........

How is that a right wing agenda? All clearly stated in numerous occasions.

And I disagree with Trump on not signing the legislation. Just as I disagreed with both Trudeau and Harper for selling arms to SA to facilitate it. (Bet you can't say the words Trudeau was wrong to approve the deal).

Oops!
 

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Yes they are wrong. It's corporate welfare. Still leaves millions off coverage, hiked premiums, hiked co pays, hiked dedectables, and reduced choice.

The exchanges in several states consist of one provider.

Gaddafi had renounced terrorism and was working with the West. He was stopping human trafficking in the region.

What he did do was look at trying to create an African Euro to gain independence from the Petro Dollar.

And that's when they killed him. Creating the migrant crisis, actual open air slave markets(reported on by CNN international) and a low grade now high grade civil war. And you support these conditions?

How is my support for no more war, Medicare for all, reigning in Wall St excesses to prevent another Crisis, comprehensive immigration reform to a Canadian style system, giving Dreamers citizenship, cutting the Military Budget, increasing the social safety net, increasing worker rights, going after the Pharmaceutical industry both for overpriced drugs and the opioid crises(I would add govt paying for drug research at Universities again)..........

How is that a right wing agenda? All clearly stated in numerous occasions.

And I disagree with Trump on not signing the legislation. Just as I disagreed with both Trudeau and Harper for selling arms to SA to facilitate it. (Bet you can't say the words Trudeau was wrong to approve the deal).

Oops!
Read about the brutality of Gaddafi in this link. It is unbelievable:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-25979532

In other words Gaddafi was a terrorist pretending to be a repentant. Surprised you buy his so called new leaf in life. I do not support any of those conditions you described, as I do not believe that Gaddafi was working towards equality and justice of any sort.

Medicare for all is what the Democrats want and they do not want it by repealing and scrapping of the Affordable Healthcare. Just by improving it, as even Sanders' stated so, was on their cards.
But you have sided with the right wingers on this Board on 99% of your posts, whether it is the economy, race relations, Trump's crooked ways and the list goes on and on. Do not deny it.

So would you have supported Trudeau if he decided to scrap the selling of those armed vehicles to Saudi Arabia, even after the resources that had been invested for this purpose. Why did you not support Chrystia Freeland's tweets regarding the injustice with the Saudi Arabians and their treatment of the Human Rights Activists?? I supported it while all the right wingers on this Board were blasting her for it and how it affected Canada's standings on the International Scene. Then not long after Khassoggi was butchered by the Saudis and did you condemn Trump for not calling out Saudi Arabia by trying to protect the so called integrity of the Saudi Prince?? Oops!!
 

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Read about the brutality of Gaddafi in this link. It is unbelievable:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-25979532

In other words Gaddafi was a terrorist pretending to be a repentant. Surprised you buy his so called new leaf in life. I do not support any of those conditions you described, as I do not believe that Gaddafi was working towards equality and justice of any sort.

Medicare for all is what the Democrats want and they do not want it by repealing and scrapping of the Affordable Healthcare. Just by improving it, as even Sanders' stated so, was on their cards.
But you have sided with the right wingers on this Board on 99% of your posts, whether it is the economy, race relations, Trump's crooked ways and the list goes on and on. Do not deny it.

So would you have supported Trudeau if he decided to scrap the selling of those armed vehicles to Saudi Arabia, even after the resources that had been invested for this purpose. Why did you not support Chrystia Freeland's tweets regarding the injustice with the Saudi Arabians and their treatment of the Human Rights Activists?? I supported it while all the right wingers on this Board were blasting her for it and how it affected Canada's standings on the International Scene. Then not long after Khassoggi was butchered by the Saudis and did you condemn Trump for not calling out Saudi Arabia by trying to protect the so called integrity of the Saudi Prince?? Oops!!
Lol. Dictators are proposed up all the time. Hmmmm. Didn't you support SNC Lavalin who was doing Business with Gaddafi? And Trudeau who approved the arms sale? I don't. Those are real oppositions.

Once again I ask the question. By what right does the West pick and choose winners and losers in the dictator game. Prop up SA and others while starting civil wars and foreign interventions that kill millions. It's never about human rights, don't be naive. It's about oil, the Petro Dollar, and keeping power in the Hands of a few.

And yes I've consistently opposed SA on numerous fronts, to the point of being called anti Muslim. Once again you have this habit of genericly lumping me in with others.

The ACA is not even close to Medicare for all. It is a continuation of private insurance, no price controls, enforced buying of it, and corporate subsidies. With numerous instances of cash still needing to be paid out on top of premiums. One dies not lead to other other. Medicare for all is a very real transformation of the system that completely eliminates private insurance for all basic care, just like Canada. It may actually be even more comprehensive.

Do some research. And stop listening to sound bites. They are lying to you.
 

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Lol. Dictators are proposed up all the time. Hmmmm. Didn't you support SNC Lavalin who was doing Business with Gaddafi? And Trudeau who approved the arms sale? I don't. Those are real oppositions.

Once again I ask the question. By what right does the West pick and choose winners and losers in the dictator game. Prop up SA and others while starting civil wars and foreign interventions that kill millions. It's never about human rights, don't be naive. It's about oil, the Petro Dollar, and keeping power in the Hands of a few.

And yes I've consistently opposed SA on numerous fronts, to the point of being called anti Muslim. Once again you have this habit of genericly lumping me in with others.

The ACA is not even close to Medicare for all. It is a continuation of private insurance, no price controls, enforced buying of it, and corporate subsidies. With numerous instances of cash still needing to be paid out on top of premiums. One dies not lead to other other. Medicare for all is a very real transformation of the system that completely eliminates private insurance for all basic care, just like Canada. It may actually be even more comprehensive.

Do some research. And stop listening to sound bites. They are lying to you.
No I did not support those individuals that did that bribery deal with SNC-Lavalin. They got fired and deservedly so. I support SNC-Lavalin getting a stiff fine that goes to the Canadian Government coffers so that they can do business as usual just like Siemen's and the rest of the American companies who are conducting business as normal globally including Canada after they were accused with similar crimes and paid just the penalties for it. Do you think that it is okay for Siemen's to do so while SNC-Lavalin is banned? Do you not believe in a level playing field?

Again, look at the record of Gaddafi in the African countries like Uganda that he perpetrated. He manipulated Idi Amin to toss out the Uganda Asians and rule like a dictator. There were numerous killings on Uganda citizens. Stop putting him on the same level as the saints. Just read about all the manipulation in numerous other countries and the actual terrorist attacks manipulated by him.

You have supported the right wingers even recently by agreeing with their attacks on the "Lefties". Are you now denying it??? But you are the one that seems to be attacking the Government with their stance on SA when it suits you, but not agreeing with the fact that they led the way in condemning the human rights in SA. Yet all the right wingers on this Board were abusing the Trudeau Government for attacking the SA's human rights record. But they were hush hush about Trump praising the SA Prince in spite of the butchering of Khashoggi.

Please stop believing the online trolls, as they are brainwashing a sizeable section of the right wingers!!
 
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