Mueller Report to AG!

CNN over the years
2016: There might have been Russian collusion!
2017: There was Russian collusion and we need someone to look into this!
2018: There was without a doubt Russian collusion and Mueller's closing in!
2019: Even though Mueller didn't find Russian collusion...There might have been Russian collusion!

doggystyle1976 said:

Since you are a supposed “Sanders fan” you must fully agree with Bernie Sanders that the full report must be released and not just a summary or a watered down version.
I bet Trump will do everything he can to only release a summary and not the full report.

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Maybe if you looked around a bit you would see Bver asked me that very question. Already answered.

Butler1000 said:

Maybe if you looked around a bit you would see Bver asked me that very question. Already answered.

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Bver made mention of Sanders remarks and you being a in disguise Trumpista fanboy made general comments about it.
Again you agree that the full report should be released?

doggystyle1976 said:

Bver made mention of Sanders remarks and you being a in disguise Trumpista fanboy made general comments about it.
Again you agree that the full report should be released?

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Yes I think it should. This should be ended.

I'm still waiting for you you actually tell the class who you support and why. So far all you seem to be capable of is whining and repeating Rachel Maddow talking points.

icespot said:

Trump is cleared,.

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No, Mueller stated he was not exonerated.
All we know is that Mueller decided not to indict, we don't know what evidence he found or if he is just under the belief that you can't indict a sitting president.

Barr put a spin on the results, the report needs to be released.

Butler1000 said:

Yes I think it should. This should be ended.

I'm still waiting for you you actually tell the class who you support and why. So far all you seem to be capable of is whining and repeating Rachel Maddow talking points.

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I have said it before I would support anyone but Trump, I've said it before Trump is a Charlatan and a racist that can not and should not be trusted. Have never watched Rachel Maddow and couldn't care what she has to say but if she is saying the report should be released she is a 100% correct.

Frankfooter said:

No, Mueller stated he was not exonerated.
All we know is that Mueller decided not to indict, we don't know what evidence he found or if he is just under the belief that you can't indict a sitting president.

Barr put a spin on the results, the report needs to be released.

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You DONT know what evidence (if any) was found yet you're still convinced he's guilty of something though? The investigation was about Russia. NO LINKS FOUND!!! GET OVER IT!! Stop grasping at air!

Frankfooter said:

No, Mueller stated he was not exonerated.
All we know is that Mueller decided not to indict, we don't know what evidence he found or if he is just under the belief that you can't indict a sitting president.

Barr put a spin on the results, the report needs to be released.

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He said there was no evidence that would prove an offense beyond a reasonable doubt.

The US like Canada assumes every person charge with an offense innocent until proven guilty.

Which means Trump is innocent until proven guilty. Since Muller stated there is no evidence that would prove an offense beyond a reasonable doubt. There is no case no crime and Trump is cleared of any wrong doing.

To continue to go after him, without any new evidence it's harrassment.

Butler1000 said:

Dishonest, sure. Dangerous? In what sense? Honestly I think the Senator is engaging in some "par for the course" hyperbole here.

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Trump's praise of all the dictators and seemingly cozy relationship with them while alienating all the closest allies is proof of that. He always seems to praise Putin but saves the rudest comments for leaders like Merkel, Macron, Trudeau or May!!

Butler1000 said:

He is so much better when staying on policy message. I've watched his last half a dozen or so speeches. He does maybe 5 minutes on Trump and 10 times that on policy. Or more.

That's what interests me, and honestly most of his supporters. This little thing of cherry picking obsessively over Trump you do is getting boring.

It really is. Trump is a liar. Bernie is honest. Easily the most honest politician running. If that is your criteria for President then show support for the Senator and not the rest.

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See you very often go on and on about the "Leftie" this and "Leftie" that. But Sanders is the one who aligns more closely with those "Leftie" policies. But when anyone on the left attacks Trump, you passionately defend Trump, while Sanders is exactly more aligned with those attacks on Trump. All I do is to point that fact out as it is very important. It gets a bit hypocritical that you attack us for reflecting Sanders' very similar opinions about Trump. As long as you go on doing that to us, then I have to point it out. Period!!

icespot said:

He said there was no evidence that would prove an offense beyond a reasonable doubt.

The US like Canada assumes every person charge with an offense innocent until proven guilty.

Which means Trump is innocent until proven guilty. Since Muller stated there is no evidence that would prove an offense beyond a reasonable doubt. There is no case no crime and Trump is cleared of any wrong doing.

To continue to go after him, without any new evidence it's harrassment.

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not quite how it worked for OJ

Trump's attorney Sekulow agreed with Chris Cuomo last night on CNN, that there was "Collusion". But Collusion is not a crime if it is not intentional, and a conspiracy to use it for intentional purposes. So, that to me is what Mueller could not prove beyond reasonable doubt, as he did not also get an opportunity to interview Trump. Sekulow even stated that he did not want those written answers to Mueller's questions, being released. So they do not want to be transparent here and that is bound to be redacted by Barr. Seemingly that is why charges were not brought, and the President cannot be charged. But obstruction of Justice is a different story and that was left up to Barr to make that call, as there were possibly grounds for charges to be brought. Probably states why Trump was not fully exonerated.

bver_hunter said:

Trump's praise of all the dictators and seemingly cozy relationship with them while alienating all the closest allies is proof of that. He always seems to praise Putin but saves the rudest comments for leaders like Merkel, Macron, Trudeau or May!!



See you very often go on and on about the "Leftie" this and "Leftie" that. But Sanders is the one who aligns more closely with those "Leftie" policies. But when anyone on the left attacks Trump, you passionately defend Trump, while Sanders is exactly more aligned with those attacks on Trump. All I do is to point that fact out as it is very important. It gets a bit hypocritical that you attack us for reflecting Sanders' very similar opinions about Trump. As long as you go on doing that to us, then I have to point it out. Period!!

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Please show say in my last 500 posts 5 instances where I used the word "leftie".

Because you can't. I specifically don't use that type of language.

I truly don't think you even realize who you are responding to. You just treat every post as a generic thing and type whatever the latest CNN/MSNBC talking point is.

When are you going to figure out that support of one politicians policies is not the same as defense of principles of justice as a whole and should be applied to all?

It truly amazed sometimes the inability to think critically in the age of information some peopke have.

doggystyle1976 said:

I have said it before I would support anyone but Trump, I've said it before Trump is a Charlatan and a racist that can not and should not be trusted. Have never watched Rachel Maddow and couldn't care what she has to say but if she is saying the report should be released she is a 100% correct.

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And this is one of the reasons why he was elected. People like you didn't actually look at the lack of policy in his opponent. Or her track record. Or her person.

Don't you think if a party us going to oppose some like Trump they shouldn't put up someone as bad, dishonest, unlikable and outright corrupt as he is?

Perhaps if more people spent time thinking about policy, track record and less about Trump then removing him from office would not only be easier but someone far better for the nation would end up President.

Butler1000 said:

And this is one of the reasons why he was elected. People like you didn't actually look at the lack of policy in his opponent. Or her track record. Or her person.

Don't you think if a party us going to oppose some like Trump they shouldn't put up someone as bad, dishonest, unlikable and outright corrupt as he is?

Perhaps if more people spent time thinking about policy, track record and less about Trump then removing him from office would not only be easier but someone far better for the nation would end up President.

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There are quite a few different factors that led to Trump getting voted into office as the president in 2016.
Perhaps if more voters had put the advancement of the nation ahead of their hateful and bigoted ideology there would have been someone in office who wouldn't divide the nation further on a daily basis, someone who wouldn't reduce the name of the U.S.A further on a daily basis as a country that can not be trusted on international deals. The two countries that are directly benefiting from these actions are Russia and China.
I read an article years ago that it was inevitable China would be number one in overall GDP ranking in the world by 2030-2035. With Trump in office it will happen a lot sooner Barring a major war.

Butler1000 said:

And this is one of the reasons why he was elected. People like you didn't actually look at the lack of policy in his opponent. Or her track record. Or her person.

Don't you think if a party us going to oppose some like Trump they shouldn't put up someone as bad, dishonest, unlikable and outright corrupt as he is?

Perhaps if more people spent time thinking about policy, track record and less about Trump then removing him from office would not only be easier but someone far better for the nation would end up President.

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LOL! They still don't understand that Trump's supporters don't care about Trump the man. If they did, Jeb or Cruz would have been the candidate. Trump put together an agenda and showed balls in the face of opposition to demonstrate that he has the will to carry it out.

Butler1000 said:

Please show say in my last 500 posts 5 instances where I used the word "leftie".

Because you can't. I specifically don't use that type of language.

I truly don't think you even realize who you are responding to. You just treat every post as a generic thing and type whatever the latest CNN/MSNBC talking point is.

When are you going to figure out that support of one politicians policies is not the same as defense of principles of justice as a whole and should be applied to all?

It truly amazed sometimes the inability to think critically in the age of information some peopke have.

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Okay, you are right that I was mistaken as I took one of your posts out of context when I happened to just glance at it, and I thought you used the word "Leftie".

But accusing me of typing everything that CNN and MSNBC say is not strictly true. It is, like I saying that you type whatever Trump states are the facts, and what is fake news.

I start a thread based on the breaking news, and use all sorts of sources for it, be it CNN, MSNBC, BBC, Toronto Star, Washington Post, Daily Mail, Guardian, National Post, Fox actual news and not Hannity, Carlson or Pirro, and the list goes on and on. Now I do not also quote Infowars, or RT or some online Conspiracy Theorists, just to clarify!! Well there quite a few of us that cannot figure out how you can justify saying that you support a certain politician and his policies, while passionately arguing for the policies of a diametrically opposite politician, who seems to be in total contradiction of all those passionate debates of yours.

But if MSM Newspapers or TV are not the sources of news who is?? Please elaborate!!

Butler1000 said:

And this is one of the reasons why he was elected. People like you didn't actually look at the lack of policy in his opponent. Or her track record. Or her person.

Don't you think if a party us going to oppose some like Trump they shouldn't put up someone as bad, dishonest, unlikable and outright corrupt as he is?

Perhaps if more people spent time thinking about policy, track record and less about Trump then removing him from office would not only be easier but someone far better for the nation would end up President.

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Very well said. If the voters aren’t careful it could very well happen a second time.

doggystyle1976 said:

There are quite a few different factors that led to Trump getting voted into office as the president in 2016.
Perhaps if more voters had put the advancement of the nation ahead of their hateful and bigoted ideology there would have been someone in office who wouldn't divide the nation further on a daily basis, someone who wouldn't reduce the name of the U.S.A further on a daily basis as a country that can not be trusted on international deals. The two countries that are directly benefiting from these actions are Russia and China.
I read an article years ago that it was inevitable China would be number one in overall GDP ranking in the world by 2030-2035. With Trump in office it will happen a lot sooner Barring a major war.

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Or perhaps a war weary nation only had one choice as to who stated they wouldn't start new wars, and try to end existing ones.

Perhaps a nation was do desperate to send a message that they were tired of the two parties crap they sent up Trump, and/or stayed home for Clinton.

Perhaps if the Democrats didn't treat fly over territory as an afterthought and as deplorable they might like them better.

Perhaps if the media hadn't made assumptions about the outcome and reported the election as news and not as cheerleaders people would have trusted something they could have said.

And finally of instead of worrying over porn stars, hot mike comments and Twitter feeds they discussed healthcare, the opioid crisis, homeless crisis et al everyone in opposition to Trump may have actually sold themselves as being a better choice.

Butler1000 said:

Don't you think if a party us going to oppose some like Trump they shouldn't put up someone as bad, dishonest, unlikable and outright corrupt as he is?

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Idiocracy.

And this is of course why you support Sanders so much?
hahahahahaha

Populism is putting despots in power, like in Brazil just recently.
Nowhere where its happened has it worked out well.
Its as much a failure as Trump's tax break for billionaires.
All it does is fuck up countries even more.
Democracy is easy to kill, hard to make better.

Frankfooter said:

Idiocracy.

And this is of course why you support Sanders so much?
hahahahahaha

Populism is putting despots in power, like in Brazil just recently.
Nowhere where its happened has it worked out well.
Its as much a failure as Trump's tax break for billionaires.
All it does is fuck up countries even more.
Democracy is easy to kill, hard to make better.

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Truth. Clinton was not a better choice.