Larger high school class sizes will make Ontario students more resilient

basketcase · Mar 20, 2019

Holy shit, what is wrong with the Ford government? I'd respect them more if they simply said that their plan is about cutting the budget instead of trying to pretend they are increasing class sizes to help students.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...es-class-sizes-high-school-benefits-1.5064285

bver_hunter · Mar 20, 2019

Dumb Dofo in action. He obviously thinks that he is a Philosopher!!

HungSowel · Mar 20, 2019

The logical conclusion from that train of thought is that no school will make our kids bulletproof.

Darts · Mar 20, 2019

When I was in university I met a foreign student from a rich Singapore family. He told me about the successful Singapore education system.

http://theconversation.com/why-is-s...ccessful-and-is-it-a-model-for-the-west-22917

shack · Mar 21, 2019

basketcase said:
Holy shit, what is wrong with the Ford government? I'd respect them more if they simply said that their plan is about cutting the budget instead of trying to pretend they are increasing class sizes to help students.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...es-class-sizes-high-school-benefits-1.5064285

It's like saying that more cars on the 401 will help to decrease traffic congestion.

Frankfooter · Mar 21, 2019

TDSB estimates about 1000 less teachers in Toronto alone.

Fathammer · Mar 21, 2019

well, with the 1000 more we have right now, our children are far off worse now than they were before the hiring. Have you asked an elementary student to write in cursive lately? How about ask to see their penmanship? Show them a number above 10,000 and ask them to say it.

Go FORD!

Frankfooter · Mar 21, 2019

Fathammer said:
well, with the 1000 more we have right now, our children are far off worse now than they were before the hiring. Have you asked an elementary student to write in cursive lately? How about ask to see their penmanship? Show them a number above 10,000 and ask them to say it.

Go FORD!

They don't teach cursive.
Its dead.

Get with the times.

Fathammer · Mar 21, 2019

Frankfooter said:
They don't teach cursive.
Its dead.

Get with the times.

Who took cursive out? Liberals? How do you expect someone to sign their signature smarty pants?

oldjones · Mar 21, 2019

shack said:
It's like saying that more cars on the 401 will help to decrease traffic congestion.

More like they're saying crowding up the roads will make better drivers.

As the roads have filled up over the years we've seen how cutting traffic cops has improved driving haven't we? Congrats to Dougie for applying the same Smart Fix to our children and their futures.

No one will need to pay to get that crop of kids into good colleges.

shack · Mar 21, 2019

oldjones said:
More like they're saying crowding up the roads will make better drivers.

As the roads have filled up over the years we've seen how cutting traffic cops has improved driving haven't we? Congrats to Dougie for applying the same Smart Fix to our children and their futures.

No one will need to pay to get that crop of kids into good colleges.

The GoP have done a good job of dumbing down America by not properly funding the educational system and trump is one of the results. Uneducated people are easier to manipulate.

Same tactic by Ford. Sacrifice the quality of education in the name of controlling expenses. The price always gets paid down the road.

Fathammer · Mar 21, 2019

shack said:
The GoP have done a good job of dumbing down America by not properly funding the educational system and trump is one of the results. Uneducated people are easier to manipulate.

Same tactic by Ford. Sacrifice the quality of education in the name of controlling expenses. The price always gets paid down the road.

where did you get that conspiracy theory from? LOL

basketcase · Mar 21, 2019

HungSowel said:
The logical conclusion from that train of thought is that no school will make our kids bulletproof.

Worked well for the Ford kids.

basketcase · Mar 21, 2019

Fathammer said:
Who took cursive out? Liberals? How do you expect someone to sign their signature smarty pants?

Trump doesn't seem to have an issue.

Zaibetter · Mar 21, 2019

Holy cow Basketcase started a thread...I should go play the lottery.

K Douglas · Mar 21, 2019

Average class sizes of 22 is ridiculous. My god these teachers have it made in the shade. How much extra is this costing taxpayers per year?
When I was in high school average class size was easily over 30. I distinctly recall my grade 10 math class of 36 students. On the first day there weren't enough desks.
Obviously that is an extreme example that's far too many students. Especially for a math class.
Overall I support at least having an average class size of 25, I think that is more than reasonable.

saxon · Mar 21, 2019

The teachers of this province have been spoiled rotten by 16 yrs. of Liberal rule. Welcome to reality.

Frankfooter · Mar 21, 2019

K Douglas said:
Average class sizes of 22 is ridiculous. My god these teachers have it made in the shade. How much extra is this costing taxpayers per year?
When I was in high school average class size was easily over 30. I distinctly recall my grade 10 math class of 36 students. On the first day there weren't enough desks.
Obviously that is an extreme example that's far too many students. Especially for a math class.
Overall I support at least having an average class size of 25, I think that is more than reasonable.

See, you make an excellent case for the merits of smaller class sizes.
Thanks.

basketcase · Mar 22, 2019

K Douglas said:
Average class sizes of 22 is ridiculous. ....

Someone should have taught you the meaning of the word "average". Whenever there is a special ed or autism class of 3 or 4, the other classes need to pick up the slack. If you have kids in your extended family, ask them the actual sizes of their classes. From what I understand, classes with over 30 kids are quite common and under this change will make numbers closer to 40.

saxon said:
The teachers of this province have been spoiled rotten by 16 yrs. of Liberal rule. Welcome to reality.

Instead of just bitching about teachers, do you have any comment on the Education Minister's claim that larger classes will make students more successful? The Ford government is so pathetic they can't even come up with some good excuses for something that is transparently a cost cutting measure and has nothing to do with improving education.

K Douglas · Mar 22, 2019

basketcase said:
Someone should have taught you the meaning of the word "average". Whenever there is a special ed or autism class of 3 or 4, the other classes need to pick up the slack. If you have kids in your extended family, ask them the actual sizes of their classes. From what I understand, classes with over 30 kids are quite common and under this change will make numbers closer to 40.

Instead of just bitching about teachers, do you have any comment on the Education Minister's claim that larger classes will make students more successful? The Ford government is so pathetic they can't even come up with some good excuses for something that is transparently a cost cutting measure and has nothing to do with improving education.

The special needs classes are not included in the equation of average class sizes. I support lower class sizes for the earlier grades but I see no reason why we can't have 25-30 students in a high school history or geography class.

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