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Butler1000

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If you have real substance rather than just speculation regarding the Beto campaign donations, then please share.

Beto gallantly battled in a Red State, and lost by quite a narrow margin. Talking about "rookie", currently the POTUS in the Whitehouse was one, and his record displays it.

Well, the most recent poll puts Biden at 28 points. Sanders is trailing him by 8 points and now Kamal Harris has hit double digits and is just a further 8 points behind Sanders. Most analysts have praised her for her very precise Town Hall Meeting. She seems like a tough politician that could be an outsider with a striking chance of winning the nomination. But still a very long way to go, and most pundits are not taking a risk on predicting the outcome!!
I would love to remark on the real numbers of donators. But for some reason only Beto refuses to release them.........
 

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Time to let the electoral college die.
I agree. But changing the Constitution is one big job. Calling for a convention will prompt calls for numerous amendments and repealing others.
 

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I would love to remark on the real numbers of donators. But for some reason only Beto refuses to release them.........
Wrong, he released his statement on his real numbers and the average was $47 per donation!! Actually, something tells me that you want Sanders to win the nomination, as that is the only way that Trump stands a chance of winning. Not going to happen!!
 

Butler1000

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Wrong, he released his statement on his real numbers and the average was $47 per donation!! Actually, something tells me that you want Sanders to win the nomination, as that is the only way that Trump stands a chance of winning. Not going to happen!!
So a little more than half the donors Senator Sanders has from his count.

Or in other words Sanders has twice as many supporters.

At least he finally released the information. I will wait and see if a few huge donors made up the difference last minute to give him the press.
 

bver_hunter

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So a little more than half the donors Senator Sanders has from his count.

Or in other words Sanders has twice as many supporters.

At least he finally released the information. I will wait and see if a few huge donors made up the difference last minute to give him the press.
I think that the race will be very interesting. Still a long way to go, but you must give a rookie credit for raising that much cash overnight!!
 

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Robert Francis O’Rourke. No one has ever heard or seen anything like this candidate: a hyperactive limb-flailing imbecile, babbling compulsively in a torrent of extremist nonsense barely couched in comprehensible syntax. No idea is too stupid to be endorsed in terms of absolute finality: “If we do not abolish all fossil fuels within twelve years, everything on the planet will be dead. The scientists are 100 percent united on this. Just as Americans of the past had to fight at Normandy, we have to fight this now, and save our planet.” Lord Black My favorite analysis, so far.
 

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I think that the race will be very interesting. Still a long way to go, but you must give a rookie credit for raising that much cash overnight!!
While I understand cash is needed I don't respect someone for it.

While raising cash is nice I see this election as a unique moment when a real Progressive like Sanders can win. If he doesn't it will set back M4A a generation. Wars will continue.

Last time at good portion of his Senate campaign was financed by Oil and Military Contractors. And a Bunch more by bundlers.

There are lots off sneaky ways for corporate interests to donate and many are hedging their bets right now.

It will be a 4 way race imo.
 

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A Green Deal is a pragmatic approach, as the Country has gone too far right on many policies.
I could be proven wrong, but I personally doubt there are many states that will embrace the idea that democratic socialism is a "pragmatic approach."
 

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I could be proven wrong, but I personally doubt there are many states that will embrace the idea that democratic socialism is a "pragmatic approach."
The Green deal is a far off goal post. They are just staking out a bargaining position for later.

I still think M4A is going to be the main issue this election. With foreign wars a close second.
 

bver_hunter

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I could be proven wrong, but I personally doubt there are many states that will embrace the idea that democratic socialism is a "pragmatic approach."
The Green deal is a far off goal post. They are just staking out a bargaining position for later.
I still think M4A is going to be the main issue this election. With foreign wars a close second.
A significant number of Americans do believe that Climate Change needs to be addressed. So, if the Green Deal is executed in such a way that it addresses that issue, then no doubt it will be embraced by the Millennials, and many other Americans that are significantly being impacted by it.
 

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So, if the Green Deal is executed in such a way that it addresses that issue, then no doubt it will be embraced by the Millennials, and many other Americans that are significantly being impacted by it.
Putting aside the fact that the Green New Deal won't make any difference to the future of the planet, the polling in the U.S. shows most Americans oppose socialism. That is especially true in the states the Democrats need to win.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...sm-rise-united-states/?utm_term=.d24be103f8e9
 

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Putting aside the fact that the Green New Deal won't make any difference to the future of the planet, the polling in the U.S. shows most Americans oppose socialism. That is especially true in the states the Democrats need to win.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...sm-rise-united-states/?utm_term=.d24be103f8e9
Most Americans also oppose Trump's style of racism and divisiveness. That is why someone like Biden or even O'Rourke would definitely turf him out of office!!
 

Butler1000

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Most Americans also oppose Trump's style of racism and divisiveness. That is why someone like Biden or even O'Rourke would definitely turf him out of office!!
Poll I saw Says Biden yes, Beto no.

But Biden isn't in it and hasn't come under fire yet. But from what I've seen the back history of his will be his downfall.
 

bver_hunter

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Poll I saw Says Biden yes, Beto no.

But Biden isn't in it and hasn't come under fire yet. But from what I've seen the back history of his will be his downfall.
Laughable if you compare Biden's History to that of a certain individual who is occupying the Whitehouse. Biden has not lost any legal cases or settled out of court based on racism, he has not gone bankrupt numerous times, no sexual assault allegations by two dozen women and has no corrupt dealings with any of his businesses. The Americans have now become very hardened to petty allegations, so that will not affect Biden's chances in the very least.
 

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Laughable if you compare Biden's History to that of a certain individual who is occupying the Whitehouse. Biden has not lost any legal cases or settled out of court based on racism, he has not gone bankrupt numerous times, no sexual assault allegations by two dozen women and has no corrupt dealings with any of his businesses. The Americans have now become very hardened to petty allegations, so that will not affect Biden's chances in the very least.
You are missing the point. This is the Democratic Primary. The comparison will be to other Democrats.

He won't measure up.
 

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I was waiting for this........


He has also refused to disclose Where the donations came from. He won't say how many donators ir the size average of the donations.

And in the first two hours he tweeted out he had raised $5000. Then by Saturday refused to say what was raised. Yet by Monday suddenly he raised just a bit more.......

Hmmmmm

Considering the wealth and connections of both sides of his family and Ties to oil company money methinks he called favors.

Finally his constant polling numbers are at 1/3 to1/4 of Senator Sanders. Not even in double digits. Yet he raises more?

Sanders by the way raised over two million on the same day.

As with Biden. Support a Mile wide and in inch deep. But I am enjoying as DNC Mandarins are now abandoning Kamala Harris.
George Soros
 

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bver_hunter

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You are missing the point. This is the Democratic Primary. The comparison will be to other Democrats.

He won't measure up.
Again, you are not taking into account how the Americans have been bombarded with Trump's gaffes, so much so that the bar has been set so low. What Biden did say is "crumbs" when compared to Trump's outrageous statements. Biden has a very strong support among the Democrats. Those who are eliminated in the early stages will have their supporters no doubt throwing their support behind Biden. My feeling is that Kamala Harris and Sanders will be battling for that second spot to ultimately challenge Biden!!
 
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