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Trump attacks McCain over dossier, Meghan McCain swipes back

Frankfooter

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I'll take a straight up draft dodger like Trump or Clinton over an individual who monetizes his patriotism any day.
Trump monetizes his patriotism every day.
Each day he gets foreigners to buy hotel rooms to pay him off.
Or for the access he charges at his golf courses.
Or for the mysterious $2.9 condo sale that just happened to a foreigner.

Trump, the imaginary billionaire, is a walking ad for oligarch's trying to get themselves richer on the backs of their country.
And now he's buddies with Brazil's own despot.
 

toguy5252

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Cadet Bonespurs is a disgrace and he's unfit for the office he holds.

End of story.

McCain's daughter - god bless her heart. She's got more balls in standing up to that orange clown than all of the other Republicans out there. Good on her and keep up the good work.
Before the PGOTUS you probably couldn't find anyone in the US who did not revere McCain as a war hero. Now of course the lemmings of the GOP and this board have to fall in line with their fearless leader. Really quite sad and pathetic and a very sad commentary on the real harm that the PGOTUS has done to the US. Particularly coming from someone who was basically a draft dodger.
 

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I'll take a straight up draft dodger like Trump or Clinton over an individual who monetizes his patriotism any day.
Liberals don't even know what a draft dodger is lol. Obviously they have never served or know someone who has.

A draft dodger is someone who has been drafted and has fled or has failed to register for the draft. Trump NEVER dodged the draft, that's completely inaccurate. He asked for education deferment as did 50 percent of those who were drafted. He was also disqualified by the military due of his bone-spurs which also happens all the time. Being qualified to join the draft is completely at the discretion of the military. That's how it works! But let's not have facts get in the way of their trump hate, right?

McCain was born on a naval base on the Panama Canal. His father was well-connected. McCain was protected. It's hilarious to see liberal media hail him as a hero now when in 2008 they called him every name in the book; war-monger, accused him of inciting racial hatred etc etc. Sound familiar?

That said I'm with you, no love lost at all. He despised his own constituents. He gave the Steele dossier to the FBI as part of the coup and his service doesn't negate that.
 

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If he's not technically a draft dodger, he is definitely a war dodger. Liberals don't object to draft dodgers who left the country and proclaimed their refusal to serve in a pointless war, but pretending to support war while dodging service due to cowardice or some perceived illusion that he is too elite and special to risk his life in a war, is extremely hypocritical and reprehensible. But hey, that's yer boy, Trump! He dodged serving in Nam with phony bonespur excuses.
Nice attempt at word games, wargames
 

bver_hunter

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If he's not technically a draft dodger, he is definitely a war dodger. Liberals don't object to draft dodgers who left the country and proclaimed their refusal to serve in a pointless war, but pretending to support war while dodging service due to cowardice or some perceived illusion that he is too elite and special to risk his life in a war, is extremely hypocritical and reprehensible. But hey, that's yer boy, Trump! He dodged serving in Nam with phony bonespur excuses.
Nice attempt at word games, wargames
Bonespur is then okay to go and golf on practically a daily basis.

Mr. Trump had a 1-Y classification, which was considered a temporary exemption. But in practice, only a national emergency or an official declaration of war, which the United States avoided during the fighting in Vietnam, would have resulted in his being considered for service.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html

In other words he played the system and was truly a draft dodger!!
 

jcpro

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Liberals don't even know what a draft dodger is lol. Obviously they have never served or know someone who has.

A draft dodger is someone who has been drafted and has fled or has failed to register for the draft. Trump NEVER dodged the draft, that's completely inaccurate. He asked for education deferment as did 50 percent of those who were drafted. He was also disqualified by the military due of his bone-spurs which also happens all the time. Being qualified to join the draft is completely at the discretion of the military. That's how it works! But let's not have facts get in the way of their trump hate, right?

McCain was born on a naval base on the Panama Canal. His father was well-connected. McCain was protected. It's hilarious to see liberal media hail him as a hero now when in 2008 they called him every name in the book; war-monger, accused him of inciting racial hatred etc etc. Sound familiar?

That said I'm with you, no love lost at all. He despised his own constituents. He gave the Steele dossier to the FBI as part of the coup and his service doesn't negate that.
The biggest problem with McCain's role in spreading the fake dossier is the fact that he made it look credible by lending his name to that sad affair. In a sense he was the "maverick" to the very end, always ready to hurt his party in order to advance his own personal agenda. In this case, his dislike for the Republican choice.
 

Frankfooter

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The biggest problem with McCain's role in spreading the fake dossier is the fact that he made it look credible by lending his name to that sad affair. In a sense he was the "maverick" to the very end, always ready to hurt his party in order to advance his own personal agenda. In this case, his dislike for the Republican choice.
The Piss Dossier looked credible when the FBI took it so seriously that they showed it to Obama and president elect, Trump.

Bloomberg has a great timeline of all the evidence and players that are presently public.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/robert-mueller-investigation-report-donald-trump-russia/

Of course, you know when Mueller included 18 pages of redacted docs about illegal campaign contributions scamming in Cohen's charges alone, that there is likely so much we all have no idea about that he knows about.
 

jcpro

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The Piss Dossier looked credible when the FBI took it so seriously that they showed it to Obama and president elect, Trump.

Bloomberg has a great timeline of all the evidence and players that are presently public.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/robert-mueller-investigation-report-donald-trump-russia/

Of course, you know when Mueller included 18 pages of redacted docs about illegal campaign contributions scamming in Cohen's charges alone, that there is likely so much we all have no idea about that he knows about.
A serious organization like the FBI would have asked a fundamental question: who paid for this? They were not interested, apparently. That tells me everything I need to know about it and the investigation. And, it turned out, I was right. Oh yeah,you were and continue to be wrong.
 

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Trump is going ballistic in his attacks on McCain. What an idiot, who is mentally retarded. KellyAnn Conway's husband is right when he called Trump mentally ill. Give Republican Senator Johnny Isakson credit for calling out on Trump and calling his remarks "deplorable". When are the rest of the Repugnantlicans going to have the Balls to dose???

Republican senator calls Trump's McCain insults 'deplorable':
Sen. Johnny Isakson said President Donald Trump's criticism of the late Sen. John McCain is "deplorable," and the Georgia Republican promised to continue speaking out against Trump if he continues to speak ill of the deceased war hero and former GOP presidential nominee.

"It's deplorable what he said," Isakson told Georgia Public Broadcasting on Wednesday afternoon when asked about a series of critical comments Trump has made about McCain. "That's what I said on the floor of the Senate seven months ago. It will be deplorable seven months from now if he says it again and I will continue to speak out."
Isakson continued "There aren't Democratic causalities and Republican casualties on the battlefield, there are American casualties. And we should never reduce the service that people give to this country including the offering of their own lives to any political fodder in Washington, DC, or anywhere else for that matter."
In the wake of McCain's death last year, Isakson gave a Senate speech at the time that said "anybody who in any way tarnishes the reputation of John McCain deserves a whipping because most of those who would do the wrong thing about John McCain didn't have the guts to do the right thing when it was their turn."
Isakson told the station Wednesday, "we can't talk about our veterans in any way but to thank them for the service they render for the job that they do."
"If my kids started talking John McCain not being a hero, or because he was a prisoner of war didn't make any difference, they would have a serious conversation with me and I would have it with them," Isakson continued.
Isakson previewed his comments Wednesday in remarks to The Bulwark, where said in an interview Tuesday that "I want to do what I said that day on the floor of the Senate."
"I just want to lay it on the line, that the country deserves better, the McCain family deserves better, I don't care if he's President of United States, owns all the real estate in New York, or is building the greatest immigration system in the world. Nothing is more important than the integrity of the country and those who fought and risked their lives for all of us," Isakson told the news outlet from the conservative Defending Democracy Together Institute.
Isakson has previously made clear his reluctance to criticize Trump.
"I'm not going to answer the question the way it was phrased Because the (headline) would be, 'Isakson supports rebuking the President,' and I'm not going to do that," Isakson said last week ahead of Senate votes aimed at rebuking the President. "Any way that I answer your questions is going to engage me in that line of thinking and I don't want to be on either side of it. I want us to get the job done for the people we represent and not fool around with a bunch of political fights that make good headlines but don't make any good policies."
Last weekend, Trump attacked the late senator in several tweets that targeted McCain's ties to the controversial Russia dossier and his vote against repealing Obamacare. He also referred to McCain as being "last in his class" at the US Naval Academy.
On Tuesday, he continued his criticism of McCain, telling reporters at the White House that "I was never a fan of John McCain and I never will be."
Isakson told The Bulwark that the President's comments "drive me crazy" and that "nobody — regardless of their position — is above common decency and respect for people that risk their life for your life."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/20/politics/johnny-isakson-john-mccain/index.html
 

Frankfooter

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A serious organization like the FBI would have asked a fundamental question: who paid for this? .
And of course they did.
It was noted that it was opposition research when shown to Obama and Trump.
Just as they noted that it was likely very credible.
 

danmand

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I tought McCain had passed away
 

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And of course they did.
It was noted that it was opposition research when shown to Obama and Trump.
Just as they noted that it was likely very credible.
But not told to the FISA court.
 

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shack

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Rejoin reality. Get treatment for your trump devotee syndrome and you will feel like a decent human being again.
 

shack

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Says the guy with Trump Derangement Syndrome....lol
I appreciate the compliment.

Actually, it is trump devotee syndrome which is the real problem. It is the devotees that are deranged.
 
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