Is Trump “truly” a racist?

Frankfooter · Mar 18, 2019

Meanwhile, the US continues the conversation that started after Charlottesville.

Why won't Donald Trump talk about white nationalism? Because he enables and supports it
After another horrific massacre committed by a white supremacist, Trump sees a "small group" that's no big deal

https://www.salon.com/2019/03/18/wh...tionalism-because-he-enables-and-supports-it/

OnTheWayOut · Mar 18, 2019

Frankfooter said:
Meanwhile, the US continues the conversation that started after Charlottesville.

https://www.salon.com/2019/03/18/wh...tionalism-because-he-enables-and-supports-it/

Not the US, just the alt left. *yawn*

doggystyle99 · Mar 18, 2019

Yes Trump has been a racist the majority of his life and is a racist today.
Here is a list of his racist ways dating back to the 1970's.

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history

I've said this on this board numerous times and saying it again.
Although Trump is a racist that is not the biggest threat to our times, the two biggest threats are the advance of disinformation and alternative facts as facts mostly by the right wing nutbars, and the second is the advance and the emboldened Nationalism movements (both governmental and societal) across the globe as we have seen in countries like Italy and Brazil through their governments and in a few other nations through their society.
If this trend continues expect much more alt right terrorism as well as a high chance of possible wars across the globe.

Darts · Mar 18, 2019

doggystyle1976 said:
the advance and the emboldened Nationalism movements (both governmental and societal) across the globe as we have seen in countries like Italy and Brazil through their governments and in a few other nations through their society.

Due to a rejection of failed leftie policies.

If this trend continues expect much more alt right terrorism as well as a high chance of possible wars across the globe.

Trump in words and deeds is actually anti-war.

doggystyle99 · Mar 18, 2019

Darts said:
Due to a rejection of failed leftie policies.

Trump in words and deeds is actually anti-war.

The rise of nationalism across the globe is a direct result of the advance of the movement in the U.S.A and the fact that the president of the current #1 superpower in the world spews so much Nationalist views on a daily basis which has emboldened these people.

When I said possible wars across the globe I was referring to other nations not the U.S.A.

basketcase · Mar 18, 2019

slurp said:
None of these accusations are true. "These people" do not HATE, they disapprove of ILLEGAL immigrants. ....

Except that's not how it plays out. The rational complaint/excuse about illegal immigration has been focussed only on certain ethnic groups and a significant number of comments include anyone of the same ethnicity as those ethnic groups (no matter that a significant majority of Hispanics and almost all Muslims are legally in the US).

For example, the ban on a group of countries that "just happened to be" all Muslim countries was about legal immigration. You also never hear about white Canadians living or working illegal in the US.

Sorry but most of the immigrant criticism is about certain ethnic groups (Hispanic, Muslim) and the "illegal" argument only comes in when people want to try and pretend their arguments are not immoral.

I don't see it as any different than the racism faced when my Irish ancestors came here in the 19th century.

basketcase · Mar 18, 2019

Butler1000 said:
He is what I call "old people racist" ....

I think something along those lines but add that he is also hugely motivated by praise from the people around him. And sadly his base includes people more racist than the crazy uncle so he he combines the racism from the elites of his generational with the outright racism of his alt-right supporters.

Darts · Mar 18, 2019

basketcase said:
most of the immigrant criticism is about certain ethnic groups (Hispanic, Muslim) and the "illegal" argument only comes in when people want to try and pretend their arguments are not immoral.

Warning: This subject might be too sensitive for some viewers.

There are many minority ethnic immigrant groups in the U.S. There are rational reasons why the focus is on Hispanics and Muslims and not the others. No, it is not their race.

Top 10 sending countries in 2015 and 2016[85]
Country 2015 2016
1. Mexico 158,619 174,534
2. China 74,558 81,772
3. Cuba 54,396 66,516
4. India 64,116 64,687
5. Dominican Rep. 50,610 61,161
6. Philippines 56,478 53,287
7. Vietnam 30,832 41,451
8. Haiti 16,967 23,584
9. El Salvador 19,487 23,449
10. Jamaica 17,642 23,350
Total 1,051,031 1,183,505

derrick76 · Mar 19, 2019

Smallcock said:
When you say minorities, you shouldn't just brush over Jews. Put them in their own category. He hates them too, despite his daughter marrying one.

There's just so much hatred in the man that he ends up showing love for all those he hates. Amazing how that works.

How weak. She married the dude. Donald Cuck didn't.

You do know that daughters marry men who their father hate, for whatever reason, right? Those fathers 'tolerate' the guy. Do you think it's far fetched the father would HATE the group of people the guy belongs to?

You think the parents of ALL interracial unions 'like' the other side?

And you're calling people naive?

Please...take this 'LOL'. Let me know if you need extra sauce with that.

bver_hunter · Mar 19, 2019

Darts said:
Warning: This subject might be too sensitive for some viewers.

There are many minority ethnic immigrant groups in the U.S. There are rational reasons why the focus is on Hispanics and Muslims and not the others. No, it is not their race.

Top 10 sending countries in 2015 and 2016[85]
Country 2015 2016
1. Mexico 158,619 174,534
2. China 74,558 81,772
3. Cuba 54,396 66,516
4. India 64,116 64,687
5. Dominican Rep. 50,610 61,161
6. Philippines 56,478 53,287
7. Vietnam 30,832 41,451
8. Haiti 16,967 23,584
9. El Salvador 19,487 23,449
10. Jamaica 17,642 23,350
Total 1,051,031 1,183,505

Let's look rationally at those figures that you posted to justify the attacks on the "Hispanics" and the "Muslims". Okay you can link the "Hispanics" with Mexico, Dominican Republic, and El Salvador.
But give us your take on the Muslims and these countries that are listed in the "top ten" countries that you are trying to "justify" these attacks on!!

basketcase · Mar 19, 2019

Darts said:
Warning: This subject might be too sensitive for some viewers.

There are many minority ethnic immigrant groups in the U.S. ...

Thank you for proving that it's about immigrants, not illegals.

You might also note that your list has China as #2 and India #4. When was the last time you hear people bitching about Chinese or Indian immigrants? Actually I take that back; based on your posts you likely hear all sorts of racism from your friends.

Smallcock · Mar 20, 2019

derrick76 said:
How weak. She married the dude. Donald Cuck didn't.

You do know that daughters marry men who their father hate, for whatever reason, right?

Maybe that's how it works in your dysfunctional family, but not in most. Most women marry men that are like their father. In this case, she did just that - a smart successful man who happens to be Jewish.

You've watched one too many Hollywood rebellious teenage flicks in your life.

Darts · Mar 20, 2019

basketcase said:
Thank you for proving that it's about immigrants, not illegals.

You might also note that your list has China as #2 and India #4. When was the last time you hear people bitching about Chinese or Indian immigrants? Actually I take that back; based on your posts you likely hear all sorts of racism from your friends.

bver_hunter said:
Let's look rationally at those figures that you posted to justify the attacks on the "Hispanics" and the "Muslims". Okay you can link the "Hispanics" with Mexico, Dominican Republic, and El Salvador.
But give us your take on the Muslims and these countries that are listed in the "top ten" countries that you are trying to "justify" these attacks on!!

Glad to hear you agree the U.S. does not have a "racist" (actually the exact opposite) immigration policy as the charts show that the major sources of immigrants are from countries that are vast majority brown, black and/or yellow (not white) people.

bver_hunter · Mar 20, 2019

Darts said:
Glad to hear you agree the U.S. does not have a "racist" (actually the exact opposite) immigration policy as the charts show that the major sources of immigrants are from countries that are vast majority brown, black and/or yellow (not white) people.

Again you have failed to explain why Trump targeted the Muslims based on your list of countries that you posted, and tried to justify his racist statements. So those that were being permitted in large numbers, ARE NOT MUSLIMS!!

Frankfooter · Mar 20, 2019

Darts said:
Glad to hear you agree the U.S. does not have a "racist" (actually the exact opposite) immigration policy as the charts show that the major sources of immigrants are from countries that are vast majority brown, black and/or yellow (not white) people.

Or, as Salon just posted:

Conservatism and racism are now fully the same thing in the United States. But there is a tension and schism within this social and political moment. On one hand, Trumpism is not new. Racism is America's native form of fascism. But on the other hand, Trumpism feels like something relatively unprecedented in America. How do you make sense of this?

The Republican Party and the conservative movement more broadly have been grafting white racial resentment politics onto their entire narrative for five or six decades now. When you do that for five or six decades via dog whistles and other means, you slowly but surely build momentum to the point where all your other traditional conservative narratives about "small government," taxes and deregulation do not resonate as much with your public. Or if such claims do resonate, they only work to the degree that they overlap with white racial politics.

In other words, white Republicans and conservatives say they want less government because they think it helps "those people" and that's the problem. They have no problem with "big government" itself. They just don't want it to go to the "wrong people," or they don't mind taxation as long as they don't think that the benefits of such programs go to the "wrong people" and the burdens fall on the "good people."

https://www.salon.com/2019/03/20/si...massacre-tim-wise-on-the-crisis-of-whiteness/

Smallcock · Mar 20, 2019

Not wanting illegal immigrants (majority from Mexico) is supposedly racist, yet if any American tried to stay in Mexico illegally and become a citizen, they'd be swiftly deported. That is a policy that makes sense for a country.

The inability for the anti-Trumpers to understand this is a symptom of low IQ. Our low IQ populace is overly confident in their ignorance and 'feelings' of righteousness, and it's devastating.

trainII · Mar 20, 2019

Smallcock said:
No

The inability for the anti-Trumpers to understand this is a symptom of low IQ. Our low IQ populace is overly confident in their ignorance and 'feelings' of righteousness, and it's devastating.

Funny I thought perfectly obvious that major is from low IQ voter. Trump is the King of fractured facts and outright lies that sail over the head of his supporters. After all what is more "righteous" than Maga.

toguy5252 · Mar 20, 2019

Smallcock said:
Not wanting illegal immigrants (majority from Mexico) is supposedly racist, yet if any American tried to stay in Mexico illegally and become a citizen, they'd be swiftly deported. That is a policy that makes sense for a country.

The inability for the anti-Trumpers to understand this is a symptom of low IQ. Our low IQ populace is overly confident in their ignorance and 'feelings' of righteousness, and it's devastating.

LOL. Why did your high IQ leader have to have his lawyer threaten his high school and college not to release his transcripts. Must be because he didn't want to be embarrassed by how high his grades were. He is so modest.

toguy5252 · Mar 20, 2019

Darts said:
Glad to hear you agree the U.S. does not have a "racist" (actually the exact opposite) immigration policy as the charts show that the major sources of immigrants are from countries that are vast majority brown, black and/or yellow (not white) people.

LOL. Whether or not he is a racist the racists think he is.

Frankfooter · Mar 20, 2019

Smallcock said:
Not wanting illegal immigrants (majority from Mexico) is supposedly racist, yet if any American tried to stay in Mexico illegally and become a citizen, they'd be swiftly deported. That is a policy that makes sense for a country.

The inability for the anti-Trumpers to understand this is a symptom of low IQ. Our low IQ populace is overly confident in their ignorance and 'feelings' of righteousness, and it's devastating.

Have you been out measuring head sizes again?

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