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Horrific right wing terrorist attack in New Zealand

WarGames

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He makes too much sense for any liberal to wrap their head around ........ not enough hate talk for their liking.
You are right, what was I thinking lol

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bver_hunter

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Running an alternative fact is what they do best. I am sure the likes of Infowars, Gateway Pundit or Breitbart and people like Mark Dice, Ben Shapiro and Sean Hannity will be hard at work trying to spin this with alternative facts.
This is a very sad occurrence and undoubtedly this individual considers these individuals who were minding their own business and praying, to be invaders to the "White" race. If that does not make him a White Supremacist in the right winger's vocabulary, nothing else will. What they are failing to comprehend is that when there is an ISIS terror attack in urban areas, all it is meant to do is brutally murder all the individuals in the vicinity irrespective of ethnicity, or religion. There are Muslims who are also the victims. The only exception is when they like the White Supremacists themselves target a Christian Church, Jewish Synagogue, Hindu Temple or even Mosques. All the same, all the left wingers on the Board have unequivocally condemned these acts of terror, although the right wingers will live in denial with it.

So to sum it up, when there is a terrorist attack generally committed by a Muslim in the marketplace, mall etc., then the victims are everyone, irrespective of Race or Religion.
The majority of the law abiding Muslims, like the Jews are feeling more and more threatened as they are specifically targeted by the White Supremacists in countries within the EU, North America and now In Australasian countries. Why on earth does the Leader of the most powerful nation not see this threat, and refuse to acknowledge it!!
 

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Why don't you left wing idiots just come out and say Trump sent these terrorists over there? Basically what you're implying ..... you guys turned this tragedy into a political chest thumping ritual in record time, you never disappoint.

Trump makes a strong statement condemning the attacks and he gets criticized for not saying it the way you might hope. I hope he wins again in 2020 just so you nutbars dive off the deep end. So much energy devoted to pick his every move apart there is not enough left over to defeat him. Haters go on hating .... you are the problem you claim to be fighting.

This would have happened with or without a Trump presidency. The scumbag white nationalist terrorist who slaughtered 50 innocent people in NZ was inspired by European far right populism.

Trump is a symptom of this extremist scourge, not the cause. And make no mistake - it is a scourge which is currently a greater national security threat in many Western countries than Islamic extremism. it is no secret that the counter-terrorism community is now more focused on white nationalism and other far right loons than on Islamic fundamentalism.

This a fact which Trump apologists and supporters conveniently ignore.
 

WarGames

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This would have happened with or without a Trump presidency. The scumbag white nationalist terrorist who slaughtered 50 innocent people in NZ was inspired by European far right populism.

Trump is a symptom of this extremist scourge, not the cause. And make no mistake - it is a scourge which is currently a greater national security threat in many Western countries than Islamic extremism. it is no secret that the counter-terrorism community is now more focused on white nationalism and other far right loons than on Islamic fundamentalism.

This a fact which Trump apologists and supporters conveniently ignore.
Have you even read the manifesto???? At all????

In his manifesto, Tarrant expressed disdain for Donald Trump policies, and he openly admitted that the “nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China.” and is a self-described eco-fascist

BY DEFINITION -That makes him a far left communist who is WHITE
 

jcpro

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Have you even read the manifesto???? At all????

In his manifesto, Tarrant expressed disdain for Donald Trump policies, and he openly admitted that the “nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China.” and is a self-described eco-fascist

BY DEFINITION -That makes him a far left communist who is WHITE
The lefties have been conditioned to believe in certain truisms- like: when a white guy shoots a darker person then the shooter must be an angry right wing redneck.
 

Suprapal

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Have you even read the manifesto???? At all????

In his manifesto, Tarrant expressed disdain for Donald Trump policies, and he openly admitted that the “nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China.” and is a self-described eco-fascist

BY DEFINITION -That makes him a far left communist who is WHITE
Since when is China, or Chinese communist sympathizers for that matter, consumed by the issue of mass Immigration and the fear of “White genocide”?

The manifesto spends pages describing the intent of his attacks, a chronicle of grievances that boil down to fear of non-European immigrants, characterizing it as “an invasion.”

“Mass immigration will disenfranchise us, subvert our nations, destroy our communities, destroy our ethnic binds, destroy our cultures, destroy our peoples,” it says.

“If not combated” it “will ultimately result in the complete racial and cultural replacement of the European people.”

He gallops from writing of a “civilizational paradigm shift” to the hysterics of all-capital letters rants of “This is WHITE GENOCIDE.”
https://nationalpost.com/news/world...zation-of-the-internets-ranting-troll-culture
 

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Have you even read the manifesto???? At all????

In his manifesto, Tarrant expressed disdain for Donald Trump policies, and he openly admitted that the “nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China.” and is a self-described eco-fascist

BY DEFINITION -That makes him a far left communist who is WHITE
He said he was inspired by Trump's position on race but didn't agree with his policies, but then again, who really likes his tax breaks for billionaires?
This attack, like a few others, was emboldened by Trump's attack on minorities and immigrants.

You can't 'Sandy Hook' this attack.
 

WarGames

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The lefties have been conditioned to believe in certain truisms- like: when a white guy shoots a darker person then the shooter must be an angry right wing redneck.
They have. All that brainwashing conditioning has them so confused. They don't know what's what anymore lol.
 

Suprapal

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The lefties have been conditioned to believe in certain truisms- like: when a white guy shoots a darker person then the shooter must be an angry right wing redneck.
Re-read carefully. I don’t blame this on Trump or redneck America. White Christian nationalism predates Trump. Its roots are in Europe.
The central influence of far right European extremism on this terrorist cannot be discounted or wished away. It is absurd to cast this terrorist as some sort of Maoist inspired by Chinese communism.

His hatred burned when he visited France and saw Muslim immigrants “in every french town…no matter how small.”

“WHY WON’T SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING?” he writes. “WHY DON’T I DO SOMETHING?” He started thinking he would be a man to take violent action to help spur a race war, he writes.

He drew inspiration from others in his milieu, including other notorious mass murderers who had similar motivations.

The Christchurch manifesto directly refers to him reading the manifestos left by Anders Breivik, a Norwegian far-right anti-immigration terrorist who killed 77 people in 2011..he claims he even received “a blessing for my mission” from Breivik..
He also shows his inspiration, both in his chosen title but much of its content, from right-wing French polemicist Renaud Camus who, in 2012, published Grand Remplacement, or “Great Replacement” in English. It outlines his view on how the ethnic French are being ousted and replaced by immigrants from the Middle East and Africa.

“It’s the birthrates. It’s the birthrates. It’s the birthrates,” says the Christchurch manifesto, echoing Camus’ premise.

He says at the start of his manifesto that if people remember only one thing, it must be that the Western world’s lower birthrate mean it is being subsumed by mass immigration and higher birthrates of “the immigrants.”
https://nationalpost.com/news/world...zation-of-the-internets-ranting-troll-culture
 

WarGames

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White Christian nationalism predates Trump. Its roots are in Europe.
And yet Tarrant he wasn't even Christian.

You would have known that had you actually READ the manifesto.
 

Suprapal

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So you didn't read the manifesto?

Didn't think so.
I read the most relevant parts, as cited by the National Post. The entire screed of a fanatic killer does not deserve my time nor attention.

The key takeaway is that his central concerns and inspirations come from the European far right’s obsession with Muslim immigration and Muslim birthrates. What does that have or do with Chinese communism?

Are you suggesting that the right-of-centre National Post is a mouthpiece for lefty liberal fake news?
 

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I read the most relevant parts, as cited by the National Post. The entire screed of a fanatic killer does not deserve my time nor attention.

The key takeaway is that his central concerns and inspirations come from the European far right’s obsession with Muslim immigration and Muslim birthrates. What does that have or do with Chinese communism?

Are you suggesting that the right-of-centre National Post is a mouthpiece for lefty liberal fake news?
It is a bit odd that some people took the time to read the 74 page manifesto from a racist, terrorist, mass murderer.
 

WarGames

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I read the most relevant parts, as cited by the National Post. The entire screed of a fanatic killer does not deserve my time nor attention.

The key takeaway is that his central concerns and inspirations come from the European far right’s obsession with Muslim immigration and Muslim birthrates. What does that have or do with Chinese communism?

Are you suggesting that the right-of-centre National Post is a mouthpiece for lefty liberal fake news?
You said he was a white Christian nationalist, you were wrong. Did the national post not tell you that?? If so, I rest my case.

FACTS -He is a self described eco-fascist who aligns himself with Communist China socially and politically. Hates Conservatism and is not Christian.

By definition - That makes him a far left communist.
 

Suprapal

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You said he was a white Christian nationalist, you were wrong. Did the national post not tell you that?? If so, I rest my case.

FACTS -He is a self described eco-fascist who aligns himself with Communist China socially and politically. Hates Conservatism and is not Christian.

By definition - That makes him a far left communist.

Dude, are your serious? The title of his manifesto is “The Great Replacemnt”, referring to the replacement of white Christian Europeans by Muslim immigrants.

Eco-fascist? Chinese commmunist?
The title of his manifesto wasn’t “Climate Change Apocalypse” or “Our Dear Leader Mao”.

Gimme a break. You are fixated on irrelevant throwaway passages and turning them into his central philosophy.
 

Frankfooter

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Dude, are your serious? The title of his manifesto is “The Great Replacemnt”, referring to the replacement of white Christian Europeans by Muslim immigrants.

Eco-fascist? Chinese commmunist?
The title of his manifesto wasn’t “Climate Change Apocalypse” or “Our Dear Leader Mao”.

Gimme a break. You are fixated on irrelevant throwaway passages and turning them into his central philosophy.
Obviously wargames thinks this right wing terrorist was really just upset about that Mosque not using its recycling bin or something like that.
At least that's what Alex Jones told him.
 

WarGames

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Gimme a break. You are fixated on irrelevant throwaway passages and turning them into his central philosophy.
No, what you're doing is politicizing a nutcase before the bodies are even cold and I'm pushing back on that because I've read the manifesto and you have not.

You can't make sense of crazy but you can provide ALL the facts without dismissing or cherry-picking what you want out of it to suit your agenda.
 

jcpro

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Dude, are your serious? The title of his manifesto is “The Great Replacemnt”, referring to the replacement of white Christian Europeans by Muslim immigrants.

Eco-fascist? Chinese commmunist?
The title of his manifesto wasn’t “Climate Change Apocalypse” or “Our Dear Leader Mao”.

Gimme a break. You are fixated on irrelevant throwaway passages and turning them into his central philosophy.
Dude, you cannot quote selectively, even an alleged mass murderer. You either accept what he says as his genuine opinion or not. You may not have it both ways. There's no argument, here.
 
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