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Rockets Fired At Tel Aviv From Gaza

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The Israeli military confirmed that two rockets were fired towards central Israel on Thursday evening, with at least two loud explosions heard in the Gush Dan region.

According to the IDF, although the Iron Dome missile defense system was activated, there were no interceptions as both rockets fell in open territory.


It was the first time sirens were activated in Tel Aviv since the last war with Gaza in 2014 and several Israelis were treated for shock.

As a result of the rockets, Israeli Prime Minister and Defense Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will be holding security consultations at the Kirya IDF Military Headquarters in Tel Aviv to discuss an Israeli response.

Local reports in Gaza said that Hamas had begun evacuating military posts in anticipation of retaliatory strikes by Israel.

While there were no special instructions given by the Home Front Command to residents of central Israel, the municipality of Tel Aviv has opened bomb shelters across the city.

According to initial reports, the two Fajr rockets were fired by Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) in Gaza, the second strongest group in the coastal enclave after Hamas.

IDF Spokesman Brig.-Gen. Ronen Manelis said that the military still does not know who fired the rockets and both PIJ and Hamas later denied reports that it was responsible, saying that it did not play a role in the launching of the rockets.

According to a report in Haaretz, an Egyptian security delegation which had been in Gaza negotiating a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel left the Strip at Israel's request following the rocket fire.

The United Nations and the Egyptians are working from outside of Gaza to try and restore calm to the situation.

PIJ has been assessed by IDF military intelligence as a factor increasing the risk of an escalation, since it is not under the direct control of Hamas and acts independently for its own interests.

The group first fired an Iranian-made missile at Tel Aviv during Operation Pillar of Defense in 2012 from the blockaded coastal enclave.

US Special Envoy to the Middle East Jason Greenblatt took to Twitter blaming Hamas for the rocket fire, tweeting: “Hamas violently suppresses its own people demonstrating against Hamas’ rule & failures today and NOW fires rockets at cities in Israel. OUTRAGEOUS! This is what prevents the world from helping the people of Gaza! We strongly support Israel in defense of its citizens. Always!”

The IDF has warned that both Hamas and PIJ have restored their military capabilities to their pre-2014 strength, and expect that in the next war the southern communities bordering the Strip would be incessantly pounded with rockets and mortar attacks.

In late February, PIJ released a video claiming that it had developed a new missile with the help of Iran, capable of striking cities beyond Netanya. During a violent escalation between Israel and terror groups in the Strip in November, the group launched a new rocket that hit an apartment complex in the southern city of Ashkelon, killing one Palestinian man and injuring several others.

The IDF military intelligence assessment for 2019 has warned that Israel is facing a high risk of military escalation in the Gaza Strip. Based on the assessment, IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Aviv Kochavi has prioritized the southern front as one which could explode into war at any moment.

In one of his first visits as chief of staff, Kochavi went to the Southern Command, met with senior officers and approved operational plans for war, including setting up a centralized administrative unit to prepare a list of potential targets in Gaza in case a war should break out.

https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Rocket-sirens-sound-in-Tel-Aviv-Gush-Dan-583473
 

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It's okay, Hamas says their terror weapons were launched without official permission.
 

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It's okay, Hamas says their terror weapons were launched without official permission.
PIJ launched the rockets while Hamas tried to stop them.
You'll still blame Hamas, of course.

Still demonizing Palestinians the same way that Trump demonizes Muslims.
 

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PIJ launched the rockets while Hamas tried to stop them....
According to Hamas, some low level Hamas fighters launched them. But you don't like listening to what Hamas says.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/like-monty-python-tv-details-how-hamas-accidentally-fired-at-tel-aviv/

Of course the greater issue is why Hamas has so many war crime weapons aimed at Israeli cities just waiting to be set off.

I laugh every time you say criticizing terror is demonizing. If Hamas (or PIJ) launch terror weapons they deserve to be criticized. I know you support their goals but they still deserve to be criticized.

p.s. Aren't Islamic Jihad Palestinians as well? Why would you think blaming them instead of Hamas is any less of a criticism of Palestinian groups?
 

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According to Hamas, some low level Hamas fighters launched them. But you don't like listening to what Hamas says.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/like-monty-python-tv-details-how-hamas-accidentally-fired-at-tel-aviv/

Of course the greater issue is why Hamas has so many war crime weapons aimed at Israeli cities just waiting to be set off.

Sure, lets listen to what Hamas says.
On Friday, Israeli warplanes and attack helicopters carried out a flurry of attacks against the Gaza Strip. The Israeli Air Force estimated 100 military targets in Gaza were hit, saying they all belong to Hamas.

This attack was retaliation for a pair of rockets fired out of Gaza toward Tel Aviv. For Israel to retaliate in an excessive way is not unusual. What is unusual is that Hamas says the rocket fire was accidental, and the Israeli Army has concurred, saying they believe the Hamas version of the events.


Which is quite a story. According to Hamas, some bungling low-level member “messed with” a rocket launcher that was set to fire on Tel Aviv in the event of a war, and fired them without authorization. The attack happened in the middle of Hamas talks with Egypt, which made it doubly embarrassing.

Gaza reports say one or more Hamas operatives were arrested over the matter. Israel’s decision to attack Gaza anyhow seems puzzling given the apparent circumstances, though there was a suggestion that if the attack was deliberate, the Israeli strikes would’ve been “five times heavier.”
https://news.antiwar.com/2019/03/15...irms-gaza-rocket-fire-was-likely-an-accident/

Hamas says it was an accident and they arrested those responsible.
That's what you'd like to happen, right?

Now, your second claim is that they have 'war crimes weapons' aimed at Israel. There is a massive problem with your statement, those rockets are only considered war crimes because they can't be accurately aimed only at military structures.
So either you give them more accurate weapons that they can aim at military only, or you argue that its illegal that they defend themselves against foreign occupation with whatever means they have at hand.

Personally, I think that should be taken to the ICC where they should properly investigate the legality of Hamas' rockets as well as the occupation, apartheid, weekly shooting of civilians in Gaza and the ongoing land theft/colonization.

Investigate both sides and treat them equally before the law.
 

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...So either you give them more accurate weapons that they can aim at military only, or you argue that its illegal that they defend themselves against foreign occupation with whatever means they have at hand.....

Holy shit. Only you would suggest giving Hamas better weapons instead of condemning them for war crimes/terrorism.

Launching rockets at civilian populations IS NOT SELF DEFENSE. All of the rights groups you claim to support condemn the act as terrorism and war crimes but here you are saying it's okay for Palestinians to be terrorists.

You have gone from racist double standards right to outright justifying terrorism. You are a complete fraud but I appreciate you once again making clear that you are driven by racism and nor human rights.
 

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Meanwhile Hamas cracks down on Gaza protests over cost of living. In Israel, Muslims have rights, they can demonstrate and protest when they want and where they want, because Israel is democratic state; But in Gaza, Hamas is terrorizing even its own citizens; Where are the UN when Israel isn't involved?

Hamas forces in the Gaza Strip have forcibly dispersed hundreds of Palestinians protesting dire living conditions in the blockaded territory

Hamas forces in the Gaza Strip on Thursday forcibly dispersed hundreds of Palestinians protesting dire living conditions in the blockaded territory.
Videos circulated on social media showed police firing live rounds in the air, beating protesters and hauling them into police vehicles. Hamas says it is restoring order after demonstrators burned tires and blocked roads.

Rights groups say Hamas arrested a dozen activists this week who were organizing the rally under the slogan: "We want to live." The protests were centered in the northern Jebaliya refugee camp, with smaller gatherings across the territory.

https://twitter.com/LocalFocus1/status/1106269341157412865

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/hamas-cracks-gaza-protests-cost-living-61687860

SideNote: I just seen a video of Hamas shooting their own protesters. I won't post it.
 

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Launching rockets at civilian populations IS NOT SELF DEFENSE.
But using snipers on civilians is?
Your morals are totally fucked.

Netanyahu funds Hamas in order to keep Palestinians divided, he's now said again that he would never allow a Palestinian state nor take back any of the land that has been stolen over the last 50 years.
Acquisition of land through military means is a war crime.

Why do you still support these war crimes?
Why do you support killing Palestinian civilians and state that its only a crime to kill Jewish citizens?
Why do you not allow Palestinians the same basic human rights you accord to Israeli Jewish citizens?
 

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Sorry but instead of condemning Hamas' arsenal of war crime/terrorist weapons you suggested they be given better weapons.

That completely destroyed any of claim that you support human rights (not only that you are opposed money being sent to alleviate Gaza poverty simply because Israel is involved).

...So either you give them more accurate weapons that they can aim at military only, or you argue that its illegal that they defend themselves against foreign occupation with whatever means they have at hand.....
 

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Sorry but instead of condemning Hamas' arsenal of war crime/terrorist weapons you suggested they be given better weapons.

That completely destroyed any of claim that you support human rights (not only that you are opposed money being sent to alleviate Gaza poverty simply because Israel is involved).
I know you believe that Israeli Jews deserve human rights and Palestinians don't, but does that also include the right to self defence?
You constantly tout that the military occupation has a right to 'self defence' yet would never admit that Palestinians also have a right to self defence, would you?

Its just another example of your apartheid beliefs, isn't it?
 

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I know ...
... that your only option is to make up ridiculous accusations about others but fact is, instead of condemning Hamas for their terror tools you recommended they be given better weapons.

Of course you intentionally ignore that Hamas makes no distinction between civilians and military as long as they are Jews such as celebrating the guy who stole a gun and fired at random cars today.


And no, TERRORISM IS NOT SELF DEFENCE. All of those rights groups you pretend to listen to agree with me on this but you will still stick to your racist double standard.
 

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...Netanyahu funds Hamas in order to keep Palestinians divided, he's now said again that he would never allow a Palestinian state nor take back any of the land that has been stolen over the last 50 years...
Don't want to defend Netanhahu, but he does not fund Hamas. Qatar and Iran do. And it's not Israel's fault the Palestinians are (and have always been) divided into factions.
 

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... that your only option is to make up ridiculous accusations about others but fact is, instead of condemning Hamas for their terror tools you recommended they be given better weapons.

Of course you intentionally ignore that Hamas makes no distinction between civilians and military as long as they are Jews such as celebrating the guy who stole a gun and fired at random cars today.


And no, TERRORISM IS NOT SELF DEFENCE. All of those rights groups you pretend to listen to agree with me on this but you will still stick to your racist double standard.
I agree, terrorism is not self defence.

Hamas rockets aren't terrorism, they are a war crime as they can't be aimed at military targets only.
If they could aim them and aimed them only at civilians that would be terrorism, but since you have no idea what they are aimed at then they are just war crimes, not terrorism.

You are once again trying to use the word 'terrorism' to dehumanize Palestinians.

If 'terrorism' means targeting civilians than you should be admitting that shooting civilian protesters every Friday for a year is terrorism.
And as you just said:

TERRORISM IS NOT SELF DEFENCE.

So stop fucking shooting civilians and stop defending shooting civilians.
Terrorism is not self defence.
 

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TERRORISM IS NOT SELF DEFENCE.
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Yet here you are arguing that Hamas firing rockets at civilian populations is self defense and saying they should be given better weapons. How about condemning them and saying they shouldn't fire those rockets.
 

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Don't want to defend Netanhahu, but he does not fund Hamas. Qatar and Iran do. And it's not Israel's fault the Palestinians are (and have always been) divided into factions.
Everything is Israel's fault. And of course if Israel didn't let the Qatari money in fraudfooter would be bitching about that.
 

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Yet here you are arguing that Hamas firing rockets at civilian populations
That is the point, you can't aim their rockets at civilian or military targets.
As such, they aren't terrorism since you can't tell us that they are aimed at civilians or military.
That's why the are war crimes.

You have to prove intent to aim them at civilians, like the way Israel uses snipers to shoot civilians every Friday for the last year.

Try again.
 

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That is the point, you can't aim their rockets at civilian or military targets.
As such, they aren't terrorism since you can't tell us that they are aimed at civilians or military.
That's why the are war crimes.
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Don't you realize how weak your argument is if you support Hamas rockets because they are war crimes and not terrorism? And I don't have to prove anything. Your rights groups have condemned Hamas and the Western world has condemned Hamas for being a terrorist group.


It's disgusting that you claim that these war crimes/terrorism are self defence and suggest Hamas be given better weapons.


p.s. Hamas has repeatedly stated it makes no distinction between Jewish civilians and military targets.
 

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Don't you realize how weak your argument is if you support Hamas rockets
I don't support them, they should stop them and be charged for the war crimes of firing.
Just as I don't support Israeli snipers shooting civilian protesters every Friday for a year.

What a ridiculous thing to say.

Just hold both sides to the law equally.
Give them equal rights or their country back.
Stop stealing more of their land and shooting them when they protest about it.

Duh.
 

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I don't support them, they should stop them and be charged for the war crimes of firing....
So now you say Hamas should stop and arrest Hamas when they launch rockets :der: .
But yes, in this thread you openly supported rockets as "self defence" and recently tried to excuse Hamas' decision to launch hundreds of rockets.


p.s. If you really wanted equal rights you would condemn Hamas who outright rejects the idea and the Palestinian public who overwhelmingly oppose it.

p.p.s. The Gaza protests are nothing to do with settlements and Hamas sees all of Israel as "stolen" land.
 
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