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15 Reasons Why Toronto Is The Worst City In North America For Men

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Roosh V claims to travel the world as a PUA then blogs about it. Who knows if he really does. Sounds expensive and he should get a life

These are his thoughts on Toronto


https://www.rooshv.com/15-reasons-why-toronto-is-the-worst-city-in-north-america-for-men


1. Girls are more excited about getting late night food than having sex

Do you remember how excited you were as a kid on Christmas when opening up the hot toy of the season? Well that’s how groups of Toronto girls act at last call when they realize it’s time to stuff their face with hot dogs, poutine, or diner fare. I thought women in DC were a little weird about getting pizza after the bars close, but the women of Toronto take it to another level—they have a plan to eat junk food before they even start drinking.

2. Girls cockblock more than anywhere else in the world

Good luck trying to have a ten minute non-interrupted conversation in a bar or club if her friends are nearby. If they don’t physically pull her away from you then what happens is that a rotating gaggle of women will come to “check up” on her, as if you’re on the verge of beating or raping her in full view of everyone. I’ve never seen such baby-like behavior in the Western world. I even experienced a case where the fat friend of a girl I was talking to said that I could “proceed” with the conversation. Fuck that.

3. Girls think they are cooler than they actually are

In DC you have a bunch of lame people who think they are important because of their government job. In Toronto you have a bunch of lame people who think they are cool because… I don’t know why. This is even worse because instead of trying to impress you with the work they’re doing, they try to impress you with slang, name-dropping, or commenting on how “busy” they are. I remember when a girl tried to insult me by calling me a “fucktard” and another white bread girl said to “get at” her. Just because you know the words to a Drake song and go to hip restaurants doesn’t make you cool.

4. Girls are obese

I’m afraid that America has to take some blame for this because it seems that the our lifestyle has corrupted Canadian girls. It’s a shame because a lot of them have cute faces (they’re more attractive overall than DC chicks), but once you catch sight of her fat arms and the muffin top she’s trying to hide by wearing black, you start thinking of the porn clip you’ll soon be masturbating to.


5. Girls don’t give eye contact

I know some girls are reading right now and thinking, “They don’t give you eye contact because you are ugly!” This very well may be the case, but in Montreal I got daily eye contact from women who were much better looking than the Toronto specimens I had to deal with. Not only that, but Montreal women would smile at me. Yes, you read that right: attractive women would look at me and smile. In Toronto I might as well have been invisible.

6. You have to be approved by the “mother hen”

Every social circle in Toronto has an overweight woman who acts as a leader of the pack. She is the one who tells girls where to go and who to talk to. Apparently this is how she gets power in life since she’s unable to exert the upper hand over men due to her unattractive and portly appearance. If the mother hen doesn’t approve of you then you will not get laid. She can snap her fingers and her minions jump to attention so that they are not excluded from the tribe. Therefore not only do you have to build attraction with the girl you like, but you also have to charm a fat and ugly girl to give you permission to just continue the interaction.

7. Too many Asian and Indian girls

I think legal immigration is a great thing because it allows people from third world countries to lift their station and have a go at a first world lifestyle, but if you like white girls, a place like Toronto just won’t do. At any bar at least 30% of the female clientele will be filled with minority races that don’t appeal to discriminating men like myself. While the Asian girls weren’t that bad since they adopted a white manner of appearance, the Indian girls were absolutely not attractive.

8. Ugly girls are desperate while attractive girls are inaccessible

It shouldn’t be much of a challenge if you want to bang a Toronto girl who is a 5 or below. She will approach you, smile at you, and be generally easy (though of course you’ll still need game to seal the deal). In the accidental conversations I had with these unattractive women, I wished I had lower standards so that I could have mostly carefree sex that happens a million times a day in most parts of the world. In Toronto, however, once you get into the 6 range, the difficulty of banging increases in shocking fashion. The 6’s and 7’s give you attitude or are encased in huge social groups. The 8’s and above, if you happen to see them, already have dudes.

9. The entrenched PUA culture is raising the egos of all women

I thought that Washington DC had a strong pickup culture, but I hadn’t been to Toronto. PUAs are like rats in Toronto, infecting many venues with their fake high energy, puffed-out chests, loud fashion accessories, and total sobriety. On Thursday night I went to Madison Avenue Pub where I got to see at least 50 of them approach every woman in the bar. As much as I want to hate on them for increasing the girls’ bitch shields, I now understand why they do it: they have to. The best game in Toronto is not being an interesting man but just approaching a million girls with your freezeouts and spin moves and negs until you find the horny girl who wants to fuck.

10. Last call is at 2am

It wouldn’t be so bad if venues didn’t get hopping until midnight, but two hours is simply not enough time to find a good venue, mingle, and meet an attractive woman who you want to take home. By the time you get warmed up, it’s time to go. In Toronto you won’t have enough time for a real seduction, so what you see at the end of the night is a bunch of phone numbers being exchanged before girls rush off to a diner to stuff their face.

11. If you make just one mistake with a Toronto girl, you will be rejected

Your conversation has to be 100% perfect and 100% politically correct. You can’t say anything that can be remotely construed as offensive, weird, or needy. Once I told a girl that I like “feminine women” and she immediately ditched me as if I farted. In Toronto the best game is to speak like you’re a White House spokesperson. And god help you if you utter a lame joke! In one case I was talking to a girl for 30 minutes and had kept the conversation tight enough that we were getting to the kissing stage. Then I made a mediocre joke and she said, “Wow that was corny. I should leave now.” This came from a woman who didn’t say one interesting or funny thing to me all night and thought I would be impressed with her “marketing” job. Toronto women would absolutely never get laid if they were men.

12. It’s very expensive

Food, drinks, taxis, and lodging are all more expensive than DC. Do you get any additional value for paying more? Nope, you only get crappier women and intolerable weather.

13. It’s a suburban city

Most of the people who party within the center on weekends actually live in boring cul-de-sacs. Friday and Saturday nights in Toronto is like how Washington DC is on New Year’s Eve: amateur hour. You get a bunch of office drones with no character or class crowding venues and acting like they’ve never seen alcohol or the opposite sex before. My best night out was Monday because there was a total lack of 905’ers.

14. It takes a lot of work to date up

I never saw an average-looking guy with a hot girl, but I saw many attractive guys with average girls. Toronto is a penis paradise where a woman can date a man much more attractive than she is pretty. If you’re not a good looking guy, you either have to own a nightclub or approach 100 girls a week.

15. It beats men down

I saw too many men who looked like corpses. They had no color, no energy, and seemingly no will to live. Spending too much time in Toronto will reduce your ambition, your horniness, and your happiness. Many guys I talked to said that when they traveled abroad, they couldn’t believe that hotter women made regular eye contact with them and responded with gentle smiles and warm vibes. Toronto is one of those cities that can make men hate life. Staying out of here becomes essential for your mental health.
 

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I agree with him on the bolded part of point #15

"15. It beats men down

I saw too many men who looked like corpses. They had no color, no energy, and seemingly no will to live. Spending too much time in Toronto will reduce your ambition, your horniness, and your happiness. Many guys I talked to said that when they traveled abroad, they couldn’t believe that hotter women made regular eye contact with them and responded with gentle smiles and warm vibes. Toronto is one of those cities that can make men hate life. Staying out of here becomes essential for your mental health."
 

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Know little about Roosh V but what I do know I do not like


He seems to do nothing but treat women like sex objects. My advice is to treat them like humans.

The points he makes I think are interesting

Girls cockblock more than anywhere else in the world


Me thinks they were rescuing their friend from Roosh v after she signaled for help


Girls think they are cooler than they actually are

Roosh V thinks he is cooler than he is


Girls are obese


I have not been around the world like Roosh claims so I cannot compare but I think it is brutal to reject someone because they have an obesity issue


Girls don’t give eye contact

The right girl loves eye contact but, from my limited experience, I do think he is right that they initiate eye contact and smile more in Quebec



Too many Asian and Indian girls

I agree. I am not racist but it is hard to cross the ethnicity gap


Ugly girls are desperate while attractive girls are inaccessible


If you cannot see the hypocrisy in this comment I will not explain it


The entrenched PUA culture is raising the egos of all women


I never noticed Toronto is full of cheap PUAs that make women defensive. Is he right?




Many guys I talked to said that when they traveled abroad, they couldn’t believe that hotter women made regular eye contact with them and responded with gentle smiles and warm vibes.


Is this true?
 

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I have never heard of this guy and could not give a rat's ass what he thinks of Toronto women. His supposed "opinion" is just a bunch non-sense rambling that sounds like sour grapes because the women do not pay any attention to him. Nowadays, any moron with no social skills and half a brain can create a blog and spew a bunch of idiotic ideas.
 

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rooshv is a closet case he claims that "Liking female butts is ‘gateway to homosexuality’"

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/01/29/roosh-v-butts-homosexuality/
Meh I actually agree with what you linked
If you read the link he says anal sex is gross / unnatural etc
Its not simply admiring the human form


1. Girls are more excited about getting late night food than having sex

2. Girls cockblock more than anywhere else in the world

3. Girls think they are cooler than they actually are

7. Too many Asian and Indian girls

12. It’s very expensive

13. It’s a suburban city
1 is funny but true... it amazes me how often a girl decides she wants to eat somewhere after midnight. Bad for your health and just funny he brings it up.
2 dunno if true about worst in world but this leads into 3
3 too many millennials and youtube stars these days lol
7 funny how he equates it to "legal" immigration
12 Toronto is insanely priced, even compared to neighbouring cities
13 yup massive pain in the ass, downtown core + alcohol + crappy transit systems + massively annoying when you and her both realize you are headed to opposite ends of the city
 

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These 15 excuses for this guy not getting laid are not exclusive to Toronto, cities are the same all over Canada
 

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I would say that every single point made, except for numbers 7 and 10, apply to every large city in N. America. Sure there will be some variations, and small sample individual experiences will skew one's impressions, but people who live in large metropolitan areas have commonalities, such as being more impersonal.

A couple of examples: #8: Ugly girls in every city are desperate and attractive girls in every city play harder to get.

#4: Does Toronto have more fat girls than other cities?

So guys who are having a hard time picking up girls and blaming conditions in Toronto, start looking in the mirror because you will probably not do any significantly better in other large, impersonal, expensive, hectic cities. BTW, I was always bad at picking up girls, so I know it can be frustrating, but one has to be realistic as to why.
 

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I have never heard of this guy and could not give a rat's ass what he thinks of Toronto women. His supposed "opinion" is just a bunch non-sense rambling that sounds like sour grapes because the women do not pay any attention to him. Nowadays, any moron with no social skills and half a brain can create a blog and spew a bunch of idiotic ideas.
+1 on this
 

SexB

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You just know that every time Roosh "Basement Dweller" V. spews forth his drivel, that girl in high school who politely turned him down when he asked her out ears start burning.

And CM once again surprises me; considering some of the other nonsense he posts, I'd think he'd be a fan of Douche Vile. Once again, I think my derisive nickname for him should become "Broken Clock Man".
 

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Roosh is an idiot, a terrible human being, and can (and should) be completely ignored. Anyone who self-identifies as a “pick-up artist” is someone you should not be listening to, and Roosh is possibly the worst of them all. He’s pretty much the progenitor of the MGTOW/incel movements.
 

SexB

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Roosh is an idiot, a terrible human being, and can (and should) be completely ignored. Anyone who self-identifies as a “pick-up artist” is someone you should not be listening to, and Roosh is possibly the worst of them all. He’s pretty much the progenitor of the MGTOW/incel movements.
Have you seen one of the members of his flock; Matt Forney?

He looks like the type of guy whose every status update was a bunch of whiny "friend zoned nice guy" crap until he discovered Return of Kings and followed bleating happily.
 

james t kirk

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Guy sounds like a self absorbed prick and a phonie.

Women can smell that a mile away.

Besides, I love Indian women. (And I'm a white (almost pink) man.)
 

K Douglas

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Guy sounds like a self absorbed prick and a phonie.

Women can smell that a mile away.

Besides, I love Indian women. (And I'm a white (almost pink) man.)
I'm with you there are some very attractive EI women in this city. And they dress to impress when hitting the club scene here. And generally have a more open attitude then Caucasian women.
 

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GTA & Thereabouts...
I just learned a long time ago to love everyone. You can find nice traits in all.

I'm sure Jesus said something similar.
 

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Never had a complaint about the quality and variety of talent in this city, nor getting civvy dates and action when thats what I wanted. The diversity is what makes Toronto awesome.
 
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