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GameBoy27

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OMG, a politician pressured another politician to make a decision, which involved a new policy they were figuring out as well as Canadian jobs.
oooh, such a scandal.
It was not just "a" politician doing the pressuring. And the person they were pressuring was the AG. That's a big no-no, in any government. Trudeau needs to stop muzzling Philpott and JWR. Canadians deserve to hear their full story. If nothing happened as JT claims, why not let them speak? How unfeminist of him!
 

bver_hunter

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It was not just "a" politician doing the pressuring. And the person they were pressuring was the AG. That's a big no-no, in any government. Trudeau needs to stop muzzling Philpott and JWR. Canadians deserve to hear their full story. If nothing happened as JT claims, why not let them speak? How unfeminist of him!
Past Governments like the very hypocritical Conservative ones were the biggest "muzzlers". They blocked their backbenchers from revealing their private members bills etc.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/01/27/maurice-vellacott-harper-muzzling_n_4676307.html

How undemocratic was that?? Yet Junior Harper oops Scheer, is now trying to get certain MPs to "open up". Sheer hypocrisy!!
 

GameBoy27

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Past Governments like the very hypocritical Conservative ones were the biggest "muzzlers". They blocked their backbenchers from revealing their private members bills etc.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/01/27/maurice-vellacott-harper-muzzling_n_4676307.html

How undemocratic was that?? Yet Junior Harper oops Scheer, is now trying to get certain MPs to "open up". Sheer hypocrisy!!
I agree, blocking their private members' bills wasn't right. Thanks for pointing out something from 5 years ago. Perhaps you would like to start a thread on it. But it has nothing to do with the topic at hand, which is about SNC-Lavalin.
 

bver_hunter

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I agree, blocking their private members' bills wasn't right. Thanks for pointing out something from 5 years ago. Perhaps you would like to start a thread on it. But it has nothing to do with the topic at hand, which is about SNC-Lavalin.
Just trying to display the hypocrisy that exists over affairs that are sweet nothings. All the right wingers are condemning the Liberal Government over what is not a crime, but were then defending the Harper Government for his lack of transparency. So very relevant and no need of starting another thread. The Justice Committee decided that there was no further need for JWR to testify and that is it. Do get over it!!
 

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Just trying to display the hypocrisy that exists over affairs that are sweet nothings. All the right wingers are condemning the Liberal Government over what is not a crime, but were then defending the Harper Government for his lack of transparency. So very relevant and no need of starting another thread. The Justice Committee decided that there was no further need for JWR to testify and that is it. Do get over it!!
I don't think the voters will "get over it".

I think they will remember this quite clearly in October.
 

bver_hunter

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I don't think the voters will "get over it".

I think they will remember this quite clearly in October.
Just like they did for the so called India trip "scandal", that saw Trudeau's popularity go back up. I think even the Canadians are now much more resistance to pettiness, since they have been closely scrutinizing what someone like Trump has been getting away with!!
 

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I don't think the voters will "get over it".

I think they will remember this quite clearly in October.
Certainly the daily news stories, all saying the same nothings, might give you that impression.
But there was no crime and there isn't likely to be anything else revealed that's a big deal.
 

Butler1000

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Just like they did for the so called India trip "scandal", that saw Trudeau's popularity go back up. I think even the Canadians are now much more resistance to pettiness, since they have been closely scrutinizing what someone like Trump has been getting away with!!
This isn't about embarassing himself by practically mocking racial stereotypes.

It's about misuse of the PM office power to garner votes by cowtowing to a multinational. About Interference in a criminal matter for political gain.

This one isn't going away.
 

Butler1000

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Certainly the daily news stories, all saying the same nothings, might give you that impression.
But there was no crime and there isn't likely to be anything else revealed that's a big deal.
What has been revealed is the PM is not transparent, is a liar, a hypocrite, possibly corrupted by multinationals, a fake Feminist, petulant, emotionally immature, and has a very thin skin.
 

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What has been revealed is the PM is not transparent, is a liar, a hypocrite, possibly corrupted by multinationals, a fake Feminist, petulant, emotionally immature, and has a very thin skin.
Considering the crap that you've defended Trump for over the last couple of years, this is fricking hilarious.
The only hypocrite here is you.
 

bver_hunter

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This isn't about embarassing himself by practically mocking racial stereotypes.
Nowhere did I come across the slander that it was done to "mock racial stereotypes". Unless you are confused with either the PGOTUS down South or some Alt Right Newsmedia that your arguments always tie up with!!

It's about misuse of the PM office power to garner votes by cowtowing to a multinational. About Interference in a criminal matter for political gain.

This one isn't going away.
This criminal matter is still being addressed by the Court. Off course, the Government have every right to be concerned that Canadian Companies as a whole will suffer thanks to one or two upper management individuals who are no longer in the Company and have been already charged. Again, the fact was that even the CEO of SNC-Lavalin denied that there was any contact with the PM or his aides. The only one that he met up with is guess who........ ANDREW SCHEER who promised to be "VERY SUPPORTIVE"!!

SNC-Lavalin boss says company could lose 9,000 jobs overseas, despite evidence to contrary:

If convicted of fraud and bribery charges, SNC-Lavalin could end up being taken over by another company and its 9,000 jobs in Canada could move abroad, the engineering firm's CEO told Radio-Canada in an interview today.

Bruce said that he met Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer on three occasions and the Opposition leader was "very supportive" of the company.
Scheer has since been tearing into the Liberals daily over the SNC-Lavalin scandal — which was touched off by former justice minister and attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould's allegation that officials in the Prime Minister's Office and elsewhere in government inappropriately pressured her to clear a remediation agreement for the company.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/neil-bruce-snc-lavalin-radio-canada-1.5065042

We see more and more hypocrisy from the Conservatives and yet they are not only the biggest empty vessels that make the most noise, but also display their Scheer, oops SHEER HYPOCRISY!!
 

GameBoy27

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Just trying to display the hypocrisy that exists over affairs that are sweet nothings. All the right wingers are condemning the Liberal Government over what is not a crime, but were then defending the Harper Government for his lack of transparency. So very relevant and no need of starting another thread. The Justice Committee decided that there was no further need for JWR to testify and that is it. Do get over it!!
Although a crime may not have been committed, I think Canadians deserve to hear the whole story. If there's nothing to see here, why have 4 prominent Liberal members resigned?

You mean the Liberal dominated Justice Committee decided there was no reason to hear from JWR. Well duh!

Just like they did for the so called India trip "scandal", that saw Trudeau's popularity go back up. I think even the Canadians are now much more resistance to pettiness, since they have been closely scrutinizing what someone like Trump has been getting away with!!
Not even close to the same thing. How many Liberals resigned over the India trip?

Certainly the daily news stories, all saying the same nothings, might give you that impression.
But there was no crime and there isn't likely to be anything else revealed that's a big deal.
One thing's for sure, Liberals are certainly doing their best to make sure no one else speaks. No crime may have been committed, but the optics stink.

Liberals are hanging themselves left, right and center on this one.
 

GameBoy27

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As hard as the Liberals try, apparently this isn't going away anytime soon. And they only have themselves to blame.

Wilson-Raybould to provide emails, texts and written statement on SNC-Lavalin affair.

Jody Wilson-Raybould says she will provide a written statement and copies of text messages and emails to the Commons justice committee that shut down its probe of the SNC-Lavalin affair.

This week, the Liberal MPs who hold the majority on the committee voted to close down the inquiry without recalling the former attorney general and justice minister to testify a second time in response to other witnesses.

In a letter today to the committee chair, Liberal MP Anthony Housefather, Wilson-Raybould said she would respond to a request to provide copies of texts and emails she cited in her Feb. 27 testimony before the committee.

"Related to these requests, I also have relevant facts and evidence in my possession that further clarify statements I made and elucidate the accuracy and nature of statements by witnesses in testimony that came after my committee appearance," she wrote.

"As such, in response to these requests, and consistent with the standard practice of the committee of receiving written submissions, I will be providing a written submission to the committee in relation to matters within the confines of the waiver of cabinet confidence and solicitor-client privilege."

Housefather said submissions to the committee are not automatically made public but it's the committee's general practice to do so — except in the case of personal information, such as cell phone numbers or email addresses, which would be redacted.

Political wrangling over claims that PMO officials and others in government inappropriately pressured the former attorney general to override a decision to prosecute SNC-Lavalin on bribery charges overshadowed the Liberal budget this week.

The Conservatives triggered a marathon vote in the Commons that lasted 31 hours to protest the Liberals' decision to shut down the committee before bringing back Wilson-Raybould.

Adding to the uproar was a Maclean's interview with former cabinet minister Jane Philpott, in which she insisted there is "much more" to the SNC-Lavalin story and the Canadian public deserves to know more.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wilson-raybould-justice-snc-lavalin-1.5067543
 

bver_hunter

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Although a crime may not have been committed, I think Canadians deserve to hear the whole story. If there's nothing to see here, why have 4 prominent Liberal members resigned?

You mean the Liberal dominated Justice Committee decided there was no reason to hear from JWR. Well duh!
Yes, it is a Liberal dominated Justice Committee. They were elected by the Canadians, before being appointed Duh!!


Not even close to the same thing. How many Liberals resigned over the India trip?
This was in context to Trudeau's popularity and that of the party. It tanked then, but if you go through my posts, I clearly stated then that it would be water under the bridge. But the right wingers then said that he was toast. Within months Trudeau's popularity was back near his highest level that he achieved during the General Elections. This will be no different!!

By the way I posted in another thread that Andrew Scheer very recently was the only one to meet with the CEO of SNC-Lavalin. He was the one to state that he will be "very Supportive". to SNC-Lavalin's cause. This is something that he did not reveal to the Parliament itself, but had no problem that the Liberals were working towards the same cause!!
 

GameBoy27

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Yes, it is a Liberal dominated Justice Committee. They were elected by the Canadians, before being appointed Duh!!
While they have every right to try to prevent JWR from speaking further, the optics stink.

This was in context to Trudeau's popularity and that of the party. It tanked then, but if you go through my posts, I clearly stated then that it would be water under the bridge. But the right wingers then said that he was toast. Within months Trudeau's popularity was back near his highest level that he achieved during the General Elections. This will be no different!!
Whatever you say...
 
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