Linda Sarsour Links To Antisemitic Piece By Hate Site Mondoweiss

basketcase said:

Prove me wrong.

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Every day I prove you wrong and then you come back and lie all over again the next day.
I'm willing to state I fully back the HRW views on Hamas rockets as soon as you state that you accept all of HRW's reports.

Go ahead, do you support HRW's findings on Israel/Palestine or not?

Frankfooter said:

Every day I prove you wrong ...

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So where have you said that Hamas rockets have absolutely no legal basis (there are plenty of you making excuses or justifying those rockets)? Your refusal shows you don't care about Amnesty or HRW.

basketcase said:

So where have you said that Hamas rockets have absolutely no legal basis (there are plenty of you making excuses or justifying those rockets)? Your refusal shows you don't care about Amnesty or HRW.

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Please quote where both Amnesty and HRW say Hamas rockets have 'absolutely no legal basis' and I'll back it.
But only if you declare you accept all the findings by Amnesty and HRW.
Otherwise, what's the point, because if you don't trust their work, why would you need me to confirm it?

Frankfooter said:

Please quote where both Amnesty and HRW say Hamas rockets have 'absolutely no legal basis' and I'll back it....

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And there you go claiming the rockets are valid actions. Fucking pathetic.

Try reading the links I already gave you.

Unlawful and deadly: Palestinian rocket attacks from Gaza
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/unlawful-and-deadly-palestinian-rocket-attacks-gaza

What part of "Unlawful" do you not get?

Gaza: Palestinian Rockets Unlawfully Targeted Israeli Civilians
https://www.hrw.org/news/2012/12/24/gaza-palestinian-rockets-unlawfully-targeted-israeli-civilians

Seems that HRW doesn't disagrees with you about the targeting civilians part.

basketcase said:

And there you go claiming the rockets are valid actions. Fucking pathetic.

Try reading the links I already gave you.

Unlawful and deadly: Palestinian rocket attacks from Gaza
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/unlawful-and-deadly-palestinian-rocket-attacks-gaza

What part of "Unlawful" do you not get?

Gaza: Palestinian Rockets Unlawfully Targeted Israeli Civilians
https://www.hrw.org/news/2012/12/24/gaza-palestinian-rockets-unlawfully-targeted-israeli-civilians

Seems that HRW doesn't disagrees with you about the targeting civilians part.

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Hilarious, you're very upset about a statement I never made. Typical hasbara troll, straw man action there zailbetter.

Again:

As soon as you accept all the findings in those two reports and accept that all the reports from both Amnesty and HRW are legit and should result in investigations and charges as merited, I will totally support those two reports.
Because if you don't see Amnesty and HRW's work as totally legit, why did you post it and why should I back it?

So its up to you, zailbetter.
Do you back all of Amnesty and HRW's reports or not?

Frankfooter said:

Hilarious, you're very upset about a statement I never made....

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Just proof that your use of Amnesty and HRW statements has nothing to do with human rights. You claim to support them but routinely argue against their statements that Gaza rockets are illegal and targeting of civilians. Your posting history is clear, you think any attack against Israel or Israelis is justified yet continually cry about human rights when Israel acts against perpetrators of violence.

Why would you expect anyone to accept Amnesty and HRW when you consistently argue against them any time they criticize Palestinians?

basketcase said:

Just proof that your use of Amnesty and HRW statements has nothing to do with human rights.

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Nope.

But why all this fuss about reports from organizations that you say you don't support them?
I'm willing to say I support investigations and charges based on those entire reports, but you won't, will you?
You are a total fraud who refuses to hold Israelis to the same laws you want Palestinians to obey.

Just as you continue to support gunning down children, as happens nearly every week in Gaza.

Israeli forces shoot 66 Palestinians at Gaza protest, killing 15-year-old boy

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https://mondoweiss.net/2019/04/israeli-palestinians-protest/

You cheer that happening just as much as you cheer for this happening.

Masked Jewish Settlers Filmed Attacking Palestinian Family; No Arrests Were Made

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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...sts-were-made-idf-calls-it-friction-1.7112783

That is what you support.

Frankfooter said:

Nope.....

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You claim to support them but you argue the polar opposite of their opinions. And I will continue to call you on this until you either stop your bullshit double standard or you actually start condemning Palestinian factions when those groups do.


And you are a disgusting piece of shit liar since every time you are backed into a corner and respond with patently false accusations of others being racist. I have repeatedly called out Jewish terrorists and have absolutely no problem calling them terrorists. You on the other hand refuse to admit that Hamas gunning down people at bus stops or planting bombs on public transit are terrorism and refer to Palestinian violence as "protests" even when they are doing the exact same acts as the Jewish terrorists you (rightfully) complain about.

But how can you criticize that Israel hasn't arrested anyone yet but not say a negative word when Hamas praises terror attacks and the PA pays salaries to the terrorists and their families?

basketcase said:

And you are a disgusting piece of shit liar

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Tone it down, basketcase, insults like that will get you banned.

I'm sorry that being called out for supporting gunning down women and children, for supporting apartheid and for attack calls for the law to be obeyed by both sides makes you so angry.
You really should learn to support the Canadian way of equal rights and the equal application of the law as well as respect for human rights reports.

Frankfooter said:

Tone it down, basketcase, insults like that will get you banned.

I'm sorry that being called out for supporting gunning down women and children, for supporting apartheid and for attack calls for the law to be obeyed by both sides makes you so angry.
You really should learn to support the Canadian way of equal rights and the equal application of the law as well as respect for human rights reports.

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Don't you like the truth?

I have no problem condemning terrorists, even the Jewish ones.

And speaking of Canadian values, Canada and most of the Western, democratic world consider Hamas to be terrorists. And while you have no problem accusing Israel and Israelis or terrorism (even fringe hate groups that only speak hatred) but pretend it is racist to refer to Hamas as terrorists.

And Hamas is as far away from Canadian values as almost any government on the planet yet you don't want to criticize them for it because that would interfere with your obsession about Israel.

basketcase said:

Don't you like the truth?

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You calling this the truth?

basketcase said:

And you are a disgusting piece of shit liar

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Equal rights really makes you mad, doesn't it, basketcase?
Holding both side to the law would really upset you, right?

Frankfooter said:

You calling this the truth?


Equal rights really makes you mad, doesn't it, basketcase?
Holding both side to the law would really upset you, right?

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Yes it is the truth. Every time you lose an argument you post patently false accusations that are contradicted by my posting history. You flat out lie because you know your stance regarding Israel is driven by a racist obsession and not human rights.

Equal rights makes Hamas mad and they completely reject the idea but you don't criticize Hamas' view on it. The vast majority of Palestinians oppose the idea but in your elitism you think their views don't matter because you want to tell them what to do. If you actually support equal rights, why do you refuse to criticize Hamas and the Palestinian populace who completely reject you idea?


p.s. Equal rights means equal criticism. I criticize Jewish terrorists when they attack random Palestinians and I criticize Palestinian terrorists like Hamas when they attack random Israeli Jews. Despite your talk of equal rights, your criticisms sure as hell aren't equal or based on any moral compass.

basketcase said:

And you are a disgusting piece of shit liar

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basketcase said:

Yes it is the truth.

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So you think I am a piece of shit for calling for international laws to be upheld on both sides based on human rights reports from HRW, Amnesty, B'teselem and the UN.
While you continue to lie repeatedly by claiming fraudulently that I don't want the law and human rights to be applied equally.

Sorry, dude, but you are the one supporting state terrorism, apartheid and gunning down civilians every Friday.
You need a new mirror.

Frankfooter said:

So you think I am a piece of shit for calling for international laws to be upheld on both sides based on human rights reports from HRW, Amnesty, B'teselem and the UN....

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You are a piece of shit for making continual accusations that you know are untrue.

If you supported equal rights you would criticize Hamas for completely rejecting the concept instead of Israel which does have equal rights for all citizens.

If you supported Amnesty and HRW you wouldn't post stuff like this.

Frankfooter said:

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Now, your second claim is that they have 'war crimes weapons' aimed at Israel. There is a massive problem with your statement, those rockets are only considered war crimes because they can't be accurately aimed only at military structures.
So either you give them more accurate weapons that they can aim at military only, or you argue that its illegal that they defend themselves against foreign occupation with whatever means they have at hand.....

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https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?668861-Rockets-Fired-At-Tel-Aviv-From-Gaza

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Sorry, dude, but you are the one supporting state terrorism, ...

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From the guy who says it's wrong to accuse a country of state terrorism (as long as they hate Israel).

basketcase said:

You are a piece of shit for making continual accusations that you know are untrue.

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basketcase said:

And you are a disgusting piece of shit liar

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basketcase said:

Yes it is the truth.

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So you think I am a piece of shit for calling for international laws to be upheld on both sides based on human rights reports from HRW, Amnesty, B'teselem and the UN.
While you continue to lie repeatedly by claiming fraudulently that I don't want the law and human rights to be applied equally.

Sorry, dude, but you are the one supporting state terrorism, apartheid and gunning down civilians every Friday.
You need a new mirror.

Frankfooter said:

So you think I am a piece of shit for calling for international laws to be upheld on both sides based on human rights reports from HRW, Amnesty, B'teselem and the UN.
While you continue to lie repeatedly by claiming fraudulently that I don't want the law and human rights to be applied equally.

Sorry, dude, but you are the one supporting state terrorism, apartheid and gunning down civilians every Friday.
You need a new mirror.

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And you keep on proving you are a piece of shit for obsessively lying about what people say and making accusations that are completely contrary to their previous posts. You also refuse to accept what Amnesty and HRW say when they Criticize Hamas.


Speaking of mirrors, how do you feel about basing all your opinions on politics instead of morals?

basketcase said:

And you keep on proving you are a piece of shit for obsessively lying about what people say

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basketcase said:

You are a piece of shit for making continual accusations that you know are untrue.

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basketcase said:

And you are a disgusting piece of shit liar

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basketcase said:

Yes it is the truth.

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Here's the truth:
I back HRW and Amnesty's findings on both Israel and Hamas.
You refuse to accept their findings on Israel then accuse me of not accepting their findings.

My morals say racism is stupid and leads to horrific violence, whether from white nationalists, Islamic groups or Israeli snipers.
Yours says gunning down civilians is fine as long as they are Palestinian.

Frankfooter said:

Here's the truth:
I back HRW and Amnesty's findings on both Israel and Hamas....

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Yet you keep arguing against and ignoring their conclusions about Hamas.

Frankfooter said:

HRW and Amensty do not say they target civilians.
I agree with Amnesty and HRW, who say that the rockets are war crimes.
I also agree with Amnesty and HRW when they say that Israeli snipers are committing crimes against humanity, amongst other Israeli war crimes.

Do you also agree with both of those findings?

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Frankfooter said:

HRW says that the rockets are war crimes because they cannot be aimed at only military targets, not that they 'target civilians'....

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Pretty clear you are denying what I have previously posted from HRW.

Gaza: Palestinian Rockets Unlawfully Targeted Israeli Civilians
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“Palestinian armed groups made clear in their statements that harming civilians was their aim,”
https://www.hrw.org/news/2012/12/24/gaza-palestinian-rockets-unlawfully-targeted-israeli-civilians


p.s. HRW and Amnesty HAVE investigated. Why do you reject their conclusions while claiming to support what they have concluded?
And once again you argue against the rights groups you pretend to support.

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My morals say racism is stupid and leads to horrific violence,....

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So why do you refuse to even discuss racism and violence from Palestinian factions? You referred to a fringe hate group that was rejected by Israeli voters as terrorists but say it is racist to describe terrorists attacks from Hamas as terrorist attacks.


If you really believed what you claim you would have some very critical words for both Hamas and the PA but instead you stay silent because you see your political hatreds as more significant that a consistent sense of morals.