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Another bombshell story around the Wilson-Raybould affair

nottyboi

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No brainer is correct.
I bet you Justin / Gerald did not read the fine print of the law they just passed and missed the section that said "prosecutors are not allowed to consider national economic interests when deciding whether to settle with a company".

They thought they had solved the problem for their friend when they passed that law and tried to implement stage 2 of their corrupt plan, using national economic interests as a justification
What they did not anticipate is that JWR did read the fine print. As a lawyer and the Minister of Justice it is her responsibility to ensure that she understood the law clearly and how it must be applied.
She did her job. Think about that before you attack her again.

Did these two clowns get tripped up by their own law they passed specifically for SNC a few months before??

I am curious, do you know if any Federal Canadian politician has been charged for corruption in our countries history?
Have any non-elected political advisors been charged?
Can they be charged for stupidity?
The AG is NOT the prosecutor. ...are you literate, can you read? Good Lord. She declined to do what was in the best interest of Canada and for the govt so the PM removed her. Just for your education, here is an explaination of the situation from one of your fav right wing rags, if you are indeed able to read it:

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-p...ook-at-the-attorney-generals-power-to-step-in

JWR participated in creating the law then did not have the fortitude to follow through
 

Knuckle Ball

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It looks like the PM’s office did indeed try to pressure JWR into going easy on SNC. They seem to be claiming that there was nothing wrong with this because they were trying to protect jobs...So I guess the whole “Canada is a nation of laws” schtick is officially over.

https://twitter.com/cbcnews/status/1099051244444893184?s=21



Time for Trudeau to step down.


Once again, Progressives show their superior character and integrity...trump supporters would never say this about their emperor/god.
 

nottyboi

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Nonsense, all Trudeau is saying is that the govt must strike a balance between these principals. Good govt is striking a balance that works. If you can have justice, and jobs why not. He said the Judiciary is independant, not the justice system. Under the deferred prosecution law the settlement MUST be approved by an independant judge.
 

JohnLarue

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The AG is NOT the prosecutor. ...are you literate, can you read? Good Lord.
Apparently she views this differently. She is the Justice minister & Attorney General & is responsible for ensuring the proper administration of the law.
Beavis & Butthead planned an obvious and corrupt scheme months in advance to corrupt the administration of the law
 

nottyboi

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Apparently she views this differently. She is the Justice minister & Attorney General & is responsible for ensuring the proper administration of the law.
Beavis & Butthead planned an obvious and corrupt scheme months in advance to corrupt the administration of the law
Oh not at all, this is quite a common scheme used in many advanced economies around the world, its a criminal version of the civil chapter 11 proceedings.

How can she view it differently, its quite explicit in its discription in the law. The AG can overrule the prosecutor
 

JohnLarue

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Oh not at all, this is quite a common scheme used in many advanced economies around the world, its a criminal version of the civil chapter 11 proceedings.

How can she view it differently, its quite explicit in its discription in the law. The AG can overrule the prosecutor
Scheme being the defining word
So your position is the prosecutors can not intervene on the behalf of a friend, but a specific member of the Liberal party can
Perhaps Beavis and Butthead should have gotten her onside before they wrote & snuck in the new law.
It is really too bad that they assumed she would place the liberal parties interest ahead of her commitment to integrity & justice & that of the Canadian public
Was their underlying assumption that all Liberals are just as corrupt as they are?

You are defending corruption.
What is wrong with you?
Please slither away
 

nottyboi

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Scheme being the defining word
So your position is the prosecutors can not intervene on the behalf of a friend, but a specific member of the Liberal party can
Perhaps Beavis and Butthead should have gotten her onside before they wrote & snuck in the new law.
It is really too bad that they assumed she would place the liberal parties interest ahead of her commitment to integrity & justice & that of the Canadian public
Was their underlying assumption that all Liberals are just as corrupt as they are?

You are defending corruption.
What is wrong with you?
Please slither away
It was not only in the Liberals interest to do it, it was a path that is also good for Quebec, Canada and will still deliver justice. I don't understand why you right wingers always equate doing the "right thing" with hurting innocent people and doing economic damage
This type of law is quite common in other jurisdictions.
 

Frankfooter

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You are defending corruption.
What is wrong with you?
Please slither away
If this was Doug Ford you'd be saying that jobs are more important than morals in Libya.
There was no money involved, just the question of whether foreign policy should trump jobs.
No corruption at all, mr science.
 

wilbur

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Scheme being the defining word
So your position is the prosecutors can not intervene on the behalf of a friend, but a specific member of the Liberal party can
Perhaps Beavis and Butthead should have gotten her onside before they wrote & snuck in the new law.
It is really too bad that they assumed she would place the liberal parties interest ahead of her commitment to integrity & justice & that of the Canadian public
Was their underlying assumption that all Liberals are just as corrupt as they are?

You are defending corruption.
What is wrong with you?
Please slither away
In case you didn't know, it's politicians who make the laws, and that includes the intent of the law. The last time politicians didn't make the law was when the 10 Commandments were handed down to Moses.

If the Attorney General was truly independent, the post would be held by an independent person, not a politician. We have such independent persons in our legal system: Judges, and AG is not a judge.

The Attorney General sits in that position at the pleasure of the Prime Minister. The very reason the AG is a politician, is to protect the national interest.

Advising JWR about the potential consequences to the national economy of a successful prosecution is not applying undue pressure.

In any case, she may have been independent (some would say totally opinionated), but at the end of the day, the PM can remove her for any reason he wants in the national interest. As a Minister of the Crown, you play ball with your governing party.

Although the situation was totally mishandled, Trudeau had every right to fire her. Butts resigned because he's the one who headhunted JWR as a showcase star candidate, and it totally backfired on him and the party.

I now suspect that she's the one who rubber-stamped the arrest of Huawei executive Meng WanZhou, because of her narrow minded concepts of the Rule-Of-Law, much to the consternation of many senior Liberals, fearful of the harm to the economy resulting from instant bad relations with Canada's second largest trading partner.
 

Knuckle Ball

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Nonsense, all Trudeau is saying is that the govt must strike a balance between these principals. Good govt is striking a balance that works. If you can have justice, and jobs why not. He said the Judiciary is independant, not the justice system. Under the deferred prosecution law the settlement MUST be approved by an independant judge.
He obviously tried to sway JWR’s opinion. BAM...It’s over. Nothing else matters. JT needs to step down.
 

Knuckle Ball

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It was not only in the Liberals interest to do it, it was a path that is also good for Quebec, Canada and will still deliver justice. I don't understand why you right wingers always equate doing the "right thing" with hurting innocent people and doing economic damage
This type of law is quite common in other jurisdictions.

JT is not supposed to interfere. He interfered.

Stop making me defend the views of Right Wing losers. Progressives are better than this.

I want the Liberals to win the next election. JT fucked up. He needs to go. It’s over.
 

nottyboi

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JT is not supposed to interfere. He interfered.

Stop making me defend the views of Right Wing losers. Progressives are better than this.

I want the Liberals to win the next election. JT fucked up. He needs to go. It’s over.
Don't agree, are you saying he is not allowed to speak to the AG, it seems pretty clear he told her it was her decision, did not make any expression of preference or threat to her whatsoever.

The meeting where she ask him for direction on the file was actually to discuss why the indigionus justice file was not moving forward. Perhaps she sensed his disappointment and was baiting him. In either case, her failure on the native file was grounds for demotion and her asking him if he would direct her on SNC also was definitly grounds for demotion

Some liberals may be say nice or polite things about her, but trust me, she is hated in Liberal ranks now.
 
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