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Senator Bernie Sanders has Announced his Candidacy For President.

Butler1000

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Finally.

Now the campaign can begin.

And yes it is indeed a Great Day.
 

Frankfooter

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Finally.

Now the campaign can begin.

And yes it is indeed a Great Day.
Yes, indeed this is a banner day!

This is the day that butler1000 stops defending Trump and instead posts only about the merits of his guy, Bernie Sanders.
 

jcpro

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Too baby for Bernie. The landscape has changed dramatically since the last time. He's no longer an original, he's an also run in a new socialist reality. He probably has missed his opportunity.
 

Butler1000

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Too baby for Bernie. The landscape has changed dramatically since the last time. He's no longer an original, he's an also run in a new socialist reality. He probably has missed his opportunity.
I think The Trump Presidency has actually made it easier for his election. The larger threat is Biden. But I'm hopeful the Superdelegates not having power in the first ballot may make the difference.
 

Butler1000

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Yes, indeed this is a banner day!

This is the day that butler1000 stops defending Trump and instead posts only about the merits of his guy, Bernie Sanders.
I want Trump in office for the election. I'm sure he will be. He will be the catalyst for more corporatists to be outed.

And more progressives in Congress.
 

Frankfooter

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I want Trump in office for the election. I'm sure he will be. He will be the catalyst for more corporatists to be outed.

And more progressives in Congress.
Well, that only lasted about 5 minutes.
So much for butler1000 as an honest supporter of Bernie Sanders.
Its just back to defending Trump again.
 

Butler1000

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Well, that only lasted about 5 minutes.
So much for butler1000 as an honest supporter of Bernie Sanders.
Its just back to defending Trump again.
Nope. I back Bernie 100%. But his real obstacle is the Dem establishment who don't want him to get the Nom.

Beating Trump will be the easy part.
 

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There is an enormous amount of Hate within the Dem party towards Bernie, especially amongst disgruntled Hillary Supporters who blame him for her election loss and more generally having the audacity to run against her in the first place and throw stink bombs during her coronation. If Bernie wins the nomination, these people will either abstain from voting or support a third candidate.

The Dem party is an angry, fucked up place.

I still hope Bernie wins, tho...LOL!

Feel the Bern!
 

Butler1000

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There is an enormous amount of Hate within the Dem party towards Bernie, especially amongst disgruntled Hillary Supporters who blame him for her election loss and more generally having the audacity to run against her in the first place and throw stink bombs during her coronation. If Bernie wins the nomination, these people will either abstain from voting or support a third candidate.

The Dem party is an angry, fucked up place.

I still hope Bernie wins, tho...LOL!

Feel the Bern!
People forget he won 22 states and due to local primary rules had more taken away by superdelegates.

This time he also has a machine that has been working and waiting. And he did not hand over his volunteer and donor lists to the DNC.
 

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Sanders is a 77 year old curmudgeon from wacky Vermont. He had his window in 2016 and he got jobbed by the DNC. This time around there are far too many progressives in the field for him to have any relevance. If Biden enters the race, it's all but done.

Declared candidates so far:
Cory Booker, Sen NJ
Julian Castro, fmr Rep TX
John Delaney, Rep MD
Tulsi Gabbard, Rep HI
Kirsten Gillenbrand, Sen NY
Kamala Harris, Sen CA
Amy Klobuchar, Sen MN
Bernie Sanders, Sen VT
Elizabeth Warren, Sen MA

Six of them are from the 'progressive' wing of the party.
 

doggystyle99

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Finally.

Now the campaign can begin.

And yes it is indeed a Great Day.
I want Trump in office for the election. I'm sure he will be. He will be the catalyst for more corporatists to be outed.

And more progressives in Congress.
In true Trump supporting fashion it only took you 21 minutes and 2 posts in a thread you started, to start posting about your support for Trump.
Your subconscious has given you away so many times.
To say your subconscious is obsessed with supporting Trump is an understatement. But hey since you've told us many times and posted it in your signature we all know you really are a Sanders supporter ;) ...............in an attempt to split the Democratic support so Trump can get a second term in office. :hand:

Keep the circle jerk alive ;)
 

jcpro

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I think The Trump Presidency has actually made it easier for his election. The larger threat is Biden. But I'm hopeful the Superdelegates not having power in the first ballot may make the difference.
Trump as a president is a double edged sword for Bernie. The DNC will lean toward a candidate most likely to unseat Trump and not a candidate with best ideas. His past performance may play really well on the far left of the party, but it guarantees nothing in the general election. That's why I still think that a more centrist and more pragmatic candidate is yet to emerge.
 

Butler1000

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In true Trump supporting fashion it only took you 21 minutes and 2 posts in a thread you started, to start posting about your support for Trump.
Your subconscious has given you away so many times.
To say your subconscious is obsessed with supporting Trump is an understatement. But hey since you've told us many times and posted it in your signature we all know you really are a Sanders supporter ;) ...............in an attempt to split the Democratic support so Trump can get a second term in office. :hand:

Keep the circle jerk alive ;)
And quite simply the only time you appear is the reverse.

I started a thread. Frankie commented. I replied and moved on.

So.

How do you think Bernie stacks up?
 

Butler1000

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Trump as a president is a double edged sword for Bernie. The DNC will lean toward a candidate most likely to unseat Trump and not a candidate with best ideas. His past performance may play really well on the far left of the party, but it guarantees nothing in the general election. That's why I still think that a more centrist and more pragmatic candidate is yet to emergency.
While you ideas have merit I see the opposite. I see a large voter block untapped of people who don't trust either party. And especially don't trust a centrist who won't do anything at all.

People want change. My recent travels down south talking to people in Vegas from numerous demographics bear that out. Trump was a change candidate. And I think Bernie's anti war stand nets him a selection of Trump voters and a slew of new voters.

His healthcare stance? Over 50% of GOP voters want expanded govt coverage. Those are the two topics that will one the winner.
 

Butler1000

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Sanders is a 77 year old curmudgeon from wacky Vermont. He had his window in 2016 and he got jobbed by the DNC. This time around there are far too many progressives in the field for him to have any relevance. If Biden enters the race, it's all but done.

Declared candidates so far:
Cory Booker, Sen NJ
Julian Castro, fmr Rep TX
John Delaney, Rep MD
Tulsi Gabbard, Rep HI
Kirsten Gillenbrand, Sen NY
Kamala Harris, Sen CA
Amy Klobuchar, Sen MN
Bernie Sanders, Sen VT
Elizabeth Warren, Sen MA

Six of them are from the 'progressive' wing of the party.
Booker, Castro, Harris are fake. People know that by their political record and in Booker's case Ties to Big Pharma.

Klobuchar has in fact declared herself a centrist. Delaney who? He is a non entity. Gillenbrand doesn't have near the national footprint.

Warren has a shot with the progressive wing.

Btw you Forgot Tulsi Gabbard. The two time Iraq Vet who is being trashed as a Russian supplicant by NBC since she came out as anti war.

I only see Harris and Biden getting the backing of the money. Maybe Knobuchar if those two falter or Biden doesn't run.

The rest don't have the machine Bernie built. He will have so much money in small donors. Alot of volunteers. Him and Tulsi have been talking. I think she is in to raise her profile and then be his running mate.
 

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Booker, Castro, Harris are fake. People know that by their political record and in Booker's case Ties to Big Pharma.

Klobuchar has in fact declared herself a centrist. Delaney who? He is a non entity. Gillenbrand doesn't have near the national footprint.

Warren has a shot with the progressive wing.

Btw you Forgot Tulsi Gabbard. The two time Iraq Vet who is being trashed as a Russian supplicant by NBC since she came out as anti war.

I only see Harris and Biden getting the backing of the money. Maybe Knobuchar if those two falter or Biden doesn't run.

The rest don't have the machine Bernie built. He will have so much money in small donors. Alot of volunteers. Him and Tulsi have been talking. I think she is in to raise her profile and then be his running mate.
Nice trolling, butler.
Catch anything yet?
 

jcpro

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While you ideas have merit I see the opposite. I see a large voter block untapped of people who don't trust either party. And especially don't trust a centrist who won't do anything at all.

People want change. My recent travels down south talking to people in Vegas from numerous demographics bear that out. Trump was a change candidate. And I think Bernie's anti war stand nets him a selection of Trump voters and a slew of new voters.

His healthcare stance? Over 50% of GOP voters want expanded govt coverage. Those are the two topics that will one the winner.
Perhaps. But, in a good economy the voters tend to stick.with the incumbent. Trump is also an anti-war President. Health care is an interesting one. Over 170 million Americans are currently covered by the employer's insurance. The universal coverage could be a selling point, but at the expense of the employer's coverage? And how will Bernie sell rationing? Something that is a mainstay of an universal system. And then there is a matter of payment. The polls on that are consistent: the more independents and especially the middle class learn about the costs associated with an universal system, the softer the support. It will be an interesting one, in any case.
 

Butler1000

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Nice trolling, butler.
Catch anything yet?
It's an honest assessment at this point. There is still a year + just to the convention. Forever in politics.

Just watch.
 

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It's an honest assessment at this point. There is still a year + just to the convention. Forever in politics.

Just watch.

You must be somewhat upset that he's not running as an independent. Your boy Trump will still have a good chance even without an independent Sanders splitting some of the vote.
 
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