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Don't you wish for Harper now

happ

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If an election were held today he'd win a majority easy eh folks

Even he must be surprised how bad a job JT is doin. His JT is just not ready slogan shoulda been he'll never be ready.

His supporters got hoodwinked.
 

Mr Deeds

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Yes JT is a disaster, but Harper, no thanks
 

jazzbox

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Damn, I was enjoying my dinner, you mention Harper and now I want to wretch. What a piece of shit that man is.

QUOTE=happ;6341936]If an election were held today he'd win a majority easy eh folks

Even he must be surprised how bad a job JT is doin. His JT is just not ready slogan shoulda been he'll never be ready.

His supporters got hoodwinked.[/QUOTE]
 

K Douglas

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Damn, I was enjoying my dinner, you mention Harper and now I want to wretch. What a piece of shit that man is.
Harper was a good leader and guided us through some tumultuous times. Canada fared better than any other western nation during the economic meltdown of 2008/2009.
 

nottyboi

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Fuck no, I still would vote for Trudeau today head to head. There is no real scandal here. Its pretty sensible that SNC should be handled under deferred prosecution. The Huawei affair to me is more annoying, surely we could have cut her loose. Now we are asking the Chinese govt to not execute a Canadian drug dealer... ie we are asking them for political interference on behalf of OUR citizen (who appears to be a low life) while we are not willing to intervene policially on behalf of one of their super elites?
 

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jazzbox

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Lest we forget...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/15/stephen-harper-master-manipulator


On "leading" us through terrible times...Harper was fully committed to trying to cut budgets and program spending as the 2008-2009 recession was really beginning to bite. He was also supportive of reducing regulation of the financial sector and modelling housing finance after the American model. That would have been a disaster for Canada. Luckily, the G20 - at the "suggestion" of the US and UK, agreed to stimulate economies through budget deficits to the tune of 2% of their respective GDPs. Canada also reversed course and started to re-regulate the financial sector and housing finance once again at the suggestion of the G-20. All the key measures that were undertaken by Harper to "guide us" through tumultuous time came from the G-20 and other international forums and were measures that Harper actually opposed.

Harper was a good leader and guided us through some tumultuous times. Canada fared better than any other western nation during the economic meltdown of 2008/2009.
 

K Douglas

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Lest we forget...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/15/stephen-harper-master-manipulator


On "leading" us through terrible times...Harper was fully committed to trying to cut budgets and program spending as the 2008-2009 recession was really beginning to bite. He was also supportive of reducing regulation of the financial sector and modelling housing finance after the American model. That would have been a disaster for Canada. Luckily, the G20 - at the "suggestion" of the US and UK, agreed to stimulate economies through budget deficits to the tune of 2% of their respective GDPs. Canada also reversed course and started to re-regulate the financial sector and housing finance once again at the suggestion of the G-20. All the key measures that were undertaken by Harper to "guide us" through tumultuous time came from the G-20 and other international forums and were measures that Harper actually opposed.
What a load of tripe. Wouldn't expect anything less from the Guardian - they make the Toronto Star look far right. Under the Harper government the mortgage rules were actually tightened so as to avoid any replication of the US sub prime mortgage crisis.
 

JohnLarue

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Lest we forget...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/15/stephen-harper-master-manipulator


On "leading" us through terrible times...Harper was fully committed to trying to cut budgets and program spending as the 2008-2009 recession was really beginning to bite. He was also supportive of reducing regulation of the financial sector and modelling housing finance after the American model. That would have been a disaster for Canada. Luckily, the G20 - at the "suggestion" of the US and UK, agreed to stimulate economies through budget deficits to the tune of 2% of their respective GDPs. Canada also reversed course and started to re-regulate the financial sector and housing finance once again at the suggestion of the G-20. All the key measures that were undertaken by Harper to "guide us" through tumultuous time came from the G-20 and other international forums and were measures that Harper actually opposed.
Justin Trudeau is self destructing in front of you. He just lost the man that does all of Justin's thinking.
This is not going to be pretty
 

james t kirk

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Harper was a good leader and guided us through some tumultuous times. Canada fared better than any other western nation during the economic meltdown of 2008/2009.
You can thank 3 people for that. 2 of them are liberals.

1. Paul Martin who was the economic miracle worker that slayed the deficit (only to have it brought back to life by Harper). It was Martin who regulated the Canadian banks to prevent the kind of stupidity that sunk the American banks and it was Martin who refused to allow banking mergers in Canada.

2. Mark Carney, head of the bank of Canada during the great recession. Carney has a keen intellect and an incredible understanding of how the markets work. Carney was responsible for the guidance and fiscal policy of the bank that helped mitigate the economic tsunami from down south. And Carney is a liberal.

3. Jim Flaherty who juiced the economy during the great recession to prevent a complete melt down. He and Carney worked very well together.

But Harper? He had little if anything to do with it. He was bright enough to let Flaherty worry about it while he kept busy pulling the wings off of flys.
 

bver_hunter

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Harper inherited a very buoyant economy that had a surplus from the Liberal Paul Martin / Chretien administrations. Unlike, poor Obama who inherited a disaster from George Bush, of course a right wing Conservative Republican Government that was supposed to be fiscally responsible. Harper could not admit the fact that Canada was in a recession, especially when the surplus plummeted into a deficit. Recession....what recession is all he harped about. Then we off course had the biggest deficit under him. Can you imagine if he inherited something similar to what Obama was handed, what a disaster it would have been for Canada??

At least under Trudeau, we had the best job growth rate figures in 40 years:

https://business.financialpost.com/...yment-rate-declines-to-lowest-in-four-decades

Of course, the right wingers will never give Trudeau credit for it. They are really suffering from TDS...........Trudeau Derangement Syndrome. LOL!!
 

wigglee

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Harper was a good leader and guided us through some tumultuous times. Canada fared better than any other western nation during the economic meltdown of 2008/2009.
He merely rode the petrol wave and pretended it was his brilliant leadership. Harper was an assclown. His deal with China, the Canada-China Foreign Investment Promotion and Protection Agreement[FONT=&quot] , allows them to sue us for hampering their business investments ( like cancelling a pipeline), which is why Trudeau had to buy that pipeline to avoid being sued.[/FONT]
 

bver_hunter

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He merely rode the petrol wave and pretended it was his brilliant leadership. Harper was an assclown. His deal with China, the Canada-China Foreign Investment Promotion and Protection Agreement[FONT="] , allows them to sue us for hampering their business investments ( like cancelling a pipeline), which is why Trudeau had to buy that pipeline to avoid being sued.[/FONT]
Do not forget that Harper hardly got a deal when he went to India. All that he did was to ship some security vehicles at a huge taxpayer expense to India and then have it shipped back. Why....because he did not feel secure. He hardly negotiated any trade deals in all his years in power, and would have capitulated to Trump in a jiffy with the USMCA Trade Deal.
 

Insidious Von

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You should check your facts Kirk.

Paul Martin is perhaps the best Finance Minister Canada has ever had, but his austerity measures were a big risk. At the time, Ontario's economy had bottomed out, Alberta was in a deep bust cycle and Quebec was on the brink of separation. Jean Chretien underestimated the resolve of the Pequiste, Stephane Dion saved his ass. Compared to Brian Mulroney, Harper is Sir Galahad.

Martin's reforms after the Quebec Referendum has had a lasting impact. He prevented Canada's bank from merging and he reformed the CPP. At the time government critics said that the CPP would cease to exist, the opposite has happened. Harper was smart enough not to roll back what Martin put in place. But to have him be PM, no, he lost his mind by late 2012.

Btw with the threat of the PQ gaining power removed, Quebec's economy is booming while Ontario's stagnates. Isn't it time that they stopped receiving transfer payments?

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2019/01/19/canadas-vast-pension-fund-is-gaining-even-more-financial-clout
 

oldjones

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Yes JT is a disaster, but Harper, no thanks
Agreed, for both propositions. But if forced to a choice, better the well-intentioned bumbler than the unprincipled opportunist, no matter how wily.
 

jcpro

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Justin over Harper? Today??! This got to be some kind of mental disorder.
 
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