No I don't think Quebec should lose jobs, however we don't know how minor this scandal is because the Liberals are trying to keep it as quiet as possible, my issue was you seem to be all about morals but when it comes to the Liberals doing something wrong or immoral, you excuse it.
Trudeau's principal secretary, Gerald Butts, resigns amid SNC-Lavalin furor
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What kind of question is that ?Is there any allegation that Trudeau profited from this 'influence'?
Trying to influence the justice system wrt a specific case is totally unacceptable & very likely illegal regardless of who profits or does not
What is wrong with you?
Listen to youOf course it would have been different. Scheer is a western conservative. It will be hard to duck the question if he keeps using it as a cudgel. If he says "he would not have interfered" he may as well say FUCK QUEBEC!!! The Liberals will say "we felt it was important to strike a balance between upholding the law, holding companies accountable, while at the same time preserving important companies where possible, as such we introduced the deferred prosecution law, to give the judiciary and legal system an additional option if they see fit. As it is a new law and there is little precident on the books the AG may choose to intervene to ensure this law is properly applied.
strike a balance between upholding the law, ............
A law is not worth shit if you compromise at all on upholding it and if it not applied equally
What happens to the competitor engineering company caught bribing someone else. Do they get the max penalty because they are smaller and do not donate to the Liberal party and the Trudeau foundation ?
You need to take some ethic courses
YesDo you think Quebec should lose those jobs in order not to do business with Libya?
All companies are expected to operate within the laws of the land
if you pick and choose based upon any criteria, why bother having the law written in the criminal code at all !
Besides after the job losses Justin and Butt head created in Alberta & Sask , he can not claim any moral high road wrt jobs
I don't think it was immoral. There was no plan to allow the perps to go scott free. And IMHO it would have been immoral to cause serious harm to people who were not involved in the corruption. So IMHO they were trying to strike a far compromise. There was no personal gain other then election prospects which is pretty much the bedrock of democracy.No I don't think Quebec should lose jobs, however we don't know how minor this scandal is because the Liberals are trying to keep it as quiet as possible, my issue was you seem to be all about morals but when it comes to the Liberals doing something wrong or immoral, you excuse it.
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All companies are expected to operate within the laws of the land
if you pick and choose based upon any criteria, why bother having the law written in the criminal code at all !
Besides after the job losses Justin and Butt head created in Alberta & Sask , he can not claim any moral high road wrt jobs[/QUO...TE]
Yeah Trudeau controls the price of oil, whatever.....the job losses were because Alberta was over dependant on the oil industry, and got addicted to easy money. Then they over developed the resource to the point they could not ship it to market and paid a price. 100% Alberta incompetence.
BTW the Deferred prosecution law is now also the law. It does not absolve the company of responsibilites but merely absolves the company itself of criminal responsiblity.
Does anyone know if the "quarantine rule" applies to Gerald Butt?
I'm not that knowledgeable about the rule. When I was approached for a job in the federal civil service years ago, I was told that when I leave that job, I would not be allowed to contact that department for 2 years.
I'm not that knowledgeable about the rule. When I was approached for a job in the federal civil service years ago, I was told that when I leave that job, I would not be allowed to contact that department for 2 years.
We actually don't know what happened because the Liberals are trying to cover it up. If it was so innocent why not let an inquiry happen?I don't think it was immoral. There was no plan to allow the perps to go scott free. And IMHO it would have been immoral to cause serious harm to people who were not involved in the corruption. So IMHO they were trying to strike a far compromise. There was no personal gain other then election prospects which is pretty much the bedrock of democracy.
How can you have such a definitive opinion on matters you do not understandYeah Trudeau controls the price of oil, whatever.....the job losses were because Alberta was over dependant on the oil industry, and got addicted to easy money. Then they over developed the resource to the point they could not ship it to market and paid a price. 100% Alberta incompetence.
Alberta can withstand low commodity prices, they just can not survive the Trudeau family
Gerald Butts explicitly wanted to shut down the oil sands and once Justin became Prime Minister, Gerald put his plan into effect.
Gerald speaks for Justin and he also thinks for Justin and apparently that caused some trouble on a justice file
What do you think this whole JWR / Gerald Butts mess is about ??????
So lets be clear, you believe a tailor made law for one particular Liberal patron is the way to goBTW the Deferred prosecution law is now also the law. It does not absolve the company of responsibilities but merely absolves the company itself of criminal responsiblity.
So you should have no issue with say a pipeline company being absolved of its criminal responsibilities for say a environmental leak ?
Provided of coarse that company donated to the governing party & was based in quebec
Well if you think bribery and perverting a justice system is moral, then your opinion is not worth muchI don't think it was immoral. There was no plan to allow the perps to go scott free. And IMHO it would have been immoral to cause serious harm to people who were not involved in the corruption. So IMHO they were trying to strike a far compromise. There was no personal gain other then election prospects which is pretty much the bedrock of democracy.
Its not a tailor made law its pretty much a copy of a law our masters the USA uses quite often. They are not Liberal patrons, they give to all parties and very generously. What specifically has Trudeau done or not done to "shut down" the oil sands in the just over 3 years office? Do tell!! Especially since production has been steadily increasing while he has been PM. Albertas economy is boom bust, and it has done this consistantly under mostly conservative govts. Nothing new here, nothing to blame Trudeau for. They just put all their eggs in one basket and paid the price. On the flip side, Ontario, Quebec and BC are doing great and that is a much larger % of the Canadian population so ..whatever.How can you have such a definitive opinion on matters you do not understand
Alberta can withstand low commodity prices, they just can not survive the Trudeau family
Gerald Butts explicitly wanted to shut down the oil sands and once Justin became Prime Minister, Gerald put his plan into effect.
Gerald speaks for Justin and he also thinks for Justin and apparently that caused some trouble on a justice file
What do you think this whole JWR / Gerald Butts mess is about ??????
So lets be clear, you believe a tailor made law for one particular Liberal patron is the way to go
So you should have no issue with say a pipeline company being absolved of its criminal responsibilities for say a environmental leak ?
Provided of coarse that company donated to the governing party & was based in quebec
There is no bribery. Show us the money. The govt was trying to avoid destorying a major Quebec company, which would be good for its election prospects and for the economy. No one suggested SNC was going to be let of scott free. Doing good things for the people to be re-elected..isn't that what democracy is?Well if you think bribery and perverting a justice system is moral, then your opinion is not worth much
