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Trudeau to face more questions on SNC-Lavalin controversy dogging his government

Conil

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Good one

4 days ago: "Her presence in cabinet should speak for itself."
3 days ago: *Jody Wilson-Raybould resigns from cabinet.*
2 days ago: "We moved her from Justice Minister because she doesn't speak French."
Today: "She would still be justice minister if it wasn’t for the resignation of former Treasury Board president Scott Brison."

I'm having a hard time keeping track of the lies.

OTTAWA — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says it was former justice minister Jody Wilson-Raybould who asked him in the fall if he planned to tell her what to do in the prosecution of Quebec engineering giant SNC-Lavalin — a conversation, he says, that ended with him telling her any decision was hers alone.

The meeting has become a key incident in the controversy over allegations that Wilson-Raybould was subjected to political arm-twisting to help the company avoid criminal prosecution.

SNC-Lavalin faces the possibility of being banned from federal contracts — a key portion of its work — for a decade if the company is convicted of bribery and fraud linked to the company’s efforts to secure business in Libya.

During an event in the Ottawa suburb of Kanata Friday morning, Trudeau talked about the discussions inside his government around the company, including questions asked of him by two different Quebec premiers, representatives of the company and unions and MPs.

Trudeau said the conversations were appropriate given the economic effects of a conviction for a company that employs thousands of people at home and abroad.

He said all those talks led to the fall conversation where Wilson-Raybould asked whether Trudeau would be directing her to take a particular decision, particularly whether to strike a remediation deal to let the company pay a fine and bypass criminal charges.

“We take very seriously our responsibility of standing up for jobs, of protecting jobs, of growing the economy, of making sure there are good jobs right across the country as there are with SNC-Lavalin. But as we do that, we always need to make sure we’re standing up for the rule of law and protecting the independence of our justice system,” Trudeau said.

“There were many discussions going on. Which is why Jody Wilson-Raybould asked me if I was directing her, or going to direct her, to take a particular decision and I, of course, said no, that it was her decision to make and I expected her to make it. I had full confidence in her role as attorney general to make the decision.”

In October, federal prosecutors rejected the company’s request for the remediation deal.

In January, Wilson-Raybould was moved to the veterans-affairs portfolio as part of a shuffle precipitated by former Treasury Board president Scott Brison’s decision to leave politics.

Trudeau said Brison’s sudden resignation from cabinet resulted in having to “move things around” on the team, including shuffling Wilson-Raybould — a decision based on what the prime minister vaguely described as “a wide range of factors.”

“If Scott Brison had not stepped down from cabinet, Jody Wilson-Raybould would still be minister of justice and attorney general,” Trudeau said.

The opposition parties quickly rejected Trudeau’s explanation.

“Every day we’re hearing the prime minister come up with a new excuse, a new explanation, and none of them add up,” NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said in Burnaby, B.C.

“What we’re seeing is an attorney general who was pressured, allegedly, by the prime minister to drop a criminal charge against a corporation that has deep ties with the Liberal party. All of this strikes Canadians as very troubling.”

Conservative MP Michelle Rempel tweeted that she wasn’t sure “what is worse: the inanity of the statement itself, or the arrogance of thinking we’re all stupid enough to buy that pile of garbage.”

Even Brison’s husband seemed to catch on to the comment. Max St-************ tweeted: “It’s ok, I usually blame my husband for everything too.”

https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...kBA5KeNBUf8n6fnG_wrCKpZBzTC_7qgbqzINaAP0bWy_s
 

Butler1000

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Gerald Butts just Resigned. It would appear that the walls are indeed closing in.

Methinks there was an instruction attempt. Quite serious really.
 

jcpro

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Gerald Butts just Resigned. It would appear that the walls are indeed closing in.

Methinks there was an instruction attempt. Quite serious really.
Oh, no! That is indeed serious. He was Justin's Valerie Jarrett. In the future, when they're teaching crisis management, this will be the case of how not to do it.
 

jcpro

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Bye Bye BUTTS - I had a feeling he would would be next. Someone has to take the fall.

Here is a great in-depth article which outlines SNC’s history of illegal activities and Canadian government complicity.

https://static.nytimes.com/email-content/CNDA_10360.html?nlid=77119797
Yeah, but the fall for what? Seriously. So far, we literally know nothing about the particulars of the case. The former AG is quiet and the full extent of the alleged corruption is completely hidden from sight. He had to go, sooner or later, but before the facts are known, him resigning is an illogical step. You slaughter the cow for the piranhas when you're ready to cross the river. Justin fired him for not shielding him- that's the only explanation.
 

WarGames

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Yeah, but the fall for what? Seriously. So far, we literally know nothing about the particulars of the case. The former AG is quiet and the full extent of the alleged corruption is completely hidden from sight. He had to go, sooner or later, but before the facts are known, him resigning is an illogical step. You slaughter the cow for the piranhas when you're ready to cross the river. Justin fired him for not shielding him- that's the only explanation.
It's just getting started. This is going to be soo good! What happened to Trudeau and his pledge to have transparency in government? Another fake promise. The fact that he's not letting anyone talk is not looking good for him. It's raising more questions than anything else. Trudeau's gov is in chaos!
 

JohnLarue

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Yeah, but the fall for what? Seriously. So far, we literally know nothing about the particulars of the case. The former AG is quiet and the full extent of the alleged corruption is completely hidden from sight. He had to go, sooner or later, but before the facts are known, him resigning is an illogical step. You slaughter the cow for the piranhas when you're ready to cross the river. Justin fired him for not shielding him- that's the only explanation.
The bigger concern is who is going to do Justin's thinking for him now?
 

jcpro

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It's just getting started. This is going to be soo good! What happened to Trudeau and his pledge to have transparency in government? Another fake promise. The fact that he's not letting anyone talk is not looking good for him. It's raising more questions than anything else. Trudeau's gov is in chaos!
Tomorrow, there will be a press conference held by the Prime Minister and he will come completely clean. Just kidding. I don't think that the Groper has
the moral fortitude to spike this story through the heart.
 

WarGames

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The bigger concern is who is going to do Justin's thinking for him now?
Tomorrow, there will be a press conference held by the Prime Minister and he will come completely clean. Just kidding. I don't think that the Groper has
the moral fortitude to spike this story through the heart.
O man, so true lmao. Thanks for the Monday chuckle. I needed that.
 

havingfun

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Gerald Butts just Resigned. It would appear that the walls are indeed closing in.

Methinks there was an instruction attempt. Quite serious really.
Remember Nigel Wright? Harper's chief of staff's resignation. Scandal Scandal Scandal. And it WAS a MUCH bigger scandal than this. In the end it had no impact on Harper. This will have even less impact on Trudeau. PCs are desperate for something, anything, no matter how small, to help them with the election because they have nothing to offer Canadians. Nothing is what they will be left with after the election.
 

Butler1000

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Remember Nigel Wright? Harper's chief of staff's resignation. Scandal Scandal Scandal. And it WAS a MUCH bigger scandal than this. In the end it had no impact on Harper. This will have even less impact on Trudeau.
Worried? I think any one who likes Trudeau should be.
 

JohnLarue

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Remember Nigel Wright? Harper's chief of staff's resignation. Scandal Scandal Scandal. And it WAS a MUCH bigger scandal than this. In the end it had no impact on Harper. This will have even less impact on Trudeau. PCs are desperate for something, anything, no matter how small, to help them with the election because they have nothing to offer Canadians. Nothing is what they will be left with after the election.
Actually the conservative have lots to offer Canadians
they are Gerald Butts free and always have been

Now that Gerald butts is no longer in power who is going to do Justin's thinking for him?
 

havingfun

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I am not worried. I am not a Trudeau supporter. Unfortunately, there is no credible alternative. NDP are disorganized, the PCs are devoid of ideas and leadership, and the Greens do not have the votes So the Liberals will be forming the next government. This "scandal" is as the Wright affair was to the PCs. Much ado about nothing.
 

jcpro

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Remember Nigel Wright? Harper's chief of staff's resignation. Scandal Scandal Scandal. And it WAS a MUCH bigger scandal than this. In the end it had no impact on Harper. This will have even less impact on Trudeau. PCs are desperate for something, anything, no matter how small, to help them with the election because they have nothing to offer Canadians. Nothing is what they will be left with after the election.
Wright gave 90k to Duffy to pay back the taxpayers. This is a government that included protection from criminal prosecution to a private company in their omnibus bill- and that's just step one. In comparison, the Senate expenses scandal is a Jay walking ticket. Especially after it amounted to exactly nothing.
 

havingfun

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Actually the conservative have lots to offer Canadians
Really? SNC Lavalin is facing criminal charges over bribes to Libya. How would the PCs have treated the firm differently? What do they have to offer Canadians on this issue ? Crickets....
 

JohnLarue

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Really? SNC Lavalin is facing criminal charges over bribes to Libya. How would the PCs have treated the firm differently? What do they have to offer Canadians on this issue ? Crickets....
For starters they would not be attempting to pervert justice or influence the outcome of a criminal case for a specific defendant
I kinda value that in a government as a Canadian, don't you?

And if you try and argue it is about jobs, well Justin has killed 2-3X as many jobs in Alberta as are at risk with SNC
Do you think Quebec jobs are more important than Alberta jobs?
SNC is changed with braking the law
 
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