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Liberal MPs use majority to shut down probe into SNC-Lavalin affair

Conil

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I though Trudeau said he welcomed an investigation, I guess he changed tune. If they have nothing to hide what are they worried about?


OTTAWA – The House of Commons Justice Committee will be looking into the ongoing SNC-Lavalin affair and alleged PMO political interference, but in a limited way after the Liberal members on the committee used their majority to shut down opposition calls for former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould and other key figures in the Prime Minister’s Office to testify. This prompted calls from the opposition of a "cover up."


Tuesday in Ottawa the Liberal MPs on the committee superseded the opposition motion that was meant to be the topic of discussion during the meeting, with a proposal of their own. That motion will see the committee study more broadly the topics at the heart of the affair: remediation agreements, the Shawcross doctrine—which has to do with the independence of the attorney general in making decisions—and the discussions between the AG and government colleagues on SNC-Lavalin.

The Liberal motion calls on current Justice Minister David Lametti, his deputy minister at Justice Canada, and Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick to appear. It also states that the next meeting on Feb. 19 will happen in-camera to discuss potential other witnesses, the timeline for the meetings, and the potential impact on ongoing court proceedings of this probe.

"We're doing actually what nobody expected us to do, which is to say we are indeed looking into it because we understand Canadians preoccupations," committee chair and Liberal MP Anthony Housefather told reporters.

Asked if he was confident that the study as prescribed will bring to light real answers on the matter Housefather said "yes."

In recent media interviews Housefather had said he believes the prime minister. During the meeting, opposition MPs questioned his independence for making that and other comments. Housefather said he is hopeful that the study will be able to be conducted in a nonpartisan manner.

The opposition motion would have had granted the committee the ability to dig deeper into whether Prime Minister Justin Trudeau or anyone in his office tried to pressure the then-attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould to abandon the criminal prosecution of a corruption and fraud case against SNC-Lavalin, as The Globe and Mail reported last week. CTV News has not independently verified the story.

The opposition wanted to hear from a longer list of witnesses, including several senior PMO staffers, and suggested an NDP amendment to that effect that would have seen Wilson-Raybould, Principal Secretary to the Prime Minister Gerald Butts, and Senior Advisor to the Prime Minister Mathieu Bouchard testify and have all discussions be in public. That amendment was defeated by the Liberal MPs.

The outcome has the opposition MPs claiming that the Liberals are not interested in getting to the bottom of the matter, and rather are part of a "cover up." Both the NDP and Conservatives have said that Canadians want to be able to hear from all of those believed to be at the core of this affair, and don’t want their MPs to engage in a drawn-out academic process about legal principles in place of that.

"If the Liberals think that this issue is going to be smothered by what they did today, then they're kidding themselves because we will be relentless on this matter," Conservative Deputy Leader Lisa Raitt said after the hearing. Prior to the meeting, she had said that if the Liberals "defeat or they water it down in any way, it is nothing less than an admission of guilt."

Liberals accused opposition of 'witch hunt'

Throughout the meeting, the exchanges between the opposition and the Liberal members were strained. Liberal MPs accused the Conservatives of bullying them by sending party loyalists their public email addresses and phone numbers in advance of the committee to try to persuade them to support the opposition motion, and of trying to launch a political "witch hunt."

In return, the Conservatives shot accusations across the table that the Liberals were just parrots of the PMO and complicit in a "cover up," accusations that the Liberal MPs scoffed at and rejected.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canad...ix7Hz9Lv_x2ZXs-FmE4XW-bvHkl6DAcdEu8jxTUw6WXs4
 

Butler1000

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I guess it will have to be up to the electorate to remove him.
 

Zaibetter

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I though Trudeau said he welcomed an investigation, I guess he changed tune. If they have nothing to hide what are they worried about?


OTTAWA – The House of Commons Justice Committee will be looking into the ongoing SNC-Lavalin affair and alleged PMO political interference, but in a limited way after the Liberal members on the committee used their majority to shut down opposition calls for former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould and other key figures in the Prime Minister’s Office to testify. This prompted calls from the opposition of a "cover up."


Tuesday in Ottawa the Liberal MPs on the committee superseded the opposition motion that was meant to be the topic of discussion during the meeting, with a proposal of their own. That motion will see the committee study more broadly the topics at the heart of the affair: remediation agreements, the Shawcross doctrine—which has to do with the independence of the attorney general in making decisions—and the discussions between the AG and government colleagues on SNC-Lavalin.

The Liberal motion calls on current Justice Minister David Lametti, his deputy minister at Justice Canada, and Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick to appear. It also states that the next meeting on Feb. 19 will happen in-camera to discuss potential other witnesses, the timeline for the meetings, and the potential impact on ongoing court proceedings of this probe.

"We're doing actually what nobody expected us to do, which is to say we are indeed looking into it because we understand Canadians preoccupations," committee chair and Liberal MP Anthony Housefather told reporters.

Asked if he was confident that the study as prescribed will bring to light real answers on the matter Housefather said "yes."

In recent media interviews Housefather had said he believes the prime minister. During the meeting, opposition MPs questioned his independence for making that and other comments. Housefather said he is hopeful that the study will be able to be conducted in a nonpartisan manner.

The opposition motion would have had granted the committee the ability to dig deeper into whether Prime Minister Justin Trudeau or anyone in his office tried to pressure the then-attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould to abandon the criminal prosecution of a corruption and fraud case against SNC-Lavalin, as The Globe and Mail reported last week. CTV News has not independently verified the story.

The opposition wanted to hear from a longer list of witnesses, including several senior PMO staffers, and suggested an NDP amendment to that effect that would have seen Wilson-Raybould, Principal Secretary to the Prime Minister Gerald Butts, and Senior Advisor to the Prime Minister Mathieu Bouchard testify and have all discussions be in public. That amendment was defeated by the Liberal MPs.

The outcome has the opposition MPs claiming that the Liberals are not interested in getting to the bottom of the matter, and rather are part of a "cover up." Both the NDP and Conservatives have said that Canadians want to be able to hear from all of those believed to be at the core of this affair, and don’t want their MPs to engage in a drawn-out academic process about legal principles in place of that.

"If the Liberals think that this issue is going to be smothered by what they did today, then they're kidding themselves because we will be relentless on this matter," Conservative Deputy Leader Lisa Raitt said after the hearing. Prior to the meeting, she had said that if the Liberals "defeat or they water it down in any way, it is nothing less than an admission of guilt."

Liberals accused opposition of 'witch hunt'

Throughout the meeting, the exchanges between the opposition and the Liberal members were strained. Liberal MPs accused the Conservatives of bullying them by sending party loyalists their public email addresses and phone numbers in advance of the committee to try to persuade them to support the opposition motion, and of trying to launch a political "witch hunt."

In return, the Conservatives shot accusations across the table that the Liberals were just parrots of the PMO and complicit in a "cover up," accusations that the Liberal MPs scoffed at and rejected.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canad...ix7Hz9Lv_x2ZXs-FmE4XW-bvHkl6DAcdEu8jxTUw6WXs4
They know Canadians won't like this because we all want to know, it means that what they're hiding is more damaging than the consequence of suffocating this investigation. It will not go away ...
 

Polaris

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This thing is over.

The Rubber Stamp Committee has closed its investigation when it received the report from the PM in regards to the PM.

That is good enough.

Unless the country wants that dog-catcher looking kind of guy, living comfortably in the past, as leader of the country.

Looking at it that way, you would rubber stamp that report yourself.

Junior Potatoe Head was born with a horseshoe and rubber stamp.
up his ass.

:hippie:
 

Darts

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An unscientific survey of social media shows a majority believe Trudeau is a liar and a bully. All or almost all sympathy goes to Jody.

When the Liberal Government arrested Ms Meng, Freeland shouted from the rooftop that Canada is a nation of laws.
 

GameBoy27

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Trudeau is a slimy lying sack of shit. He doesn't deserve to be re-elected!
 

Darts

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When I lived in Montreal, there were rumors and stories that SNC was (still is?) rotten to the core. Bribes, kickbacks, padding the cost, etc. It was excused on the basis that this was "industry practice". One of my friends worked at the Royal Bank and he saw men in construction clothes bringing in bags of cash.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4954892/snc-lavalin-criminal-charges-montreal-bridge/

(Maybe Captain Kirk can shed some more light on this "industry practice.)
 

nottyboi

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When I lived in Montreal, there were rumors and stories that SNC was (still is?) rotten to the core. Bribes, kickbacks, padding the cost, etc. It was excused on the basis that this was "industry practice". One of my friends worked at the Royal Bank and he saw men in construction clothes bringing in bags of cash.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4954892/snc-lavalin-criminal-charges-montreal-bridge/

(Maybe Captain Kirk can shed some more light on this "industry practice.)

Montreal was rotten to the core, remember the huge construction bribe scandal a few years ago?
 

oldjones

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If you not prepared to make Trudeau accountable you are part of the problem.
Perhaps. But he's still correct about the alternatives, even if he left out Singh. Who elects all these clowns? If there is a problem, voters are it. But look at the messes in France, the USA and the UK; when did democracy work much better?

Maybe we should all pay more attention, and pick who we vote for by more than just easy labels.
 

nottyboi

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If you not prepared to make Trudeau accountable you are part of the problem.
Hold Trudeau accountable for what? Expecting his AG to make an independant decision that is for the greater good and also will enhance the chances of reelection of the party while at the same time serving justice to those accused of breaking the law? Thats her FUCKING JOB. Its not an easy job, its one of the top jobs in the legal system of the country. If the PM feels she was unable to arrive at the decision without spoon feeding thus exposing the govt to all kinds of accusation of conflict of interest, it is his perogatiave to REMOVE HER, and he did. People said Trudeau is too soft and too weak. Now he shows he can be a bit ruthless and decisive and people are all over him. He cannot be Mr. Nice guy all the time he was not nice, he did what he needed to do and fired her.
 

oldjones

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Hold Trudeau accountable for what? Expecting his AG to make an independant decision that is for the greater good and also will enhance the chances of reelection of the party while at the same time serving justice to those accused of breaking the law? Thats her FUCKING JOB. Its not an easy job, its one of the top jobs in the legal system of the country. If the PM feels she was unable to arrive at the decision without spoon feeding thus exposing the govt to all kinds of accusation of conflict of interest, it is his perogatiave to REMOVE HER, and he did. People said Trudeau is too soft and too weak. Now he shows he can be a bit ruthless and decisive and people are all over him. He cannot be Mr. Nice guy all the time he was not nice, he did what he needed to do and fired her.
Trouble is he did it so ineptly and clumsily that now even his friends are worrying if he's up to the job. And some of us remember his solemn promise we'd never see another FPTP election and how he botched that process.

Eminently suited to be '… a spokesperson for the PMO', but who's on the job in that Office?
 

nottyboi

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Trouble is he did it so ineptly and clumsily that now even his friends are worrying if he's up to the job. And some of us remember his solemn promise we'd never see another FPTP election and how he botched that process.

Eminently suited to be '… a spokesperson for the PMO', but who's on the job in that Office?
He did it quite ruthlessly, unfortunately the lady doth protest. Sadly she blames PM for her failures even though he placed great trust in her and gave her an amazing opportunity to distinguish herself. Not a team player. There is no team for people like her, only team Jody. Even the assisited suicide bill she came up with was tragically lacking and thousands of Canadians will either die in agony or too early because of her lack of courage. Trudeau is realizing as PM he cannot make everyone happy and his idealistic approach is resulting in some very harsh lessons. Her actions are clearly vindictive and designed to damage the govt, and that includes all her Liberal colleagues that will be going to the polls this year.
 

JohnLarue

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He did it quite ruthlessly, unfortunately the lady doth protest. Sadly she blames PM for her failures even though he placed great trust in her and gave her an amazing opportunity to distinguish herself. Not a team player. There is no team for people like her, only team Jody. Even the assisited suicide bill she came up with was tragically lacking and thousands of Canadians will either die in agony or too early because of her lack of courage. Trudeau is realizing as PM he cannot make everyone happy and his idealistic approach is resulting in some very harsh lessons. Her actions are clearly vindictive and designed to damage the govt, and that includes all her Liberal colleagues that will be going to the polls this year.
 
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