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lumenon9

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Deal reached - Trump got $1.3 B for "Fencing"

Great fuckin wall - BBBBWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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bver_hunter

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Deal reached - Trump got $1.3 B for "Fencing"

Great fuckin wall - BBBBWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Well, I wonder whether the the following:

Do the Trumptard supporters still believe that Trump is a great business man??
Did he negotiate with Mexico to pay for the wall???
Did he get his $6 billion from the American taxpayers???
It was 1.6 Billion before the shutdown. Is $1.3 Billion a better deal???

Is it Yes or No to the above 4 questions????
 

K Douglas

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He should still declare a national emergency and get his funding that way. The Un Democrats are enemies of the people. Trump will hand them their asses in 2020.
 

bver_hunter

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The Trumptard supporters keeps on buying his BS. Take El Paso for example. Trump displayed either his lack of knowledge, or blurted out of his nostrils, his usual lies just to please his blind rudderless base. "Crime went down once the Wall was built". This obviously was totally debunked, as the crime rates were down way before the Wall was built, and then it made no difference to the crime rates when the wall was constructed. Even the Repugnantlicans agreed with this, and are really not interested in funding this wasteful albatross of a wall. Go Democrats, go, as you are doing an excellent job, that even McConnell now supports, and does not want a National Emergency executed for no obvious signs of any crisis. Trump is the real criminal and the Biggest Enemy to the decent Americans!!
 

Mr Deeds

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He hasn't signed off on it yet, lets see what he does
 

apoptygma

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He should still declare a national emergency and get his funding that way. The Un Democrats are enemies of the people. Trump will hand them their asses in 2020.
You DO know that declaring a national emergency doesn't guarantee him the funds, right?
No, you probably don't.
My sympathies to you and your offspring.
 

jcpro

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Illegal immigration is a wedge issue that not only keeps the Democrats in the weeds, but also keeps the Republican support firmly in Trump's hand. Opposing border security was silly and shortsighted. It was a wrong hill for the Democrats to die on.
 

bver_hunter

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Border Wall and Border security are two completely different issues. Fake to say that the Democrats were "opposing" Border Security, as that is exactly what they wanted to fund, and not the stupid wall, that is blown out of all proportion!!

 

Knuckle Ball

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The problem with the wall is two things:

1. It won’t work and it’s a stupid idea. If that was the only issue, though, Dems would just negotiate with trump and give him his ridiculous wall in exchange for something else they wanted. The problem, though, is...

2. trump has turned the wall into a giant multi-billion dollar symbol of racism, hatred, oppression, and fear of the “browning” of America. It has become the modern day equivalent of erecting statues of Confederate soldiers. Dems will thus not agree to this disgusting symbolism...trump wants it because it is symbolic of all the nasty shit he stands for.
 

Frankfooter

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So many factors to take into account with the wall.

First, its not "Trump's Wall',
Its most definitely Trump's wall.

It came up in Trump's campaign because his handlers needed to give him something easy to remember.
They came up with the wall.

There is no emergency, illegal immigrants have been declining for years now.
The republicans don't want it, just Trump and his base want it.
 

lumenon9

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The problem with the wall is two things:

1. It won’t work and it’s a stupid idea. If that was the only issue, though, Dems would just negotiate with trump and give him his ridiculous wall in exchange for something else they wanted. The problem, though, is...

2. trump has turned the wall into a giant multi-billion dollar symbol of racism, hatred, oppression, and fear of the “browning” of America. It has become the modern day equivalent of erecting statues of Confederate soldiers. Dems will thus not agree to this disgusting symbolism...trump wants it because it is symbolic of all the nasty shit he stands for.
Well said and your second point is Bang on.
 
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OnTheWayOut

The problem with the wall is two things:

1. It won’t work and it’s a stupid idea. If that was the only issue, though, Dems would just negotiate with trump and give him his ridiculous wall in exchange for something else they wanted. The problem, though, is...

2. trump has turned the wall into a giant multi-billion dollar symbol of racism, hatred, oppression, and fear of the “browning” of America. It has become the modern day equivalent of erecting statues of Confederate soldiers. Dems will thus not agree to this disgusting symbolism...trump wants it because it is symbolic of all the nasty shit he stands for.
You say a wall doesn't work ...... China has had a wall for how many centuries? Do they have a problem with illegal Mexicans? :fish:
 

james t kirk

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He should still declare a national emergency and get his funding that way. The Un Democrats are enemies of the people. Trump will hand them their asses in 2020.
Really?

You think Trump not getting his way qualifies as a "national emergency"?

So why not just anoint Trump king with unlimited powers to rule by decree while you're at it.

The reason Cadet Bonespurs hasn't declared a national emergency is that he has been told that if he does the whole thing will go to the Supreme Court and they will quash it making Trump look like an even bigger fool.
 

Frankfooter

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Trump is just adding to, or improving on that which has already been built.

Numbers of illegals might be down,
Its no emergency and a wall is the 18th century way to deal with the problem.
Far better would be better foreign policy to help those countries deal with issues so people don't need to flee.
 

Frankfooter

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I think its honestly, very decent of you to feel that helping others would be the answer.

I feel though, the USA will always be a better place of making a living, and remain the land of opportunity.
Meaning Mexico and countries south of it, will always be a desire to flee there.
It may always be a better place, but helping countries so that families don't feel like they have to risk their lives to escape their home countries would be far more effective and humane.
Though with the increasing divide between rich and poor in the US that Trump is aiding, maybe his plan to make life worse for Americans will help keep people from wanting to immigrate.
 

Insidious Von

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You say a wall doesn't work ...... China has had a wall for how many centuries? Do they have a problem with illegal Mexicans?
The Great Wall was a huge success against the Gorturks and the Mongols!

Trump is being a big sissy ingrate, he's benefited handsomely from illegal immigrants working on his properties. He has no respect, no respect at all. When he was a baby, his mother wouldn't breast feed him - she said she liked him as a friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMn--0skas8
 

Knuckle Ball

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The Great Wall was a huge success against the Gorturks and the Mongols!

Trump is being a big sissy ingrate, he's benefited handsomely from illegal immigrants working on his properties. He has no respect, no respect at all. When he was a baby, his mother wouldn't breast feed him - she said she liked him as a friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMn--0skas8
LOL...You mean trump’s Mom Friend Zoned him? That would explain a few things.
 

Knuckle Ball

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Its no emergency and a wall is the 18th century way to deal with the problem.
Far better would be better foreign policy to help those countries deal with issues so people don't need to flee.

I agree that helping these struggling countries would indeed better address the need of asylum seekers coming to the US.

Unfortunately, it will do little to change the demographic trends of white families’ having fewer children, minorities’ having larger families, and America’s becoming browner. Until white Americans accept this reality they are only going to continue to amp up efforts to hold onto their privileged status through various and assorted efforts to oppress people of colour.
 
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