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Ocasio-Cortez: Democrats' Green New Deal requires "massive government intervention"

Frankfooter

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Not if you turn off the energy stupid
Wow, what insight!

I'm going to write to AOC right now and tell her not to turn off all the power.
Phew, that was close.

Larue, you write a lost of stupid shit, but that might be a new top stupid statement.
 

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Was watching Pramila Jayapal on CNN talk about the GND.

Be afraid be very afraid. This sounds like War on Poverty II, War on Poverty I was an unmitigated disaster. The U.S. is currently spending a trillion dollars in the "War on Poverty" and the poverty rate now is actually 25% higher when President Johnson started the war.
This expensive leftist Latin American plan sounds doable.

All the Americans have to do is run the printing presses. That is what they are doing basically right now. Just keep on doing it.

Look at the trade war between America and China. The Chinese stopped buying soyabeans from Iowa. The Chinese stopped buying US petroleum products. The American trade deficit with China balloons to record levels. The situation is that the Chinese manufacture goods which are sent to America, and the Americans send the stuff that came off the printing presses in return.

What that AOC woman wants, such as electric cars, Telsa is rapidly increasing capacity in China, they could get the cars from there. Retrofitting old building to be more energy efficient could mean going solar, which China basically manufactures most of the world's solar panels. High speed rail can be imported into America from various countries. All the Americans have to do is continue printing money and execute her AOC plan.
 

Frankfooter

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Let's try again.

Frankfooter, your statement that "the new deal will be cheaper..." confirms that you now claim to be familiar with the contents.

So answer the question: Do you support the Green New Deal?

At the very least, clear up the mystery of why you're so afraid to answer the question.
Haven't had time to read it, but with extreme weather damage projected to keep increasing its bound to be cheaper, even just based off of the numbers thrown around here.
 

JohnLarue

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Wow, what insight!

I'm going to write to AOC right now and tell her not to turn off all the power.
Phew, that was close.

Larue, you write a lost of stupid shit, but that might be a new top stupid statement.
I recall you claiming "we will be off fossil fuels in 10 years anyways " in the pipeline thread & you have posted hundreds of times proclaiming the absolute truth of climate change
But now you say the plan to shut down fossil fuels is not to be taken seriously??????

Oh I get it, you really only want the socialist part of her plan. Ok
Yeah I think we will pass on this plan
 

Frankfooter

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I recall you claiming "we will be off fossil fuels in 10 years anyways " in the pipeline thread & you have posted hundreds of times proclaiming the absolute truth of climate change
I recall you admitting you're an idiot.

By the way, who was claiming that they would 'shut off all the power'?
Do you recall who said that?
 

JohnLarue

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Haven't had time to read it, but with extreme weather damage projected to keep increasing its bound to be cheaper, even just based off of the numbers thrown around here.
You have not read it, you say?
An exciting new democrat proposing socialism in the US . That's your wet dream frankiie and you have not bothered to read it, RIGHT
You lie with such ease, but you are not beleivable

The big assumption you are making is that climate change can be controlled.
Good luck fixing that while also installing a complete social and technological upheaval on the worlds population. No chance of problems there, eh frankie?
These nit wits could not even present a resolution paper properly & you think they have the answer???
 

Moviefan-2

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Haven't had time to read it....
OMG! According to Avi Lewis, it takes little more than seven minutes to read the 14-page document.

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/con...hat-canada-needs-now-is-a-green-new-deal.html

Frankfooter has spent more than seven minutes posting comments on this thread alone -- comments he admits were made in total ignorance of what is actually in the resolution.

This is incredibly revealing when it comes to Franky's mindless virtue signalling.

He would have us believe the planet faces imminent doom. Yet he can't find seven minutes to read a resolution that is supposedly designed to save the planet.
 

JohnLarue

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I recall you admitting you're an idiot.
No once again you have it wrong
You wore the dunce cap, then just as now

By the way, who was claiming that they would 'shut off all the power'?
Do you recall who said that?
AOCs goals are 100% complete elimination of fossil fuels & nuclear in 10 years, she was quite clear
That is 90% of the power in the US. so yeah she wants to shut it off & she has a timeline

They are going to vote on the resolution in the US senate and you have not bothered to read it? RIGHT

Let me give you some advise: The vast majority of your audience is not as stupid as you are. They simply are not fooled by childish lies.
A lot of them have already seen your behaviour in their kids at one time or another and its is not hard to recognise it
 

Frankfooter

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No once again you have it wrong
You wore the dunce cap, then just as now



AOCs goals are 100% complete elimination of fossil fuels & nuclear in 10 years, she was quite clear
That is 90% of the power in the US. so yeah she wants to shut it off & she has a timeline
That's not what it says.
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/02/0...on-introduced-by-rep-alexandra-ocasio-cortez/

It says the goals should be accomplished through a 10 year mobilization, not that the work would be done totally in 10 years.
 

JohnLarue

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That's not what it says.
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/02/0...on-introduced-by-rep-alexandra-ocasio-cortez/

It says the goals should be accomplished through a 10 year mobilization, not that the work would be done totally in 10 years.
What is the distinguishing difference between accomplished and done ???

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/accomplished
accomplished
adjective US ​ /əˈkɑm·plɪʃt/

able to do or finish something successfully:
done
adjective [ after verb ] UK ​ /dʌn/ US ​ /dʌn/
done adjective [ after verb ] (DEALT WITH)

If something is done, or you are done with it, it is finished, or you have finished doing, using it, etc.:
So again
AOCs goals are 100% complete elimination of fossil fuels & nuclear in 10 years, she was quite clear

The vast majority of your audience simply are not fooled by childish lies.
A lot of them have already seen your behaviour in their kids at one time or another and its is not hard to recognise it


BTW it looks like you finally read the damn thing
So you can either dismiss it as the work of a fool or get destroyed trying to defend what is clearly indefensible
What will it be?

Consensus opinion is that it is more comical than anything else
Do you deny this plan is ridiculous ?
 

JohnLarue

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I thought you claimed that consensus doesn't matter.
Are you changing your mind again?
Not at all I am just asking what you opinion of the plan is
As a hard core socialist your views have never aligned with consensus opinion, so I have no expectations your views would be changed by what other think

However i would expect any rational person to ask themselves if turning off the energy while trying to build massive infrastructure is the basis for any well thought out and practical plan

There is a big difference between claiming an absolute position on a scientific hypothesis based upon a controversial survey vs. asking someone what is their opinion on a plan which defies simple logic
 

Frankfooter

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Not at all I am just asking what you opinion of the plan is
As a hard core socialist ...
Sorry larue, but my views are more represented by mainstream Canadians then yours.
Calling people who support government funded medical care 'socialists' doesn't put you in the mainstream.
Just as your views as a denier of science put you on the fringe on the climate change issue as well.
 

JohnLarue

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Sorry larue, but my views are more represented by mainstream Canadians then yours.
A hard core commie like you says his views are more represented by mainstream Canadians. I do not think so
That is sooooo funny

Calling people who support government funded medical care 'socialists' doesn't put you in the mainstream.
That is not the reason I would call her a socialist. It is more like the fact she claims to be a Social democrate, wants to abolish airplanes & have the government manage society

Just as your views as a denier of science put you on the fringe on the climate change issue as well.
i do not deny climate change. The climate has been changing constantly for the last 4.5 B years & I expect it to continue to change

Now that we have dispensed with your usual evasiveness, and now you have read the document answer the question put to you
What is your opinion of teh GND as put forth by the fool AOC
 

Frankfooter

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A hard core commie like you says his views are more represented by mainstream Canadians. I do not think so
Them's the facts, johnnyboy!

The Angus Reid Institute’s latest poll suggests one in 10 Canadians believe climate change is a theory that hasn’t been proven. Another 20 per cent believe it’s caused by natural causes, and not human activity.
https://www.citynews1130.com/2018/11/30/poll-canadians-climate-change/

Only 1 in 10 back your crazy views.
 

JohnLarue

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Them's the facts, johnnyboy!


https://www.citynews1130.com/2018/11/30/poll-canadians-climate-change/

Only 1 in 10 back your crazy views.
Again science by polls does not prove a hypothesis.
I wonder how many of those polled could accurately describe what role CO2 plays in nature ?
Or accurately describe the why CO2 is considered a greenhouse gas and nitrogen is not ?
I wonder how many would answer correctly if asked role water plays in the greenhouse gas Hypothesis ?

If you are determined to have polling determine your each and every decision, then I guess you will be a content sheepeople, bleating "Ba Ba Deniar,,,,, Ba Ba Deniar"

Now that we have dispensed with your usual evasiveness, and now you have read the document answer the question put to you

What is your opinion of the GND as put forth by the fool AOC ?
or
will you continue to avoid answering direct questions?
 

Frankfooter

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Again science by polls does not prove a hypothesis.
I never said it did, johnnyboy.
Pay attention.

I claimed your views were extremist, and that poll says its so.

I wonder how many of those polled could accurately describe what role CO2 plays in nature ?
Or accurately describe the why CO2 is considered a greenhouse gas and nitrogen is not ?
Judging by that poll, I'd guess 90%.
Which would be 90% who know more than you, right?

By the way, was enjoying your work again today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtK11FJSQBY
 

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AOC is the best thing to happen to the Republicans in a long time.
The Democrats need to muzzle her fast.

Trump`s dream opponent would be Elizabeth Warren with AOC as her running mate.
 

kkelso

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AOC is the best thing to happen to the Republicans in a long time.
The Democrats need to muzzle her fast.

Trump`s dream opponent would be Elizabeth Warren with AOC as her running mate.
If it didn't mean 4 more years of Trump I'd campaign door-to-door for them myself.

KK
 

JohnLarue

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I never said it did, johnnyboy.
Pay attention.

I claimed your views were extremist, and that poll says its so.
And I pointed out to you that scientific hypothesis are not proven by polls

Give climate change is a scientific issue your point is (as usual) moot


Judging by that poll, I'd guess 90%.
Which would be 90% who know more than you, right?
Actually, since you can not answer the questions properly, it means 90% know more than you do, although I believe that to be far too harsh for the residual 10%

Now once again, you admit reading the document, so what is you position on the GND?
It is a proposal to install socialism in the US. That should be your wet dream as the US has been the stalwart against what you want. And they have been since World war II.
If your lot was to accomplish this, you would well on your way to the ultimate goal.

And you have zero opinion on the proposal? RIGHT

Now once again, you admit reading the document, so what is you position on the GND?
 
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