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Amidst Global Warming Hysteria, NASA Expects Global Cooling

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I'm sure Buffett is quite smart, he's just wrong on this one point.
The rest of the insurance industry is pretty clear, check it out yourself.
The insurance people will fuck their own mothers and dogs for a chance at the new revenue streams. They're paying out more because there are more people in iffy places like historic fire zones( California, BC and much of Northern Canada), hurricane zones and areas prone to flooding. They also collect a lot more. Citing the insurance industry is, pretty much, the last low.
 

K Douglas

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I'm sure Buffett is quite smart, he's just wrong on this one point.
The rest of the insurance industry is pretty clear, check it out yourself.
Actually that is untrue. Most of the large reinsurers have not mitigated for climate catastrophes.
The only reason the losses are higher is because we have more to lose.
All the statistics kept by EPA, NOAA, CDC etc show no discernible increase in either the quantity or strength of floods, droughts, wildfires, hurricanes or tornadoes in the contiguous United States since 1900
https://www.investors.com/politics/...bal-warming-isnt-making-weather-more-extreme/
 

Phil C. McNasty

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You really think that the insurance industry is that stupid that they don't already factor those in?
Do you mind posting that raw data so we can confirm this??
 

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Actually that is untrue. Most of the large reinsurers have not mitigated for climate catastrophes.
The only reason the losses are higher is because we have more to lose.
All the statistics kept by EPA, NOAA, CDC etc show no discernible increase in either the quantity or strength of floods, droughts, wildfires, hurricanes or tornadoes in the contiguous United States since 1900
https://www.investors.com/politics/...bal-warming-isnt-making-weather-more-extreme/
That's a denier opinion piece using cherry picked stats.
That's why its better to look at what the insurance industry is actually doing with their business and money and whether or not they take it seriously.
Insurance people are the most conservative around, but they clearly see increased claims from climate change increased extreme weather.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/insurers-extreme-weather-canada-1.4497456
 

K Douglas

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That's a denier opinion piece using cherry picked stats.
That's why its better to look at what the insurance industry is actually doing with their business and money and whether or not they take it seriously.
Insurance people are the most conservative around, but they clearly see increased claims from climate change increased extreme weather.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/insurers-extreme-weather-canada-1.4497456
You really are stuck on stupid. Of course the insurance people are going to say this - it gives them ample opportunity to make more money. We know the claims are higher. But that's because there are more people and more material wealth concentrated in smaller areas. It's not because of increased extreme weather events.
The stats I provided are straight from NOAA and EPA. It's plain as day.
 

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You really are stuck on stupid. Of course the insurance people are going to say this - it gives them ample opportunity to make more money. We know the claims are higher. But that's because there are more people and more material wealth concentrated in smaller areas. It's not because of increased extreme weather events.
The stats I provided are straight from NOAA and EPA. It's plain as day.
Funny how NASA says you're wrong.
The number of record high temperature events in the United States has been increasing, while the number of record low temperature events has been decreasing, since 1950. The U.S. has also witnessed increasing numbers of intense rainfall events.12
https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
 

Frankfooter

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NASA is lying. By far the highest number of heatwaves were in the 1920's and 1930's in the United States
https://realclimatescience.com/fakedchart145.png[g][/QUOTE]

Nice faked chart, buddy.
No data, no links, just total garbage.

Typical.

Obviously you can't tell real sources, like NASA, vs propaganda.
 

K Douglas

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Nice faked chart, buddy.
No data, no links, just total garbage.

Typical.

Obviously you can't tell real sources, like NASA, vs propaganda.
Not fake. Real raw data taken from weather stations across the U.S. The shit you post is data that is manipulated in order to further an agenda.

Guest Opinion: Dr. Tim Ball [commentary in italic]

It is common sense to protect our environment, but what has occurred for 50 years is exploitation of that idea for a socialist agenda. We wasted 50 years believing that humans are not natural, and everything they do is destructive. We wasted and continue to waste trillions of dollars on unnecessary policies and useless technologies, all based on false assumptions, pseudoscience, and emotional bullying.

We now know 50 years later that every single prediction concerning the environmental demise of the Earth and the people made in the original Earth Day Report was wrong. We also know that every additional claim, such as overpopulation, global warming, sea level rise, desertification, deforestation, and sea ice collapse, among many others, were wrong. I challenge anyone to produce empirical evidence that proves anything happening today is outside any long-term record of natural activity.

Convince the people that the entire world is threatened, and you can convince them that no nation can save it. It is then easy to convince them that a world government is the only way to save the planet. The trouble is that none of it is true. The World is in good shape, and people are living longer and healthier lives in every nation.

Like the majority of people, Elaine Dewar assumed environmentalists were commendable even heroic people. She began research for a book singing their praises. It didn’t take long to learn the basic premise was wrong. Following the traditional and proper methodology, rarely seen these days, Dewar identified the duplicitous characters involved in the Canadian environmental movement and laid them out in her book Cloak of Green. She spent five days at the UN with Canadian Maurice Strong arguably the world architect of official environmentalism. He was praised excessively, as in this article, “The World Mourns One of its Greats: Maurice Strong Dies, His Legacy Lives On.” Another article recognized the evil he personified, “Who is Global Warming Propagandist Maurice Strong?” After the five days, Dewar concluded,

“Strong was using the U.N. as a platform to sell a global environment crisis and the Global Governance Agenda.”

The environmental movement as the basis for a socialist world government was in the minds of people like Strong and fellow members of the Club of Rome in the late 1960s. However, it was launched on the world on April 22, 1970, by a small group centered at Stanford University. The date is critical because it was the first Earth Day. It is also very important to know the choice was deliberate because it is the birthday of Vladimir Lenin. The environmental movement was a deliberate program to impose communism on the world.

The underlying theme of the environmental movement makes the following false assumptions.

That almost all change is a result of human activity. The UN claim, using computer models, that 95%+ of temperature increase since 1950 is due to human-produced CO2. This works because they don’t consider most natural causes.
That humans are unnatural. The 1990 “Greenpeace Report on Global Warming” says CO2 is added to the atmosphere “naturally and unnaturally.” Yes, that unnatural production is from humans.
That we are not part of nature. Ingrid Newkirk, co-founder of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) comment explains.
“Mankind is a cancer; we’re the biggest blight on the face of the earth.” “If you haven’t given voluntary human extinction much thought before, the idea of a world with no people in it may seem strange. But, if you give it a chance, I think you might agree that the extinction of Homo Sapiens would mean survival for millions if not billions, of Earth-dwelling species. Phasing out the human race will solve every problem on earth, social and environmental.”

That we should be eliminated or dramatically reduced in number. In May 2015, the Pope produced Laudate Si an Encyclical about his view of the state of the Earth. It is a socialist diatribe, but that is not surprising since the main contributor was Hans Schellnhuber, a pantheist. This group believes the world population should be below 1 billion people.
That if the western world reduces levels of CO2 production, the rest of the world will follow. China has 2,363 coal plants and is constructing 1,171 more. The US has 15 and is not constructing any.
The US can build as many clean-burning coal plants as they want and burn coal pollution free. They don’t have to worry about CO2 because it is not a pollutant and is not causing climate change. No significant environmental problems are threatening the world. All the stories about impending environmental doom are fictions deliberately created to make people surrender control to the government. It is time to break the emotional stranglehold of those who used the environment to create global socialism.
 

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Not fake. Real raw data taken from weather stations across the U.S. The shit you post is data that is manipulated in order to further an agenda.

Guest Opinion: Dr. Tim Ball [commentary in italic]
OMG!

You believe Tim Ball over NASA et al?
You really have no clue.
 

K Douglas

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OMG!

You believe Tim Ball over NASA et al?
You really have no clue.
You bet I do. Who's in charge of NASA? Gavin Schmidt. A notable alarmist who is a mathematical modeler.
 

Frankfooter

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You bet I do. Who's in charge of NASA? Gavin Schmidt. A notable alarmist who is a mathematical modeler.
Models are used in stats, medicine and all through science.
Without them you can't make any projections about what will happen in the future.
Which I'm sure would be your preference.

Tim Ball is a real kook.
 

K Douglas

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Models are used in stats, medicine and all through science.
Without them you can't make any projections about what will happen in the future.
Which I'm sure would be your preference.

Tim Ball is a real kook.
Tim Ball is a warrior who has stood up to relentless bullying from the climate cadre. If that's a kook I'll take that over a rat (Schmidt) any day.
 

K Douglas

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Me, I'll just trust the work of scientists, not 'warriors'.
Pseudo scientists beholden to politicians and bureaucracy. No thank you. Eisenhower's prediction was spot on.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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So its fucking June and I had the heat on tonight as it dropped down to a low of +6 Celsius.

But yeah, global warming
 
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