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Amidst Global Warming Hysteria, NASA Expects Global Cooling

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by James Delingpole

A German professor has confirmed what skeptics from Britain to the US have long suspected: that NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies has largely invented “global warming” by tampering with the raw temperature data records.
Professor Dr. Friedrich Karl Ewert is a retired geologist and data computation expert. He has painstakingly examined and tabulated all NASA GISS’s temperature data series, taken from 1153 stations and going back to 1881. His conclusion: that if you look at the raw data, as opposed to NASA’s revisions, you’ll find that since 1940 the planet has been cooling, not warming.
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And you believe this retired geologist that the planet isn't warming?
 

K Douglas

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And you believe this retired geologist that the planet isn't warming?
What I believe is that NASA has artificially enhanced the warming through data adjustments. Dr. Don Easterbrook has shown it and now Dr Ewert has corroborated it. Overall I agree that the earth has been warming and has done so since the end of the LIA in the mid 19th century. I believe the majority of that warming is located in the oceans, which comprise 70% of the planet. Land surface warming has been minimal to non existent once you remove the urban heat island effect.
 

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What I believe is that NASA has artificially enhanced the warming through data adjustments. Dr. Don Easterbrook has shown it and now Dr Ewert has corroborated it. Overall I agree that the earth has been warming and has done so since the end of the LIA in the mid 19th century. I believe the majority of that warming is located in the oceans, which comprise 70% of the planet. Land surface warming has been minimal to non existent once you remove the urban heat island effect.
Funny isn't it how only this one retired geologist has found this while every other scientist in the world respects and accepts the temp findings by NASA, NOAA and every other body that records global temps.
 

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Heavy rain and snow tonight, with a low of 3C: https://www.accuweather.com/en/ca/toronto/m5j/daily-weather-forecast/55488?day=1

2cm of snow possible tomorrow, and a low of 1C: https://www.accuweather.com/en/ca/toronto/m5j/daily-weather-forecast/55488?day=2

But yeah, global warming
AMOC slowdown.

That's the big worry and the most likely reason why the east coast and us are experiencing lower temperatures.
Check the global temp map for the winter.



That blue spot in the North Atlantic is likely the result of changes to the AMOC.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/...antics-circulation-is-weakest-in-1-600-years/

The problem is that this is one of the mechanisms that's been linked to massive and sudden climate change in the past.
http://www.tunisiesoir.com/science/...tion-sent-planet-into-deep-freeze-15170-2019/
https://www.earth.com/news/slowdown-atlantic-circulation-system/

Enjoy.
 

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Phil C. McNasty

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Wait, these articles predict a mini ice-age.
And werent you laughing at Porn Addict for saying we might enter a mini ice-age soon?? :nod:
You dont even know what bullshit you write anymore, Frankie.

Right from your articles:

A million years ago, a longtime pattern of alternating glaciations and warm periods dramatically changed, when ice ages suddenly became longer and more intense. Scientists have long suspected that this was connected to the slowdown of a key Atlantic Ocean current system that today once again is slowing
The two studies came to broadly similar conclusions: The AMOC is in a very weakened state—the most anemic it has been in the last 1,600 years, according to Thornalley’s results.

The studies differ on the timing of when that weakening began. Thornalley’s record, which spans those 1,600 years, suggests it started at the end of the little ice age, a period from about A.D. 1350 to 1850, when solar and volcanic influences depressed temperatures across the Northern Hemisphere and glaciers and ice sheets expanded
 

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Without clicking on the link let me guess - they are blaming this slowdown on increased co2 in the atmosphere. Too predictable.
Truth is that scientists know relatively little about the oceans and their effect on climate. Prior to 21st century we didn't even have accurate temperature measurements. That lack of knowledge renders the GCM's futile in their predictive ability.
But maybe it can explain why there is a rapid increase in North Atlantic sea turtles being cold stunned off the coast of New England the past few years? Perhaps the waters of the tropical Atlantic are not as warm as they used to be?
 

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Without clicking on the link let me guess - they are blaming this slowdown on increased co2 in the atmosphere. Too predictable.
Truth is that scientists know relatively little about the oceans and their effect on climate. Prior to 21st century we didn't even have accurate temperature measurements. That lack of knowledge renders the GCM's futile in their predictive ability.
But maybe it can explain why there is a rapid increase in North Atlantic sea turtles being cold stunned off the coast of New England the past few years? Perhaps the waters of the tropical Atlantic are not as warm as they used to be?
Gotta love the gall of someone who refuses to find out the basics of a subject then accuses others of knowing very little.
Well done, Kirk, you've really established the quality of your expertise.
 

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Heavy rain and snow tonight, with a low of 3C: https://www.accuweather.com/en/ca/toronto/m5j/daily-weather-forecast/55488?day=1

2cm of snow possible tomorrow, and a low of 1C: https://www.accuweather.com/en/ca/toronto/m5j/daily-weather-forecast/55488?day=2

But yeah, global warming
Still having trouble with the difference between weather and climate?

BTW: The February 2019 global land and ocean surface temperature was the fifth highest for February in the 140-year record at 0.79°C (1.42°F) above the 20th century average.
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201902

While we were 3 C below average, Alaska, Russia, and Europe were 4 C above average and the Southern Hemisphere was 2.5 C above.
 

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Still having trouble with the difference between weather and climate?
I was doing great until Frankie showed up with his AMOC slowdown theory.

So now he's claiming earth is warming up, but AMOC is actually slowing climate down and causing a cooling effect, which in turn might cause a mini ice-age (the very thing he was mocking Porn Addict for).

I couldnt make this shit up if I tried :biggrin1:
 

Frankfooter

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I was doing great until Frankie showed up with his AMOC slowdown theory.

So now he's claiming earth is warming up, but AMOC is actually slowing climate down and causing a cooling effect, which in turn might cause a mini ice-age (the very thing he was mocking Porn Addict for).

I couldnt make this shit up if I tried :biggrin1:
Science is hard for you, isn't it Phil.
Its hard to understand that the climate can change, that its getting warming but we also risk, at the same time, stopping a mechanism that spreads the warmth around the Northern Hemisphere/Atlantic Ocean.

What its doing right now is keeping us in one of the few spots on the planet that hasn't been warming up as equally as the rest of the planet.




http://www.realclimate.org/index.ph...ger-of-a-breakdown-of-the-gulf-stream-system/
 

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Still having trouble with the difference between weather and climate?

BTW: The February 2019 global land and ocean surface temperature was the fifth highest for February in the 140-year record at 0.79°C (1.42°F) above the 20th century average.
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201902

While we were 3 C below average, Alaska, Russia, and Europe were 4 C above average and the Southern Hemisphere was 2.5 C above.
In contrast, the UAH global temperature anomaly for Jan was 0.37°C, Feb 0.36°C and Mar 0.34°C based on the 1981-2010 mean.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/
 

K Douglas

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Science is hard for you, isn't it Phil.
Its hard to understand that the climate can change, that its getting warming but we also risk, at the same time, stopping a mechanism that spreads the warmth around the Northern Hemisphere/Atlantic Ocean.

What its doing right now is keeping us in one of the few spots on the planet that hasn't been warming up as equally as the rest of the planet.




http://www.realclimate.org/index.ph...ger-of-a-breakdown-of-the-gulf-stream-system/
The fact that they are using the 1951-1980 average as a baseline completely undermines their credibility as far as I'm concerned.
 

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In contrast, the UAH global temperature anomaly for Jan was 0.37°C, Feb 0.36°C and Mar 0.34°C based on the 1981-2010 mean.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/
Atmospheric temperatures again, kirk.

I know your home in the clouds is lovely and all, but the rest of us live on the surface of the planet which is why we all talk about surface temperatures, not the temp in the clouds.
Carry on.
 

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Atmospheric temperatures again, kirk.

I know your home in the clouds is lovely and all, but the rest of us live on the surface of the planet which is why we all talk about surface temperatures, not the temp in the clouds.
Carry on.
You're joking right?
 

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I was doing great until Frankie showed up with his AMOC slowdown theory.

So now he's claiming earth is warming up, but AMOC is actually slowing climate down and causing a cooling effect, which in turn might cause a mini ice-age (the very thing he was mocking Porn Addict for).

I couldnt make this shit up if I tried :biggrin1:
A very LOCALIZED cooling effect that also results in significant WARMING for other regions.
 
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