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Amidst Global Warming Hysteria, NASA Expects Global Cooling

K Douglas

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If that were true, then how come scientists working under right wing governments all around the world still come up with the same answers?
Wouldn't those governments just buy some contrary researchers if it were that easy to fudge the results?
How come all the scientists in the US haven't changed their views on climate change now that Trump is in power?
You think that just because a right wing government gets into power it somehow changes the bureaucracy at the senior levels? Doesn't work that way. Furthermore, there are many scientists on the skeptic side of climate change who cannot or choose not to speak out for fear of loss of income, intimidation from colleagues and/or special interests or legal action. Look at the case with James Cook University for example
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...was-unlawful-court-rules-20190416-p51etz.html
 

basketcase

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Is it really your contention that warmer temperatures and more atmospheric co2 is bad for plant growth and crop yields?
Sorry but I am absolutely more concerned about temperatures where I live and where all my food is produced near the surface than I am with what temperatures are in the upper atmosphere.


Do you deny that surface temperatures (including the mountains and oceans) is rising?
 

basketcase

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Tell me specifically what is wrong with my statement? Are there weather station(s) in the Sahara Desert? In the Himalayan mountains? In the Amazon rain forest? In the Canadian Arctic there is 1 weather station in Eureka. 1 weather station for a land mass that is greater than the continental United States! How many weather buoys are in the oceans which comprise 70% of the planet? It's an absolute joke to say that we have an accurate surface temperature record today, let alone in 1950 or in 1900. Yet we have idiots who want to de carbonise the planet using this shitty data. They want us to go back to living in caves. Fucking twats.
I guess you have never heard of these things launched into space called satellites that are sometimes fitted with sensitive equipment to measure temperature variations. Of course if you don't know about satellites then I'll assume you have never heard about black body radiation and infrared.
 

K Douglas

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Sorry but I am absolutely more concerned about temperatures where I live and where all my food is produced near the surface than I am with what temperatures are in the upper atmosphere.


Do you deny that surface temperatures (including the mountains and oceans) is rising?
No I don't deny that. But I don't think it poses a threat. I don't think its unusual in the course of climate history. And I think its a net benefit to society.
 

K Douglas

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I guess you have never heard of these things launched into space called satellites that are sometimes fitted with sensitive equipment to measure temperature variations. Of course if you don't know about satellites then I'll assume you have never heard about black body radiation and infrared.
Satellites cannot measure surface temperature I'm sure you are aware of that. So in order to determine what the surface temperature is in remote regions with no weather station they use GCM estimates. And we all know how well the GCM's have worked so far ;)
 

Frankfooter

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Satellites cannot measure surface temperature I'm sure you are aware of that.
Yes, that's why the deniers rely on them, because the surface shows big warming.
It classic bait and switch and apparently works quite well on those who can't think through the arguments by themselves.
 

K Douglas

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Yes, that's why the deniers rely on them, because the surface shows big warming.
It classic bait and switch and apparently works quite well on those who can't think through the arguments by themselves.
Surface only shows big warming because a) data has been adjusted and b) weather stations have been closed in most rural locations. In other words it's fake.
 

bver_hunter

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False claims of a coming ice age spread through ecosystem of unreliable news sites, blogs, and social media accounts:

https://climatefeedback.org/false-c...iable-news-sites-blogs-social-media-accounts/

I think that the right wingers on this Board should first try to convince baby Scheer and Dumb DOFO about their myths, as those two still believe in Climate change and Carbon Emissions.
Then when they do so, should they then come and argue their case on this board!!
 

Phil C. McNasty

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That's your standard of evidence? Wow. Were you drunk while posting?
Get a sense of humor, dude.
Of course we're never going to see palm trees in Toronto.
Although it would be nice if we did :nod:
 
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