Its still looking better then the Scarborough subway.The years and years of construction road closures financial risks
The years and years of construction road closures financial risks
Fortunately Harris's Conservative predecessors who shut Yonge St. top to bottom and Bloor through the core to get us those two subway lines weren't as stupid as the Duffer. They were Progressive Conservatives.The years and years of construction road closures financial risks
Almost as idiotic as a 1 stop Scarborough subway, eh?This crosstown should have been built when Lastman was Mayor. But that clown wanted a 5 stop Sheppard Subway line instead. Complete mismanagement and lack of vision.
If everyone thought that way then Vic park, Warden, And Kennedy Stations wouldn't have been built.Almost as idiotic as a 1 stop Scarborough subway, eh?
No, the problem is when they waste resources.If everyone thought that way then Vic park, Warden, And Kennedy Stations wouldn't have been built.
The problem was when they cheaped out and went with the RT. That killed continued subway expansion.
If they had of continued the one stop per year policy this argument wouldn't be happening.No, the problem is when they waste resources.
Build a subway only when the population density is there to support it.
Otherwise use LRT.
Was supposed to be a 3 stop subway extension which is far more optimal than an LRT. Especially with winters heading into snowier and cooler years ahead. Why are the people of Scarborough less entitled to quality mass rapid transit in your books?Almost as idiotic as a 1 stop Scarborough subway, eh?
'Entitled'?Was supposed to be a 3 stop subway extension which is far more optimal than an LRT. Especially with winters heading into snowier and cooler years ahead. Why are the people of Scarborough less entitled to quality mass rapid transit in your books?
Sad day when the hard core right wants the city to pay for what they describe as entitlement and turns their back on economics....
Its basic economics, not entitlements....
The political games continue to this day.Mike Harris did not kill the eglinton subway back in the 90's.
Metro Toronto council did that.
Harris basically said that he was going to contribute x dollars (down from 3x as promised by Bob Rae) and that was it. Metro Toronto could decide for itself if it wanted to build Sheppard and Eglinton (and the city would have to make up the shortfall itself), or just Sheppard, or just Eglinton.
The morons at Metro Toronto voted to build just Sheppard. Mel Lastman (then Mayor of the former City of North York) was going to get his subway come hell or high water. (The rumour was that he was getting death threats from his "friends" who had speculated on the land along Sheppard based on the windfall that would come with a subway.)
Little Francis Nunziatta, the then Mayor of the former City of York, the poorest city in Metro Toronto never had a prayer against Lastman.
IMO, they should build a subway line under Adelaide or Richmond because it would be less disruptive to traffic, businesses and existing lines on Queen and King. Potential stations on Richmond or Adelaide line would still be walking distance to both Queen and King.The Queen subway is going to be a bust, the subway should be on King:
1.) King is already congested to the point that for transit to move they’ve effectively had to make King St. Car free in the downtown core.
2.) St. Andrew ( King & University ) and King ( Yonge & King) subway stations are among the busiest as they service the downtown business core. Osgoode (Queen & University) along with Museum on the University line are basically dead, with Queen ( Yonge & Queen) is average.
3.) streetcars in King are already packed with people from Liberty village having to wait for streetcars as many eastbound streetcars are filled before King & Dufferin
Where? No link visible on my screen.I wonder how much money has been spent on transit plans over the past 4 decades that went nowhere? There would be the countless consultants, the time council spent reviewing, debating, etc.
It has got to be millions, if not close to a billion.
Below is a link to an article of yet another planned subway extension (no doubt costing hundreds of thousands of dollars to produce) back in the 80's.
Trouble is that Toronto can come up with ideas but no one or group has the balls to execute something because they are bickering over the small details and entrenched in their own political camps.
Yes, there has been additions to the system, but it has been much, much less than what could have been done.
Another note is that in this extreme cold weather it appears that the above ground tracks are causing major problems and shut downs. Again, more money goes into fixing or outright replacing things whereas if you spend a few bucks more at the time to put it underground and you save in the long run.
I think once Toronto figures it out there will be flying cars and no need for transit...
D'oh!Where?