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A definite change of position. McCallum as Canadian ambassador does not offer his personal opinions. He reflects the Canadian government's thinking.

I think that there was enough flack from Ministers and backbenchers at the last internal meeting to steer the ship around, and I think Freeland's quest for international support at Davos didn't pan out; what country would ruin its trade relations with China over a Canadian screw-up?

The whole thing was a foreign affairs fiasco.

I was wondering who is going to take or has taken the fall for this. Jody Wilson-Raybould was sacked as Justice Minister; and I wonder if part of the reason was the handling of the US extradition request. Then there is Foreign Affairs Minister Freeland, who until very recently, was insisting on her rule-of-law, and getting high profile neocons to support her assertions, like SoS Pompeo. She may have recently come to the realization that Canada does not have permanent friends, to paraphrase Lord Palmerston. Indeed, we got squat from the US for pushing their geopolitical agenda; just hostility from Trump in the form of personal invective and impulsive trade penalties. I think Freeland will have to resign over this, if the new Justice Minister quashes the extradition request, as being against Canada's interests.
 

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mccallum-meng-huawei-china-1.4989235

I think the comments by Ambassador McCallum is a strong hint that Miss Meng will soon be on a flight home.

Maybe next time the U.S. will ask Canada to grab a Russian hockey player. What a farce.
That's Mrs. Meng. She's got 3 kids and a husband. Also a cancer survivor and a woman who broke through the glass ceiling. Ironically, on his last state visit to China, Trudeau linked gender equality to a free trade agreement with China..... and we then tossed one of their show-case female executives in the slammer.
 

Darts

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Ambassador McCallum resigns.

It is obvious he no longer wanted to be part of this farce. He is, obviously, much more intelligent than his boss.

The U.S. has until January 30, 2019 (Wednesday) to file the extradition request. If they do, then a Canadian court will test the merit of the request. This will take us into the October 19, 2019 federal election.

BTW: There was also that Liberal MP who crossed the floor a while back.
 

Insidious Von

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That's Mrs. Meng. She's got 3 kids and a husband. Also a cancer survivor and a woman who broke through the glass ceiling. Ironically, on his last state visit to China, Trudeau linked gender equality to a free trade agreement with China..... and we then tossed one of their show-case female executives in the slammer.
Yes, enthusiastically agree! Mrs. Meng broke through the glass ceiling like Belinda Stronach did, put them up on pedestals.

McCallum is burned out, all those years of opposition finally got him. Becoming Ambassador to China was meant to be a reward for his services, he just wanted to come home.
 

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Didn’t her father pull her through the glass ceiling?
 

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McCallum's wife is Chinese that's the reason he got the position. They thought this made him qualified. He's a pussy whipped drunk. She's probably a spy. She's been telling what to say cuz he's whipped

Both traitors. Hang em
 

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McCallum's wife is Chinese that's the reason he got the position. They thought this made him qualified. He's a pussy whipped drunk. She's probably a spy. She's been telling what to say cuz he's whipped

Both traitors. Hang em
I agree McCallum has always been an idiot..
 

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McCallum was the only guy with a brain in this federal Liberal government.

He is the only one who understands foreign affairs and diplomacy.

If you do not believe this, I will prove it.

USA
China
Mexico
Saudi Arabia
Syria
Russia

Notice that the government of Canada, as represented by the Prime Minister Trudeau and the Foreign Minister Freeland, is at loggerheads with all those countries on that list. There is probably more but I forgot.

What the hell?!

McCallum accomplished one thing with his comments, and that is to deescalate the situation. For that he got fired. The whole thing with Canada and China started early December, now it is late January, and only now were they able to deescalate the situation.

To deescalate the situation is the only move possible. They have to deescalate the situation before any Canadians can be returned home. Trudeau and Freeland never figured out such a basic point.

The ruling Liberals only pride themselves on giving foreigners the same smug lecture, that no one wants to hear, as that list indicates. That's why that list is so damn long, lol.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

There is no other word applicable.

:whoo:
 

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McCallum was the only guy with a brain in this federal Liberal government.

He is the only one who understands foreign affairs and diplomacy.

If you do not believe this, I will prove it.

USA
China
Mexico
Saudi Arabia
Syria
Russia

Notice that the government of Canada, as represented by the Prime Minister Trudeau and the Foreign Minister Freeland, is at loggerheads with all those countries on that list. There is probably more but I forgot.

What the hell?!

McCallum accomplished one thing with his comments, and that is to deescalate the situation. For that he got fired. The whole thing with Canada and China started early December, now it is late January, and only now were they able to deescalate the situation.

To deescalate the situation is the only move possible. They have to deescalate the situation before any Canadians can be returned home. Trudeau and Freeland never figured out such a basic point.

The ruling Liberals only pride themselves on giving foreigners the same smug lecture, that no one wants to hear, as that list indicates. That's why that list is so damn long, lol.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

There is no other word applicable.

:whoo:
Anybody with integrity is at loggerheads with those countries. They are corrupt and undemocratic. Some are murderous regimes. One has an orange turd-child as President.
 

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Anybody with integrity is at loggerheads with those countries. They are corrupt and undemocratic. Some are murderous regimes. One has an orange turd-child as President.
You're missing the point. Countries have interests and economic interests come first. That's why the US and UK support the now one man rule dictatorship in Saudi Arabia that happens to be bombing one of the poorest countries in the world: because Saudi Arabia feeds US and UK military industries with billion dollar contracts. The US supports tin-pot dictatorships because they give US companies free hand at stripping their countries of their resources.

Chinese industry now compete with US industry and the latter use the so-called rule of law to keep them out.

Canada is very foolish to think that it can side with the US on this issue and get any economic benefits, especially when the US just screwed us on NAFTA and put anti- competition tariffs on us.

At the same time, we are ruining our trade relations with China, that was a chance to expand into a huge growing market as an alternative to US trade restrictions.

The US had no friends... just interests. Our government is too stupid to think that this is good for us.
 

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Another Canadian arrested. Apparently, he stole or was trying to steal over $300 million from an entertainment company.
 

wilbur

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Does anyone understand these charges? They seem to be mostly U.S. laws. I know in the past Canada and Canadians ignored U.S. laws like boycotting Cuba and extraditing American alleged murderers back to the U.S.
Canada's foreign policy had changed since Freeland took over as foreign minister. It's now globalist with the US purporting to lead the world. Wiping out 40 years of independent foreign policy.
 

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Germany does not want to exclude Huawei from 5G buildout - Handelsblatt

Feb 7. 2019

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/07/reu...de-huawei-from-5g-buildout--handelsblatt.html

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Italy denies it will ban Huawei, ZTE from its 5G plans

February 7, 2019 / 2:49 AM

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...an-huawei-zte-from-its-5g-plans-idUSKCN1PW0LV

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Huawei and 5G: Decision time

February 7, 2019

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47160725

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Some international business news today.

Where does Canada position itself on this?

Canada threw the company founder's daughter in jail!

:whoo:
 
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