Apple is a virtuous company.

I have never owned an Apple product and never will. Plenty of other options at a cheaper price.

Insidious Von said:

Apple recently got burned in the PRC. Never bought into the hype and probably never will.

https://www.scmp.com/tech/gear/article/2177406/apple-hit-qualcomm-patent-dispute-china-court-bans-iphone-sales-upping

Tim Cook is driving the company into the ground. Steve Jobs pushed innovation, Cook pushes greed of the most rapacious kind.

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I think the problem with Cook is that he has absolutely no vision for what the company should be. The worst is how he used Apples cash holdings - primarily for stock buybacks. Apple has not made one significant acquisition under his leadership. Eg: Apple could have bought Netflix in the $40's without making a significant dent in their cash holdings 5 years ago. And the way he still holds Apple events to basically launch and say nothing has bugged me for years - they actually hurt the company because of the buildup and hype for what was inevitably a lunch-bag letdown. The only new product that Cook's launched has been the Airpods and they've been a flop. They've completely missed out on the smarthome - with Google Home and Amazon Alexa dominating there. He needs to be replaced and if their results disappoint on the 29th - you will start to hear an increasing chorus about this.

You mean Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs? Who's father is an Arab and Muslim.

technology has an inverse relationship to price. Unless the iphone can make me cum on demand, $446 billion in shareholder value erased, make me want to do the gangnam style

Jobs was a disruptor with design skills, not many/any of those in tech.

Cook is a supply chain guy, all operations, no vision.

The phone business alone will keep them going for a decade.

If they can’t innovate they should do what mature behemoths do, acquire.

Wow, never knew terb has Apple hate threads as well.

Enjoy your long wait on apple's demise. lol

onthebottom said:

Jobs was a disruptor with design skills, not many/any of those in tech.

Cook is a supply chain guy, all operations, no vision.

The phone business alone will keep them going for a decade.

If they can’t innovate they should do what mature behemoths do, acquire.

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No way Cook is a supply chain guy. He's doing a horrible job at it for it to be true.

And Job's was not perfect either. Once everyone saw what he was doing or trying to move the industry, he was starting to become ineffective.

curr3n_c1000 said:

No way Cook is a supply chain guy. He's doing a horrible job at it for it to be true.

And Job's was not perfect either. Once everyone saw what he was doing or trying to move the industry, he was starting to become ineffective.

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On Cook:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Cook

As for Jobs, perfect is a silly standard. He defined the mobile computing era and resurrected the company he literally started in a garage to become the world first $1T company. Not perfect, also unparalleled.

I dunno... I do like their phones. Everything just works and I like that.

I want them to do well, but I welcome an end to the religious-like consumer fanaticism over a cell/laptop company. I've never understood it. The waiting in line for days for the latest phone. Yes, some of their products are superior to the competition in important ways.

Had Jobs not died, he would have run into the same problems that Apple is now facing. Continuously 'innovating' is extremely difficult. The greatest geniuses in human history almost always created brilliant works for a short window of time. You see it in music all the time - a few landmark albums from a band before the creativity well runs dry.

Tech hasn't moved much in the mobile space. Competitors offer smartphones and laptops, that do all the essentials. How do you maintain growth without being able to dream up new revolutionary features for existing tech or a brand new revolutionary device? Squeeze money any way you can off existing customer base and/or acquire like onthebottom stated - buy up competitors and innovators, the way companies like Facebook and Google bought Instagram and YouTube.

Smallcock said:

Had Jobs not died, he would have run into the same problems that Apple is now facing. Continuously 'innovating' is extremely difficult.

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had the apple not fell on Jobs head, there would not have been an Apple. But can we really give credit to the LSD

anon1 said:

You mean Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs? Who's father is an Arab and Muslim.

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Job's biological father was Syrian and he abandoned Jobs as an infant and Jobs was adopted by a Christian American family who raised him as such.

Job's biological mother was of Swiss German background and was catholic.

Jobs would refer to his biological parents as his Sperm and egg donors since he viewed his parents as those who adopted and raised him.