So I have seen this before. An Asian SP dreaming of staying in Canada and opening a business to get out of the SP business. They work for years as an SP and save their money, working long hours, delivering great service as an SP. During this time they somehow get their Canadian citizenship. The day they get a passport is a giant milestone. Then they leave the business, maybe with a few hundred thousand to invest and start a business. A few years later. Now older, less attractive, tired and sadder, they are back as an SP - the other business having not worked out. I don't know what the other business was that they invested in. I don't ask. Anyway, what is a girl to do? Say a former Asian SP wants out of the SP business. She has Canadian citizenship, passable English but not a university graduate and not likely to make it through college or any higher education. She has a few hundred thousand to invest. What can she invest in, start up, that is most likely to succeed business wise and provide her with a living?
An Asian SPs dream - get out of the biz and open a business
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An Asian SP can easily sucker an older white client to
marry her. Actually I don't really know any Asian SP. But
based on success stories I heard from various AMP owners
about their former staff I think it is reasonable to assume
a typical Asian SP as marriage material is no less desirable
than Asian MPAs.
marry her. Actually I don't really know any Asian SP. But
based on success stories I heard from various AMP owners
about their former staff I think it is reasonable to assume
a typical Asian SP as marriage material is no less desirable
than Asian MPAs.
Yes I have known some who have taken the marriage route out of the business. I don't know how successful their marriages are. But I haven't seen any return to the business who took this route. However, when mentioning this possibility to others, they are not at all interested (I don't suggest marrying me, just marriage as a way out of the business). I don't get it, they would rather service hundreds or thousands of clients over the years and save their money than marry someone (and possibly dump him and get alimony). I guess they are just very independent (and honest).
I don’t see this being different for Asian or any other nationality. I know a European girl working hard to put money away, invested, to start her own business. Big plans and she not sharing details.
I know a couple Canadian born and raised SP’s, working hard, investing, planning early retirement wih a side business.
Others are in university, learning business, big plans for after thier SP years.
Some of these ladies are smarter than they let on. Others party away profits.
It’s thier choice.
I know a couple Canadian born and raised SP’s, working hard, investing, planning early retirement wih a side business.
Others are in university, learning business, big plans for after thier SP years.
Some of these ladies are smarter than they let on. Others party away profits.
It’s thier choice.
Best investment is to invest in yourself and get an education. Preferably something that includes a license and some barriers to entry. I have seen some very good outcomes using this pathway. There are many older students today who do not complete a degree or license in the normal time. Successful people ignore usual barriers and reinvent themselves on their own schedule.
It is always wise to work in a business first for somebody else before investing in it. Make your mistakes on their dime and see if you really like it. The best job or business is one you can be obsessed with. Also, try to put a roof over your head. Take pressure off your cost of living. This is no small task in a city like Toronto.
Try to hit singles, doubles, and triples. Don't bet everything on hitting home runs and swinging for the fences.
It is always wise to work in a business first for somebody else before investing in it. Make your mistakes on their dime and see if you really like it. The best job or business is one you can be obsessed with. Also, try to put a roof over your head. Take pressure off your cost of living. This is no small task in a city like Toronto.
Try to hit singles, doubles, and triples. Don't bet everything on hitting home runs and swinging for the fences.
I knew guy few years ago that met this girl that was out of this world... a total 10 of 10. Completely out of his league. They rushed to marry. Everything was great until she got her permanent residency for Canada a year later.
The next year they split and she tried to take half of he had (his net worth was 20mill). He said something about her having a hidden boyfriend and her being a crazy whore. He funneled his money out of Canada and resettled in Panama.
Thinking back I wouldn't be surprised if she was an SP or stripper. She was from Bulgaria.
The next year they split and she tried to take half of he had (his net worth was 20mill). He said something about her having a hidden boyfriend and her being a crazy whore. He funneled his money out of Canada and resettled in Panama.
Thinking back I wouldn't be surprised if she was an SP or stripper. She was from Bulgaria.
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OnTheWayOut
I know an Asian SP who opened her own spa and is doing quite well. I know she saved money but think she had a benefactor as well. She has stopped offering extras, although some of her girls do from time to time. She is making it on facials, nails, etc as well as legit massage.
I also know an SP who is fairly new to Canada who is actively looking for a husband so she can stay here. I think she was lured here to work as SP being told she would get a husband and could stay. One of her associates had this exact thing happen so the mamasan is using this to entice others to come here and work for her. Seems to be plenty of willing girls to take her up on the offer.
Not a new concept at all, I've known many who have gone this route (going rate seems to be $50K) although it is not always a success. 2 well known SP I knew paid $50K each to marry guys in an attempt to stay here and they both got their Immigration denied and were deported. Not only had they paid for marriage, they both had built up quite a tidy nest egg. All while charging only $80/hh .... amazing!
I know of another SP who is currently offering $50K to marry her, she is young and hot so I am puzzled why it is taking her so long to find someone. To me it is a conundrum that some will do almost anything to stay here, yet others send tons of money back to their relatives and cannot wait to go back home. To each their own ..... I always wish them well and hope they find whatever they desire.
I also know an SP who is fairly new to Canada who is actively looking for a husband so she can stay here. I think she was lured here to work as SP being told she would get a husband and could stay. One of her associates had this exact thing happen so the mamasan is using this to entice others to come here and work for her. Seems to be plenty of willing girls to take her up on the offer.
Not a new concept at all, I've known many who have gone this route (going rate seems to be $50K) although it is not always a success. 2 well known SP I knew paid $50K each to marry guys in an attempt to stay here and they both got their Immigration denied and were deported. Not only had they paid for marriage, they both had built up quite a tidy nest egg. All while charging only $80/hh .... amazing!
I know of another SP who is currently offering $50K to marry her, she is young and hot so I am puzzled why it is taking her so long to find someone. To me it is a conundrum that some will do almost anything to stay here, yet others send tons of money back to their relatives and cannot wait to go back home. To each their own ..... I always wish them well and hope they find whatever they desire.
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OnTheWayOut
In the situation that I knew the girls well, they did not want a relationship, just the marriage certificate and pictures to show immigration to try to make it look like it was a legit marriage. They wanted to go on working ......
From all this I get that a man has a very desireable quality for women. A marriage certificate. Like landing on a pot of gold.
Interesting observation...
Yet, if someone wants to marry young Asian woman, marrying SP maybe attractive option but not the only one.
I did an experiment. I created very average, very basic account of 57 yo guy from Toronto on AsiaCharm.com website. In one day (!) I received more than 400 messages from Asian women in age range from 22 to 63. Many of them are really beautiful, university educated, speak English. And I got impression some of them would marry me without even personal meeting LOL.
I deleted my account on the second day.
I stay off those sites. I've had women ask me for money, food etc... I just stick to locals now.Interesting observation...
Yet, if someone wants to marry young Asian woman, marrying SP maybe attractive option but not the only one.
I did an experiment. I created very average, very basic account of 57 yo guy from Toronto on AsiaCharm.com website. In one day (!) I received more than 400 messages from Asian women in age range from 22 to 63. Many of them are really beautiful, university educated, speak English. And I got impression some of them would marry me without even personal meeting LOL.
I deleted my account on the second day.
First, the pictures are likely very photo-shopped, and other claims such as fluency in English, tend to be greatly exaggerated.Interesting observation...
Yet, if someone wants to marry young Asian woman, marrying SP maybe attractive option but not the only one.
I did an experiment. I created very average, very basic account of 57 yo guy from Toronto on AsiaCharm.com website. In one day (!) I received more than 400 messages from Asian women in age range from 22 to 63. Many of them are really beautiful, university educated, speak English. And I got impression some of them would marry me without even personal meeting LOL.
I deleted my account on the second day.
But it is true, there are loads of women in China who's only hope of marriage is with a foreigner.
If a woman in China is not married by the time she's 27, then she becomes one of the lost women. There are millions more guys in China than women, but the former will not marry women older than they are, and women will stay away from guys who are less wealthy than they are.
Many marriages are still arranged over there, especially if the woman is approaching 27 years. But there are lots of women who have missed the boat because of their career, such as university educated professionals and bureaucrats or business women. Beijing is full of them. Their only recourse is the dating agencies. Most single men over there want a woman younger than he, especially under 28 and not financially independent (richer than he is).
Then there are the loads of divorced women. Once divorced, especially with a kid, she is usually completely shut out of the market. But they know that that's not such a big deal with foreigners. The divorces come about as a consequence of loveless arranged marriages.
Chinese women tend to keep their shape and looks longer than western women. They tend to be more feminine, and in my humble opinion, tend to be more balanced psychologically, and raised in a more traditional manner. They like Westeners better because we don't usually treat them like shit, while white guys like the traditional attention. I know of white boy/chinese girl marriages that are bliss.
The downside is the culture: the food is very different and it takes a lot of adjusting; the house is going to look very Chinese. Then there are the in-laws, who will practically try to move in. In China, loyalty to parents is more important than loyalty to spouse. Language is usually a problem, and fluency in English is usually greatly exaggerated; however now, they can talk into their smartphones and get an instantaneous voice translation.
But it shouldn't be too difficult to find women who are smart, friendly, and attractive. Many who advertise want to get out of a rut, and are not that selective about prospective western partners.
A successful sex trade worker has a couple of advantages not usually available to the average woman (or man).
1) She can make more money in less time.
2) She can usually work her own hours.
A dancer I know (but it has been a few years since I last saw her) used this formula to get a 2 year college degree in interior decorating and is now making north of $100,000 a year.
1) She can make more money in less time.
2) She can usually work her own hours.
A dancer I know (but it has been a few years since I last saw her) used this formula to get a 2 year college degree in interior decorating and is now making north of $100,000 a year.
I used to know one who took every client for any price. didn't matter. Just adding to her savings. No point in sitting around staring out the window. Time is money. She retired early 40s and is back in Hong Kong owning 5 rental properties and a shit load of cash. She made herself into a millionaire. I know another one, who along with many sp's spends every dollar and every spare minute losing at the casino. That is sad shit.
It's different for everyone, I suppose. I've gotten close with three industry girls over my time of hobbying, and while all three had the same start, they had wildly different conclusions. All three wanted to study and make something of themselves.
One was Hungarian and wanted to be a professional interior designer. She went to school for something similar, but dropped out. She ended up back in the industry for a bit here in Toronto, then moved to Florida. Last I knew she was working as a waitress at a Ponderosa.
The second was Vietnamese and wanted to be a doctor. She was a sharp one. Smart with her money. She knew exactly why she was in the industry and what she wanted out of it. She's currently in her residency. We keep in touch, but no favours on the side.
The third, she was a Romanian lady. Hot as hell, too! She went to school, but didn't finish. Eventually got her Canadian citizenship. She wanted to be a model, but didn't have the discipline for it. In fact, she floated many ideas of what she wanted to be when I knew her, and started down the path to many, but never very far. She blew all her industry money almost as soon as she'd earned it. When she reached her mid-30s she panicked and married some rich guy she met through the industry. I'm not sure what became of her because her new husband forbade her from talking to me. lol
One sad tale, one happy tale, and one that's too hard to tell.
One was Hungarian and wanted to be a professional interior designer. She went to school for something similar, but dropped out. She ended up back in the industry for a bit here in Toronto, then moved to Florida. Last I knew she was working as a waitress at a Ponderosa.
The second was Vietnamese and wanted to be a doctor. She was a sharp one. Smart with her money. She knew exactly why she was in the industry and what she wanted out of it. She's currently in her residency. We keep in touch, but no favours on the side.
The third, she was a Romanian lady. Hot as hell, too! She went to school, but didn't finish. Eventually got her Canadian citizenship. She wanted to be a model, but didn't have the discipline for it. In fact, she floated many ideas of what she wanted to be when I knew her, and started down the path to many, but never very far. She blew all her industry money almost as soon as she'd earned it. When she reached her mid-30s she panicked and married some rich guy she met through the industry. I'm not sure what became of her because her new husband forbade her from talking to me. lol
One sad tale, one happy tale, and one that's too hard to tell.
hahah
Facials eh? Which spa is this?
(and you totally walked off that cliff noone pushed you)
Many save what they can and then move back home where the cost of living is much less.
