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What Bruce Ohr Told the FBI

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What Bruce Ohr Told the FBI
The Justice Department official’s testimony raises new doubts about the bureau’s honesty.

Fox News and Hannity are using this story as a cause for concern with regards to the "Deep State":

What Bruce Ohr Told the FBI
The Justice Department official’s testimony raises new doubts about the bureau’s honesty.

Everybody knew. Everybody of consequence at the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Justice Department understood fully in the middle of 2016—as the FBI embarked on its counterintelligence probe of Donald Trump—that it was doing so based on disinformation provided by Hillary Clinton’s campaign. That’s the big revelation from the transcript of the testimony Justice Department official Bruce Ohr gave Congress in August. The transcripts haven’t been released, but parts were confirmed for me by congressional sources.

Mr. Ohr testified that he sat down with dossier author Christopher Steele on July 30, 2016, and received salacious information the opposition researcher had compiled on Mr. Trump. Mr. Ohr immediately took that to the FBI’s then-Deputy Director Andy McCabe and lawyer Lisa Page. In August he took it to Peter Strzok, the bureau’s lead investigator. In the same month, Mr. Ohr believes, he briefed senior personnel in the Justice Department’s criminal division: Deputy Assistant Attorney General Bruce Swartz, lawyer Zainab Ahmad and fraud unit head Andrew Weissman. The last two now work for special counsel Robert Mueller.

More important, Mr. Ohr told this team the information came from the Clinton camp and warned that it was likely biased, certainly unproven. “When I provided [the Steele information] to the FBI, I tried to be clear that this is source information,” he testified. “I don’t know how reliable it is. You’re going to have to check it out and be aware. These guys were hired by somebody relating to—who’s related to the Clinton campaign, and be aware.”

He said he told them that Mr. Steele was “desperate that Donald Trump not get elected,” and that his own wife, Nellie Ohr, worked for Fusion GPS, which compiled the dossier. He confirmed sounding all these warnings before the FBI filed its October application for a surveillance warrant against Carter Page. We broke some of this in August, though the transcript provides new detail.

The FBI and Justice Department have gone to extraordinary lengths to muddy these details, with cover from Democrats and friendly journalists. A January 2017 memo from Adam Schiff, the House Intelligence Committee’s top Democrat, flatly (and incorrectly) insisted “the FBI’s closely-held investigative team only received Steele’s reporting in mid-September.” A May 2018 New York Times report repeated that claim, saying Mr. Steele’s reports didn’t reach the “Crossfire Hurricane team,” which ran the counterintelligence investigation, until “mid-September.”

This line was essential for upholding the claim that the dossier played no role in the unprecedented July 31, 2016, decision to investigate a presidential campaign. Former officials have insisted they rushed to take this dramatic step on the basis of a conversation involving a low-level campaign aide, George Papadopoulos, which took place in May, before the dossier officially came into the picture. And maybe that is the case. Yet now Mr. Ohr has testified that top personnel had dossier details around the time they opened the probe.

The Ohr testimony is also further evidence that the FBI misled the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court in its Page warrant application. We already knew the bureau failed to inform the court it knew the dossier had come from a rival campaign. But the FISA application additionally claimed the FBI was “unaware of any derogatory information pertaining” to Mr. Steele, that he was “reliable,” that his “reporting” in this case was “credible.” and that the FBI only “speculates” that Mr. Steele’s bosses “likely” wanted to “discredit” Mr. Trump.

Speculates? Likely? Mr. Ohr makes clear FBI and Justice officials knew from the earliest days that Mr. Steele was working for the Clinton campaign, which had an obvious desire to discredit Mr. Trump. And Mr. Ohr specifically told investigators that they had every reason to worry Mr. Steele’s work product was tainted.

This testimony has two other implications. First, it further demonstrates the accuracy of the House Intelligence Committee Republicans’ memo of 2018—which noted Mr. Ohr’s role and pointed out that the FBI had not been honest about its knowledge of the dossier and failed to inform the court of Mrs. Ohr’s employment at Fusion GPS. The testimony also destroys any remaining credibility of the Democratic response, in which Mr. Schiff and his colleagues claimed Mr. Ohr hadn’t met with the FBI or told them anything about his wife or about Mr. Steele’s bias until after the election.

Second, the testimony raises new concerns about Mr. Mueller’s team. Critics have noted Mr. Weissman’s donations to Mrs. Clinton and his unseemly support of former acting Attorney General Sally Yates’s obstruction of Trump orders. It now turns out that senior Mueller players were central to the dossier scandal. The conflicts of interest boggle the mind.

The Ohr testimony is evidence the FBI itself knows how seriously it erred. The FBI has been hiding and twisting facts from the start.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-bruce-ohr-told-the-fbi-11547770923

Hannity was touting this story for a couple of days without any mention about the Buzzfeed story until today after Mueller's statement about its inaccuracy. But here he expects a "HUGE" investigation once Barr is nominated as the Attorney General.
 

Butler1000

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Something which I spoke of months ago.

Ohr is a weasel. Add a bit more pressure and he will crack.
 

Frankfooter

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Its in the FISA application that the dossier came from partisan sources, that's old news.

The FBI investigated Trump because of Trump's own actions.
Blame him and his acts.
 

Butler1000

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Its in the FISA application that the dossier came from partisan sources, that's old news.

The FBI investigated Trump because of Trump's own actions.
Blame him and his acts.
Old unprosecuted news. But it will come out in the end.
 

Butler1000

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So what exactly do you think Ohr did that was wrong?
He was conduit for false information and touted it as a means to get a FISA Warrant.

He used his position to use the DOJ as a political tool. For money. Paid to his wife at Fusion.

If you can't see the straight line here you are being willfully blind.
 

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https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/4...vide-most-damning-evidence-of-fisa-abuses-yet

We now know the FBI used an article from Yahoo News as independent corroboration for the Steele dossier when, in fact, Steele had talked to the news outlet.

If the FBI knew Steele had that media contact before it submitted the article, it likely would be guilty of circular intelligence reporting, a forbidden tactic in which two pieces of evidence are portrayed as independent corroboration when, in fact, they originated from the same source.


I'm not sure what will happen with Ohr but this looks pretty damning to the FBI and DOJ execs. They should be worried.
 

Frankfooter

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He was conduit for false information and touted it as a means to get a FISA Warrant.
Nope.
The Trump Piss Dossier has been shown to not be false information, the only elements confirmed have shown it to be accurate.
There are lots that has yet to be confirmed or shown false, but so far it stands up very well.

On top of that, the original FISA application stated that the Piss Dossier came from partisan sources.

Two years later, many of the dossier's claim remain uncorroborated. But several allegations have proven, at least in part, to have held up over time.
https://www.businessinsider.com/steele-dossier-allegations-trump-russia-mueller-investigation-2019-1
 

Butler1000

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Nope.
The Trump Piss Dossier has been shown to not be false information, the only elements confirmed have shown it to be accurate.
There are lots that has yet to be confirmed or shown false, but so far it stands up very well.

On top of that, the original FISA application stated that the Piss Dossier came from partisan sources.


https://www.businessinsider.com/steele-dossier-allegations-trump-russia-mueller-investigation-2019-1
Yup. Because most of it is uncorroberated that makes it a bad source for a FISA warrant. Especially against a presidential candidate.

And if it is true they knew it was a partisan work, that makes it even more criminal.
 

Frankfooter

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Yup. Because most of it is uncorroberated that makes it a bad source for a FISA warrant. Especially against a presidential candidate.

And if it is true they knew it was a partisan work, that makes it even more criminal.
It was partisan funded, remember, the republicans funded the Trump Piss Dossier first.
Good thing the FBI let FISA know that for the applications to monitor those suspected Russian assets, Carter Page, Manafort and eventually Trump.
 

K Douglas

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It was partisan funded, remember, the republicans funded the Trump Piss Dossier first.
Good thing the FBI let FISA know that for the applications to monitor those suspected Russian assets, Carter Page, Manafort and eventually Trump.
No they did not. It was mostly funded by the Clinton campaign. Get your facts straight.
 

Butler1000

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Butler1000

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So what, they were the republican donors who funded the Trump Piss Dossier initially.
No, they started to funded some opposition research. It was only when the Dems took over that Steele was brought in.

What happened was initially they didn't find anything of worth. So they brought in an expert to assist in MANUFACTURING IT.
 

K Douglas

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azeri99

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No, they started to funded some opposition research. /QUOTE]

Right, nothing wrong with opposition research, right?

Isn't that what you said about Trump jr's Trump tower meeting with the Russians?
Well you can't have it both ways the research was provided by foreign countries in both cases, it's either right or wrong in both cases, you can't pick and choose based on what side you are on.
 

Frankfooter

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Well you can't have it both ways the research was provided by foreign countries in both cases, it's either right or wrong in both cases, you can't pick and choose based on what side you are on.
Trump tried to make a deal with Putin to get dirt on Clinton.
That's very different from hiring a Washington based company to continue the republican funded opposition research they started, isn't it?
 

azeri99

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Trump tried to make a deal with Putin to get dirt on Clinton.
That's very different from hiring a Washington based company to continue the republican funded opposition research they started, isn't it?
How do you know he made a deal with Putin to get dirt on Clinton? The information provided in the dossier was from a former British agent, Christopher Steele, either it's right or it's wrong to get information from a foreign source , It doesn't matter who funded it.
 
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