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Barr to Congress: Telling a witness to lie is a crime. Trump told a witness to lie

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Here is what William Barr, Trump's choice for AG wrote in June:

Obviously, the President and any other official can commit obstruction in this classic sense of sabotaging a proceeding’s truth-finding function. Thus, for example, if a President knowingly destroys or alters evidence, suborns perjury, or induces a witness to change testimony, or commits any act deliberately impairing the integrity or availability of evidence, then he, like anyone else, commits the crime of obstruction. Indeed, the acts of obstruction alleged against Presidents Nixon and Clinton in their respective impeachments were all such “bad acts” involving the impairment of evidence. Enforcing these laws against the President in no way infringes on the President’s plenary power over law enforcement because exercising this discretion - such as his complete authority to start or stop a law enforcement proceeding -- does not involve commission of any of these inherently wrongful, subversive acts.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...ney-general-trump-cohen-lie-congress-buzzfeed


According to the new reports about Cohen lying to congress under Trump's order, Barr would have to press charges of obstruction against Trump for suborning perjury.
 

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That's rich. This is the same Judge that hid the Iran Contra scandal and protected FBI snipers at Ruby Ridge. America and the West has become far too corrupted to be saved. Our leaders behave like children an will sell their souls and their countries for a buck. And our electorate are too misinformed and ill educated to be able to think clearly and critically. Put a fork in it. We're done.
 

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That's rich. This is the same Judge that hid the Iran Contra scandal and protected FBI snipers at Ruby Ridge. America and the West has become far too corrupted to be saved. Our leaders behave like children an will sell their souls and their countries for a buck. And our electorate are too misinformed and ill educated to be able to think clearly and critically. Put a fork in it. We're done.
That's right, the only judge who pushes for more presidential power and the best choice Trump could find to get him a Saturday Night Massacre.
 

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Butler1000

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Man, you just get it so wrong, so often. How do you look at yourself?
 

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Man, you just get it so wrong, so often. How do you look at yourself?
This is not fully water under the bridge. Cohen could have been instructed to do so not by Trump personally, but possibly by Trump's team. We will have to wait and see as Cohen's lawyer has not confirmed or denied the statement like, he did for that Cohen's Prague trip.
 

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This is not fully water under the bridge. Cohen could have been instructed to do so not by Trump personally, but possibly by Trump's team. We will have to wait and see as Cohen's lawyer has not confirmed or denied the statement like, he did for that Cohen's Prague trip.
Cohen only took orders from Trump.

Seriously this is BuzzFeed. And the sources apparently are "law enforcement" but not the named Mueller people.

Considering the lack of leaks from them and the statement this is a fake. I even watched the ex Attorney of New York Southern District who Trump Fired defend Trump on CNN.

How much more is needed?
 

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Cohen only took orders from Trump.

Seriously this is BuzzFeed.
You seriously think Cohen would try to make a deal for a Russian Trump Tower all on his lonesome?
That's so idiotic, you have to be a total Trumptard to back that one.
Buzzfeed has already released texts and docs showing that the deal was real and happening while Trump was publicly lying about his business interests.


Cohen is publicly refusing to confirm or deny this story, so the question now is what details in the story aren't accurate?
 

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You seriously think Cohen would try to make a deal for a Russian Trump Tower all on his lonesome?
That's so idiotic, you have to be a total Trumptard to back that one.
Buzzfeed has already released texts and docs showing that the deal was real and happening while Trump was publicly lying about his business interests.


Cohen is publicly refusing to confirm or deny this story, so the question now is what details in the story aren't accurate?
That's not the point. The point is did Trump tell him to lie? According to Mueller no.

End of story.
 

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That's not the point. The point is did Trump tell him to lie? According to Mueller no.

End of story.
Your story is that Cohen lied about Trump's business in Russia to congress totally on his own account, and Trump would have asked him to tell the truth?
 

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Your story is that Cohen lied about Trump's business in Russia to congress totally on his own account, and Trump would have asked him to tell the truth?
It's not a story. Cohen was trying to either CYA or pull a fast one. He lost.

The story is false. Cohen may well have not said anything about this. You keep assuming things are true.

You keep assuming that Trump's subordinates didn't have their own agenda. Flynn did, Manafort did. Cohen was charged with his own illegal side gigs.

Was Cohen taking money on the side from Russia too? To gain access to Trump? Who knows at this point.

But we do know Mueller has rebuked this story. If you deny that you impinge his credibility.
 

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Cohen only took orders from Trump.

Seriously this is BuzzFeed. And the sources apparently are "law enforcement" but not the named Mueller people.

Considering the lack of leaks from them and the statement this is a fake. I even watched the ex Attorney of New York Southern District who Trump Fired defend Trump on CNN.

How much more is needed?
Inaccurate, does not mean fake. Why would Buzzfeed's Pulitzer Prize winner still stand by his story if it was proven to be Fake? Also, why would Cohen's lawyer not categorically state that it was fake, just like he did for Cohen's trip to Prague? This is what matters for now. Attorney's will always state an individual's innocence unless proven guilty. We already heard about "Individual 1" being proven guilty in the hush money case although that Individual 1 lied about it from Day 1 and was defended by numerous attorneys prior to it. That is why I have stated that Cohen will definitely be posed this question. Maybe Buzzfeed jumped the gun on this one, and revealed what Cohen intended to disclose during his question period in Congress.
 

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You keep assuming that Trump's subordinates didn't have their own agenda. Flynn did, Manafort did. Cohen was charged with his own illegal side gigs.

Was Cohen taking money on the side from Russia too? To gain access to Trump? Who knows at this point.
What, so now your story is that Cohen, like Manafort, might have been a paid Russian asset trying to influence Trump on Russia's behalf?
Your excuse is worse then the accusation.
You really think Trump's team were all Russian assets now?
That's some defence!
 

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What, so now your story is that Cohen, like Manafort, might have been a paid Russian asset trying to influence Trump on Russia's behalf?
Your excuse is worse then the accusation.
You really think Trump's team were all Russian assets now?
That's some defence!
Nope. The truth is BuzzFeed published a fake story. And you believed it.

You trusted a fake news source.
 

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Nope. The truth is BuzzFeed published a fake story. And you believed it.
Aspects were 'not accurate'. That's all, its not fake.

Was Cohen taking money on the side from Russia too? To gain access to Trump? Who knows at this point.
This was your latest theory, that Cohen was a Russian asset like Manafort.
Are you backing away from this claim?
 

Butler1000

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Aspects were 'not accurate'. That's all, its not fake.



This was your latest theory, that Cohen was a Russian asset like Manafort.
Are you backing away from this claim?
Lol. You actually thing I'm going to continue with your little fantasies now?

Mueller has shut this down. The press is running. They are smart enough to know when you quit.

Like I said. THEY ARE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW....
 
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