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US Government Pays Out Over $4 Billion for Vaccine Injuries and Deaths

Fathammer

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That’s just inane. Nothing is 100% safe. People can have life-threatening allergic reactions to corn flakes. Doesn’t mean everyone should stop eating corn flakes.
Yea but, nobody has life threatening allergies to vitamin C. Nor can you over dose and die from it either. See the difference?

Where do you people think disease comes from? The air? Just magically shows up?

It comes from unhealthy people who develope a sickness because their DNA isnt getting enough of the good stuff which hence turns into disease and spread through mucus or sweat to people with similar weakened immune systems.

Keeping yourself healthy prevents you from not being able to fight the disease off. Polio, syphilis, measels are forms of reaction in a non healthy human body. Thats why in a doctors office full of sick people, only some people might get infected with a cold. Those with stronger immune systems wont.

I havent been sick for 5 years with anything and all I do is make sure im eating healthy. Now, how did that happen????
 

Fathammer

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No, vitamins and minerals are obviously essentially for good health. As is fibre and other nutrients in fruits and vegetables.

-- You just proved me correct.


Still won’t cure syphilis. Are you really so stubborn that you won’t just admit you’d take antibiotics to prevent a slow, painful descent into madness and eventually death? Is this really the hill you want to die on?


I can only get it if the person that has it infects me. I cant get syphilis any other way. Its an unnecessary risk im taking through sex. Nothing more.

Do you take a syphilis vaccine so you dont get it?
 

Frankfooter

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I havent been sick for 5 years with anything and all I do is make sure im eating healthy. Now, how did that happen????
I dunno, maybe people avoid you due to your kooky ideas about western medicine.

Thanks to fools like you, measles have made a return.
Polio will be next.
After that, are you planning on aiding the return of smallpox, which you can stave off with your mouldy bread and good eating?
 

Grimnul

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Too much vitamin C can absolutely make you sick. Other vitamins and minerals can be fatal if you take too much. Diseases come from viruses and bacteria. Having a strong immune system can help fight off infection. It’s not 100%, though. You can still get infected. Your argument is basically that you can 100% avoid getting sick and heal any disease just by eating right? Maybe go to Africa and tell people dying of AIDS, or Malaria, or Ebola that. See what they think.

You still haven’t answered my question. You have syphilis. How do you treat it?

And no, I do not have a syphilis vaccine. If I get it, I can, however, go to the doctor and take medicine that is proven reliable in curing it.
 

Fathammer

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I dunno, maybe people avoid you due to your kooky ideas about western medicine.

Thanks to fools like you, measles have made a return.
Polio will be next.
After that, are you planning on aiding the return of smallpox, which you can stave off with your mouldy bread and good eating?
Not really.

The return of disease is from illegal refugees coming in sick and spreading to us.

If we have been vaccinated against these diseases, how are they coming back in Canada?
 

Frankfooter

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Not really.

The return of disease is from illegal refugees coming in sick and spreading to us.

If we have been vaccinated against these diseases, how are they coming back in Canada?
You need 95% vaccination rates for it to be effective in a population.
Before the measles vaccine existed, 9 out of every 10 kids got the disease before age 15. Two million people died from it every year. It’s easy for most of us to forget that, because we’ve had an effective measles vaccine since 1960.
https://www.popsci.com/measles-vaccination-rates-outbreak#page-2




We've been told that seat belts are mandatory, the government forces you to wear one so that we all don't have to pay your health care when you go through the windshield.
Vaccines are the same.
Stop putting everyone you know at risk.
 

oldjones

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I dunno, maybe people avoid you due to your kooky ideas about western medicine.

Thanks to fools like you, measles have made a return.
Polio will be next.
After that, are you planning on aiding the return of smallpox, which you can stave off with your mouldy bread and good eating?
You left out herd immunity.

Living among a basically healthy population of well-fed, well-monitored and well-treated and medicated (which includes well-vaccinated) folks where even a handful of disease cases provokes alarm and public health reaction makes it unlikely that he'll encounter dangerous bacteria or viruses to begin with. Not to mention it's impossible to isolate Fat's so-called healthy eating as a significant 'cause' of his disease-free claim. There are simply too many other possible factors, not the least of which would be the strong likelihood he's as careful about hygiene as about diet.

Of course he should keep up both, but their effectiveness is no argument for anyone not to get vaccinated against serious diseases still endemic in the population.
 

Fathammer

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Too much vitamin C can absolutely make you sick. Other vitamins and minerals can be fatal if you take too much. Diseases come from viruses and bacteria. Having a strong immune system can help fight off infection. It’s not 100%, though. You can still get infected. Your argument is basically that you can 100% avoid getting sick and heal any disease just by eating right? Maybe go to Africa and tell people dying of AIDS, or Malaria, or Ebola that. See what they think.

You still haven’t answered my question. You have syphilis. How do you treat it?

And no, I do not have a syphilis vaccine. If I get it, I can, however, go to the doctor and take medicine that is proven reliable in curing it.
Can you please provide a link to your claim of too much Vitamin C making you sick? Too much vit.C usually gives you bloating or diarrhea or pissed out. So your claim is 100% wrong.

How can I talk to someone about something as serious as syphilis if they contradict themselves about eating healthy and give wrong stats?

Ok, If I were to get syphilis, I would take meds ONLY because its more convenient and I kinda dont want it lingering in my too long untreated. But, also, I make sure im clean and healthy and dont spread anyting around either. How do I stay clean and healthy? I watch what I put in my body. I wouldnt catch syphilis unless I was around an unhealthy person unprotected.
There is no vaccine to make we never get it either so maybe our debate just hit a brick wall?
 

Fathammer

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We've been told that seat belts are mandatory, the government forces you to wear one so that we all don't have to pay your health care when you go through the windshield.
Vaccines are the same.
Stop putting everyone you know at risk.
So, should people stop playing sports or ride their motorcycle with just a turban on?

Why should I inject something into my body that I probably would NEVER come into contact with? Even if I did, its not necessarily a death sentence.

My immune system is strong enough to fight of a cold or flu. I dont need man made medicine to replace my immune system. Maybe thats why we have such high cancer numbers?
 

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So, should people stop playing sports or ride their motorcycle with just a turban on?

Why should I inject something into my body that I probably would NEVER come into contact with? Even if I did, its not necessarily a death sentence.

My immune system is strong enough to fight of a cold or flu. I dont need man made medicine to replace my immune system. Maybe thats why we have such high cancer numbers?
I admire the patience of the gentlemen trying to have a respectful discussion with you, yet at the same time shake my head that they cannot recognize that that is impossible because they are dealing with your infantile intellect.

Seriously, find somewhere else to spread your germ-laden rubbish. You are an embarrassment. You know nothing and understand even less.

You are a troll and your posts should be ignored if not totally banned.
 

Grimnul

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I admire the patience of the gentlemen trying to have a respectful discussion with you, yet at the same time shake my head that they cannot recognize that that is impossible because they are dealing with your infantile intellect.

Seriously, find somewhere else to spread your germ-laden rubbish. You are an embarrassment. You know nothing and understand even less.

You are a troll and your posts should be ignored if not totally banned.
Man, I’m trying my best not to start insulting the guy, because that’s not productive, but he sure as hell isnt making it easy for me.

In any case, I’m done. You can’t talk to these conspiracy types because no matter how much evidence you give them, it will just be dismissed as “fake news”. So I’m out.
 

Frankfooter

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Man, I’m trying my best not to start insulting the guy, because that’s not productive, but he sure as hell isnt making it easy for me.

In any case, I’m done. You can’t talk to these conspiracy types because no matter how much evidence you give them, it will just be dismissed as “fake news”. So I’m out.
We really do need to send them all to freedumb island.
 

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So, should people stop playing sports or ride their motorcycle with just a turban on?

Why should I inject something into my body that I probably would NEVER come into contact with? Even if I did, its not necessarily a death sentence.

My immune system is strong enough to fight of a cold or flu. I dont need man made medicine to replace my immune system. Maybe thats why we have such high cancer numbers?
Facts & Figures 2018: Rate of Deaths From Cancer Continues Decline

https://www.cancer.org/latest-news/...-of-deaths-from-cancer-continues-decline.html

The death rate from cancer in the US has declined steadily over the past 2 decades, according to annual statistics reporting from the American Cancer Society. As of 2015, the cancer death rate for men and women combined had fallen 26% from its peak in 1991. This decline translates to nearly 2.4 million deaths averted during this time period.

During the most recent decade of available data, the rate of new cancer diagnoses decreased by about 2% per year in men and stayed about the same in women.
 

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Why should I inject something into my body that I probably would NEVER come into contact with? ...
So you must support welfare too since the only reason you won't come in contact with it is the rest of our society is carrying you.
 

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Yes plus stop getting vaccinated and vaccinating your kids; too many people on this planet. A good epidemic is needed to cull the weak, poor, gullible and stupid.
 

Fathammer

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I admire the patience of the gentlemen trying to have a respectful discussion with you, yet at the same time shake my head that they cannot recognize that that is impossible because they are dealing with your infantile intellect.

Seriously, find somewhere else to spread your germ-laden rubbish. You are an embarrassment. You know nothing and understand even less.

You are a troll and your posts should be ignored if not totally banned.
Listen you simple minded zombie, why is my opinion wrong and yours correct?

You have no proof to back up anything you say. Because some fucking mindless jiberish from the masses HAS to be correct, that means im fucking wrong????

Your response is typical of any left wing mommy basement dweller that has NO clue on what this world is about!

Get off the kool-aid, do your own UNBIASED research,not just what your GOVT wants you to believe and open your eyes!

You have absolutely NOTHING to argue in this thread and you call me a troll????? REALLY????

You come here and spout your mind like you own the fucking place, demand dialogue you have no business in to stop and call me out????? This is YOUR democracy???? I have every right to defend my belief! ou cant handle it? Go cry to mommy!

In the future, PLEASE stay the fuck out of my debates unless you have something of value to add!

Bet you're also one of the butt hurt people that are VERY upset Wynne lost and there is no Provincial Liberal status any more? Maybe you would also like some more free loading border jumpers at your home as well because its the right thing to do??? Pffft!
 

Fathammer

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Facts & Figures 2018: Rate of Deaths From Cancer Continues Decline

https://www.cancer.org/latest-news/...-of-deaths-from-cancer-continues-decline.html

The death rate from cancer in the US has declined steadily over the past 2 decades, according to annual statistics reporting from the American Cancer Society. As of 2015, the cancer death rate for men and women combined had fallen 26% from its peak in 1991. This decline translates to nearly 2.4 million deaths averted during this time period.

During the most recent decade of available data, the rate of new cancer diagnoses decreased by about 2% per year in men and stayed about the same in women.
Hmmm, nowhere does it state how many people are suffering with cancer? It only tells me 2.4 million deaths were avoided for the period. Are there 5 million? 10 million????? If there were 2.4 averted, that tells me MILLIONS more have got it.

If we are supposed to be a healthy society and educated on how to live well, why do soooooooo many people get it?????

See, your statement is perfect example of us getting only a portion of the story. Why wouldnt you wonder or ask about the TOTAL amount of people suffering with cancer? I would love to know how their calculations were made? Guess with only half the story, we will NEVER know?
 

shack

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Listen you simple minded zombie, why is my opinion wrong and yours correct?

You have no proof to back up anything you say. Because some fucking mindless jiberish from the masses HAS to be correct, that means im fucking wrong????

Your response is typical of any left wing mommy basement dweller that has NO clue on what this world is about!

Get off the kool-aid, do your own UNBIASED research,not just what your GOVT wants you to believe and open your eyes!

You have absolutely NOTHING to argue in this thread and you call me a troll????? REALLY????

You come here and spout your mind like you own the fucking place, demand dialogue you have no business in to stop and call me out????? This is YOUR democracy???? I have every right to defend my belief! ou cant handle it? Go cry to mommy!

In the future, PLEASE stay the fuck out of my debates unless you have something of value to add!

Bet you're also one of the butt hurt people that are VERY upset Wynne lost and there is no Provincial Liberal status any more? Maybe you would also like some more free loading border jumpers at your home as well because its the right thing to do??? Pffft!
your infantile intellect.
Thanks for reinforcing my point.

But you seem quite upset my child. Either calm down or you may need a time out.
 
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