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‘A very brave new Canadian’: Saudi woman who fled abusive family arrives in Tdot

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Gen Z, her idea of abuse was something like her daddy taking her cell phone away.
No this is different. She said, physical abuse to the point of bleeding, containment and other forms of abuse.

Here is the video talking about her beating...also look at her expression when the reporter asks about her family disowning her.

Although when she is asked about the violence at 0:41 her eyes glance to the up and right which could meaning deceit....at 2:03 she does look to the up left when she said she was prepared to end her life.

These are lying eyes, according to NLP theory. Conventional wisdom has it that when people talk, the direction of their eye movements reveals whether or not they're lying. A glance up and to the left supposedly means a person is telling the truth, whereas a glance to the upper right signals deceit.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/34068-eye-movements-lying.html
If you study her eyes as she speaks there are some patterns there. I am afraid to look further into this because I think I might not like what I see lol, although also kind of curious what a specialist on this subject would say. Maybe thats why she stopped doing interviews after her friends/supporters told her not to anymore and maybe because it subjects her to this micro psychoanalysis.

IDK I want to believe her and thats why I do, especially because I have a bias in support of Persian women. It is possible she is making and/or fabricating parts of her story. But she could have been killed when she tried to escape, which is dangerous in itself. Maybe this is a clever way to bring her family back at high risk.

 

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Here is the extended version of the interview.

Definitely worth the watch all the way through. Regardless if she is lying or nor, the threats against her are quite real. She is a strong and powerful woman despite being fully truthful or not. Reminds me why I like to hobby because every now and then you meet some of the baddest and toughest women in this world who have lived the life and put your experiences in check. I think this is why this story fascinates me so much.

 

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Regardless if she is lying or nor, the threats against her are quite real.

Outside Saudi Arabia there are many places in the world
where you would put your life at risk by openly attacking
some local despot. That despot could be a corrupted government
official, a militant, a religious authority or a tribal leader. Is
it our government's responsibility to take in an asylum seeker
without following through the standard screening procedure
provided that the seeker has demonstrated a character of strength
by deliberately provoking their oppressor and then ran away?
 

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No, not all. Officially, they should only be responsible for local matters to answer your question below based on my opinion.

However is it the ethical thing to do? IMO yes, even though it comes at an expense of others. My family followed the right procedure and we came here because of war so I know exactly how it feels for someone to bypass this system to get in. Now why is it the ethical thing? Because it has the power and potential to reach many people around the world and shed light on issues that many people just have no clue about and inspire a large number of people. I personally couldn't comprehend or just never had the need to truly think about how bad fundamentally it is for women in places such as saudi arabia until her story came through. Imagine how many more people this has reached that it actually matters. It has the power to connect and reach out to people to shed light on these truths but most importantly it has the power inspire people and give HOPE. Sometimes decisions are made that are beyond politics and based on human intuition and doing what feels right. Justin might of realized that her life was very close to end and any indecision wastes precious time and could have affected if she lives or not. If you look at all the videos on this there was a girl in exactly the same situation last year that got duct taped at a non saudi airport (can’t remember the country) and they took her back to saudi and she disappeared. Almost exactly the same sequence of events. Rahaf actually met a saudi representative in Thailand that took her and wanted to bring her back and somehow she managed to lock herself in an airport room until UNHCR arrived.

Are there innocent people dying all around the world?yes of course! Should Canada be doing more? They should be doing more internally IMO. However sometimes people do what feels right and go beyond these bullshit politics and step outside their responsibilities such as Justin did in his role as the PM with this example. He knew he could do it at minimal backlash and risk to his position and he choose to save a girls life. I think its simple as that. I think its foolish to think that people are 100% motivated by politics and base their decisions on this and their responsibilities as an official. When he moves on even retires he will always remember that he saved a life and was probably a spark to something much bigger and greater then politics. Just think about this a little bit. These direct actions that he was responsible for will matter more to him then the standard business he conducted while being PM. Even this situation can be exploited for political gain, I don't think he main motivation was political.




Outside Saudi Arabia there are many places in the world
where you would put your life at risk by openly attacking
some local despot. That despot could be a corrupted government
official, a militant, a religious authority or a tribal leader. Is
it our government's responsibility to take in an asylum seeker
without following through the standard screening procedure

provided that the seeker has demonstrated a character of strength
by deliberately provoking their oppressor and then ran away?
 

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I can see why this Rahaf Mohammed chick's queue-jumping
success could inspire other young women left behind in Saudi
to try their luck. Wonder how Trudeau and Freeland will respond
when more of these women feeling oppressed end up losing
more freedom or even their lives from failed runaway attempts. I suspect not many teenage girls in Saudi
have the money to fly business class to the west to
seek asylum.
 

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The Saudi Government is very sensitive to world optics now since Khashoggi was butchered in Turkey. They may wish to not see this lady harmed or at least have any association with anything bad happening to her. Saudi Arabia is undergoing their own cultural revolution and the ruling house of Saud is at war with itself.
 

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Unfortunately this has already happened after she arrived and as far as I can understand from following twitter and social media and they didn’t make it. I think this caused Rahaf to go into the underground and try to stay private.

As a result of this incident the Saudis will put measures in place to strengthen their system and prevent this from occurring again and making girls who tried a public example and harshening the punishment.

However I think the poison has already been injected by Rahafs actions and its spreading within causing dissension. Only time will tell if this was an ethical decision that benefited the greater number of people in the long run.

I can see why this Rahaf Mohammed chick's queue-jumping
success could inspire other young women left behind in Saudi
to try their luck. Wonder how Trudeau and Freeland will respond
when more of these women feeling oppressed end up losing
more freedom or even their lives from failed runaway attempts. I suspect not many teenage girls in Saudi
have the money to fly business class to the west to
seek asylum.
 

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The Saudi Government is very sensitive to world optics now since Khashoggi was butchered in Turkey. They may wish to not see this lady harmed or at least have any association with anything bad happening to her. Saudi Arabia is undergoing their own cultural revolution and the ruling house of Saud is at war with itself.
^^^ this, the dissension is real.
 

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Another example of how everyone is trying to get a piece of her and trying to exploit her to run their agenda even from people who identify as her and brainwash and impose their ideas using her as example...

 
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