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‘A very brave new Canadian’: Saudi woman who fled abusive family arrives in Tdot

Robert Mugabe

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If it was a Saudi boy waiting to be granted asylum
what would you guys say? I guess some would love
to sodomize him.
Odd that should be your first thought. Noting your handle sounds like a Carnak the Magnificent punch line....."what are two things you should expect when sodomizing a Saudi boy? Oil & gas":drum:
 

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I'm glad she is here.

Any Muslim who renounces Islam and it's barbaric teachings, is most welcome in my Canada.
 

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Anyone applying for immigration to Canada from
Muslim countries should be granted admission with
all requirements waived if they are willing to renounce
their religion.
 

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Smart girl... https://twitter.com/rahaf84427714/status/1085198785964236800

Probably her best strategy is to try and totally disappear on her terms. Change her name and stop posting publicly. Then when she gets settled, gains an understanding of systems, and gets some education, then come back if she wants to keep fighting for the women around the world. Right now any attempt could easily backfire. I would’t be surprised if a lot of women tried what she did because of her story but ended up being stopped and then just forcibly disappeared. Maybe she sees this as well and knows that the ethical thing to do now is just to stop and disappear on her terms by her choice and live a private life.
 

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That’s Justin 101. Optics is more important than anything. The refugee in the camp in Lebanon is invisible. This girl is high profile and gives Justin an opportunity for photo ops and backpats. The take away from all this is if you have a problem, be super vocal about it on social media, and Justin will help you.
There is a lot of truth to what you are saying. We can likely expect more cases like these in the coming year as a result. This girl was clever to manipulate social media to her advantage.
All the more power to her but Trudeau is creating a precedent by overriding the government's own refugee rules and sending Chrystia Freeland to personally greet her
upon arrival at Pearson airport. Great optics I must admit but is she at the airport everyday greeting would be asylum seekers?
 

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Anyone applying for immigration to Canada from
Muslim countries should be granted admission with
all requirements waived if they are willing to renounce
their religion.
The most common baby boys name for newborns in Toronto for the last two years was Muhammed or derivative. In Islam lying to an infidel is not a sin so those wishing to renounce as a means to enter Canada might only be paying lip service. Seriously though, Canada depends on immigration in many ways at this time.
 

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Saudi teen Rahaf Mohammed says she wants to live 'a normal, private life’ in Canada

Apparently She ran away not because she was abused.
She now says she "was not treated respectfully".

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Victoria Gibson
Jan 15, 2019

Rahaf Mohammed, the 18-year-old from Saudi Arabia whose efforts to flee to Canada as a refugee captured global attention this month, will be retreating from the public eye as she resettles, Ms. Mohammed confirmed in a public statement to throngs of reporters in Toronto on Tuesday.

“I would like to start living a normal, private life,” said the teenager – who has dropped her family name, al-Qunun, since her family has reportedly severed ties over social media. Ms. Mohammed has alleged abuse at the hands of her family members in Saudi Arabia but did not elaborate on those allegations in a statement delivered in Arabic, then repeated by an English translator.

She said instead that she was “not treated respectfully” by her family and denied the ability to make her own decisions. She would like to now live “like any other young woman” in Canada.

But the new reality for Ms. Mohammed is far from the anonymous integration of many asylum seekers and refugees to Canada. It comes at the end of a high-profile ordeal, which began when she fled her family during a visit to Kuwait earlier this month. She flew to Thailand, where she told officials she feared her family would kill her if she was returned to Saudi Arabia. Denied entry to Bangkok, Ms. Mohammed barricaded herself in an airport hotel room, taking to Twitter to appeal for help. From there, her plight gained global attention, and at the request of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, she was granted asylum to Canada, according to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Canada’s decision to grant the teen asylum has not yet drawn an official response from the Saudi government, whose relationship with Ottawa has been frayed since a diplomatic spat erupted in August.

Now, social media has become a minefield for the 18-year-old, who is faced with online threats.

“She has taken a position that some take issue with,” Mario Calla, executive director of the immigrant services agency COSTI, told reporters. Sometimes, Ms. Mohammed feels safe, he said. Other times, less so. She’s never left alone: a COSTI staff member is with her at all times. The agency hired a private security guard, who protects her current place of residence and was milling about the crowd on Tuesday morning. “Frankly, this happened so quickly, we hired the guards, and we will talk to the federal government,” Mr. Calla told reporters about the price tag on Ms. Mohammed’s security. “I’m sure they’ll cover it.” If not, he says the agency will foot the bill.

The organization has had to hire private security before, including when safety concerns arose in some of the hotel lodgings the government has arranged for refugees and asylum seekers, he said. He acknowledged that fears about security may be a long-term problem for Ms. Mohammed. COSTI staff are working to inform her about the risks she faces. Additionally, they’re considering setting her up with a family, so she doesn’t have to live alone in Canada. “She feels safe because she knows she’s in a safe country. She sees the people around her have her best interests at heart, they’re trying to help her,” Mr. Calla said.

Though Ms. Mohammed’s case played out quickly, it isn’t the only one of its kind. COSTI sees an average of two, and sometimes up to five, urgent protection cases per year, Mr. Calla said. The federal government will expedite situations where loss of time may mean “dire consequences,” he explained, offering domestic violence-related cases as an example.

The teen isn’t receiving any psychological support right now, but the agency plans to assess that need moving forward. Mr. Calla isn’t aware of any direct contact from Ms. Mohammed’s family, nor the Saudi Arabian embassy, and couldn’t confirm the authenticity of a family statement quoted by media outlets.

According to The Canadian Press, the head of Saudi Arabia’s state-controlled human rights commission was quoted in Saudi media on the weekend accusing Canada of meddling in the internal affairs of Mohammed’s family with the intent of vilifying Saudi Arabia. The Canadian Press quoted Mufleh Al-Qahtani, the head of the Saudi National Society for Human Rights, as saying Canada’s action was “an attack on the rights of the families of these girls, who are severely harmed by the defamation following their daughters’ action that pushes them into the unknown.”

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...mmed-says-she-wants-to-live-a-normal-private/
 

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Thats wrong. She always claimed that when she cut her hair she was locked up for 6 months and subjected to violence and threats of of being killed. https://www.cp24.com/news/saudi-teen-granted-asylum-in-canada-says-she-s-a-lucky-one-1.4253866 Turn to 1:00 min of that video and its all over her twitter. What you are reading below is her public statement that was translated on her twitter and is posted on post 85 above which is clearly now being taken out of context by the globe and mail. It was a general public statement for her wishes to be left alone. She did’t want to make it too long and didn’t want to make it negative.

So we either trust her or think this was all contrived to get her into Canada and then have her settle and bring her family back. We can speculate all we want and think the worst in people. IDK I still have faith in people despite countless people who keep taking advantage of good deeds and the system, I have faith in her. I believe her.

Apparently She ran away not because she was abused.
She now says she "was not treated respectfully".

---------------------------------------------------------------
Victoria Gibson
Jan 15, 2019

Rahaf Mohammed, the 18-year-old from Saudi Arabia whose efforts to flee to Canada as a refugee captured global attention this month, will be retreating from the public eye as she resettles, Ms. Mohammed confirmed in a public statement to throngs of reporters in Toronto on Tuesday.

“I would like to start living a normal, private life,” said the teenager – who has dropped her family name, al-Qunun, since her family has reportedly severed ties over social media. Ms. Mohammed has alleged abuse at the hands of her family members in Saudi Arabia but did not elaborate on those allegations in a statement delivered in Arabic, then repeated by an English translator.

She said instead that she was “not treated respectfully” by her family and denied the ability to make her own decisions. She would like to now live “like any other young woman” in Canada.

But the new reality for Ms. Mohammed is far from the anonymous integration of many asylum seekers and refugees to Canada. It comes at the end of a high-profile ordeal, which began when she fled her family during a visit to Kuwait earlier this month. She flew to Thailand, where she told officials she feared her family would kill her if she was returned to Saudi Arabia. Denied entry to Bangkok, Ms. Mohammed barricaded herself in an airport hotel room, taking to Twitter to appeal for help. From there, her plight gained global attention, and at the request of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, she was granted asylum to Canada, according to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. CanadaÂ’s decision to grant the teen asylum has not yet drawn an official response from the Saudi government, whose relationship with Ottawa has been frayed since a diplomatic spat erupted in August.

Now, social media has become a minefield for the 18-year-old, who is faced with online threats.

“She has taken a position that some take issue with,” Mario Calla, executive director of the immigrant services agency COSTI, told reporters. Sometimes, Ms. Mohammed feels safe, he said. Other times, less so. She’s never left alone: a COSTI staff member is with her at all times. The agency hired a private security guard, who protects her current place of residence and was milling about the crowd on Tuesday morning. “Frankly, this happened so quickly, we hired the guards, and we will talk to the federal government,” Mr. Calla told reporters about the price tag on Ms. Mohammed’s security. “I’m sure they’ll cover it.” If not, he says the agency will foot the bill.

The organization has had to hire private security before, including when safety concerns arose in some of the hotel lodgings the government has arranged for refugees and asylum seekers, he said. He acknowledged that fears about security may be a long-term problem for Ms. Mohammed. COSTI staff are working to inform her about the risks she faces. Additionally, they’re considering setting her up with a family, so she doesn’t have to live alone in Canada. “She feels safe because she knows she’s in a safe country. She sees the people around her have her best interests at heart, they’re trying to help her,” Mr. Calla said.

Though Ms. Mohammed’s case played out quickly, it isn’t the only one of its kind. COSTI sees an average of two, and sometimes up to five, urgent protection cases per year, Mr. Calla said. The federal government will expedite situations where loss of time may mean “dire consequences,” he explained, offering domestic violence-related cases as an example.

The teen isnÂ’t receiving any psychological support right now, but the agency plans to assess that need moving forward. Mr. Calla isnÂ’t aware of any direct contact from Ms. MohammedÂ’s family, nor the Saudi Arabian embassy, and couldnÂ’t confirm the authenticity of a family statement quoted by media outlets.

According to The Canadian Press, the head of Saudi Arabia’s state-controlled human rights commission was quoted in Saudi media on the weekend accusing Canada of meddling in the internal affairs of Mohammed’s family with the intent of vilifying Saudi Arabia. The Canadian Press quoted Mufleh Al-Qahtani, the head of the Saudi National Society for Human Rights, as saying Canada’s action was “an attack on the rights of the families of these girls, who are severely harmed by the defamation following their daughters’ action that pushes them into the unknown.”

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...mmed-says-she-wants-to-live-a-normal-private/
 

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Thats wrong. She always claimed that when she cut her hair she was locked up for 6 months and subjected to violence and threats of of being killed. https://www.cp24.com/news/saudi-teen-granted-asylum-in-canada-says-she-s-a-lucky-one-1.4253866 Turn to 1:00 min of that video and its all over her twitter. What you are reading below is her public statement that was translated on her twitter and is posted on post 85 above. It was a general public statement for her wishes to be left alone.

So we either trust her or think this was all contrived to get her into Canada and then have her settle and bring her family back. We can speculate all we want and think the worst in people. IDK I still have faith in people despite countless people who keep taking advantage of good deeds and the system, I have faith in her. I believe her.
You haven't lived enough. There is no hope for humanity. That's why we need a zombie apocalypse
 

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You haven't lived enough. There is no hope for humanity. That's why we need a zombie apocalypse
I think living through war, seeing some of my friends pass away due to war, being threatened with a gun 2ce by my uncles while suffering PTSD and seeing a very close family member pass away while in my care under excruciating pain and suffering is living a bit too much not to mention all the times close friends fucked me over, and working in a cemetery digging graves and lowering people into the hole to put myself through university might be considered living the real life. IDK maybe you lived more than this?

I honestly would’t care if the zombie apocalypse arrived. I’d sill have faith in people. Whats life if we don’t suffer? Whats the sweet without the sour? Sometimes I crave the pain just to feel alive lol
 

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Is Islam the only religion on earth where she has to fear for her safety if she denounces it, I'm guessing yes. Well maybe scientology, is that a religion?
 

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I don't know if Islam is the only one but I am sure persecution
by Muslims is one trick that will work to sucker our immigration
department. Actually a Muslim doesn't even have to denounce
his religion to be qualified for refugee status. He could just say
he was persecuted by radical Muslims. I remember one
case from some years ago wherein a Pakistan fleeing persecution
in his home country was granted asylum in the U.S. He later
reciprocated favours to his host country by throwing a bomb
to revenge the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq.
 

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Thats wrong. She always claimed that when she cut her hair she was locked up for 6 months and subjected to violence and threats of of being killed.....................
She probably spent all the time when locked up surfing the
internet learning about all the goodies in the western
world she had been denied and how gullible our
leaders can be. And when her parents let her out they must have
rewarded her with an generous allowance to fly to Thailand.
Her tweeted pictures show her flying first class, drinking wine
and eating caviar. That she must be from a filthy rich family
doesn't rule out the possibility that she was abused. But you
can be assured she enjoyed way more freedom than her
peers back in SA.
 

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Soon she will be bouncing at a club on king west and jumping from guy to guy. I personally don't believe her. I think she played the Canadian government and she's not as innocent as she seems. She probably wanted to ho around for a few years because this is what she sees from her contemporaries in the West online and her parents being very conservative said hell no. I've seen this before especially with Iranian women from families with some money (you know the princesses on Yonge from about Sheppard up to Richmond Hill) that come here and go nuts with their newfound freedoms doing drugs, booze, and again jumping from guy to guy. After a few years of that they get spit out and because no real man wants them they end up online dating on any of POF or eharmony. Sometimes because you have the freedom to do something does not mean you should go overboard. Partying will kill you in the long run if this is your go to leisure activity over a long time.

Hopefully, this girl proves me wrong but I severely doubt it. She seems a spoiled girl that ran away to rebel.
 

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Good summation and accurate about the Persian womens (in fact they run around with a chip on their shoulder).

Soon she will be bouncing at a club on king west and jumping from guy to guy. I personally don't believe her. I think she played the Canadian government and she's not as innocent as she seems. She probably wanted to ho around for a few years because this is what she sees from her contemporaries in the West online and her parents being very conservative said hell no. I've seen this before especially with Iranian women from families with some money (you know the princesses on Yonge from about Sheppard up to Richmond Hill) that come here and go nuts with their newfound freedoms doing drugs, booze, and again jumping from guy to guy. After a few years of that they get spit out and because no real man wants them they end up online dating on any of POF or eharmony. Sometimes because you have the freedom to do something does not mean you should go overboard. Partying will kill you in the long run if this is your go to leisure activity over a long time.

Hopefully, this girl proves me wrong but I severely doubt it. She seems a spoiled girl that ran away to rebel.
 

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Soon she will be bouncing at a club on king west and jumping from guy to guy. I personally don't believe her. I think she played the Canadian government and she's not as innocent as she seems. She probably wanted to ho around for a few years because this is what she sees from her contemporaries in the West online and her parents being very conservative said hell no. I've seen this before especially with Iranian women from families with some money (you know the princesses on Yonge from about Sheppard up to Richmond Hill) that come here and go nuts with their newfound freedoms doing drugs, booze, and again jumping from guy to guy. After a few years of that they get spit out and because no real man wants them they end up online dating on any of POF or eharmony. Sometimes because you have the freedom to do something does not mean you should go overboard. Partying will kill you in the long run if this is your go to leisure activity over a long time.

Hopefully, this girl proves me wrong but I severely doubt it. She seems a spoiled girl that ran away to rebel.
By seeking and being granted asylum in Canada she is free to explore her sexuality and freedom as all women in Canada are free to do just as long as she obeys the law of the land. I have encountered Persian women with the behaviour that you are alluding too but this young lady's situation is vastly different for many reasons.
 
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